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    M17x R4 - 1070 Black screen

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Crustieraxe01, May 20, 2020.

  1. Crustieraxe01

    Crustieraxe01 Notebook Consultant

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    I recently bought a brand new Asrock 1070 to give my old M17x r4 some new life. Only problem is that whenever I put in the new GPU, I just get a black screen with no backlight this is because I assume the vbios is not compatible. I have the 120hz 3D version of the display so that is not the issue. I also have done the following,

    - Full UEFI Environment
    - Set video setting to PEG
    - Reseated the graphics card
    - Cleared Cmos
    - Plugged a external monitor to it

    And nothing seems to work. I don't know if putting it to SG mode in the bios video setting will let me boot onto it, but I'm too scared to do that since I don't want to risk bricking my board and would want confirmation before setting it to SG. The current graphics card is a 660m which lets me run a pure UEFI environment and boot up normally to windows and bios allowing me to make any changes.

    Edit: besides all of this, my main question is if I will be able to run SG mode on the 120hz screen in order to boot up on the 1070 without bricking my bios

    Any help would be greatly appreciated
     
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  2. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Asrock card were never tested in any of the legacy alienware. Does it have a power connector on it?
     
  3. Crustieraxe01

    Crustieraxe01 Notebook Consultant

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    Yes it has a power connector. But this is optional though. Or so i think
     
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  4. 2CPU

    2CPU Notebook Evangelist

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    If you want a 1070 R4 I have mine up for sale.
     
  5. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Maybe it needs power,,, I have no experience with that model.

    Setting it to SG mode does not harm the card.
     
  6. Crustieraxe01

    Crustieraxe01 Notebook Consultant

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    Will it harm my bios and brick it? Because this is the 120hz panel and not the 60hz panel that has both video outputs
     
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  7. Crustieraxe01

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    How much?
     
  8. M18x-oldie

    M18x-oldie Notebook Evangelist

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    Please don't, not recommended to set SG mode on the 120 Hz screen, as far as I am informed the laptop won't POST anymore.
     
  9. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Would it revert back from SG mode if you pull the CMOS battery?
     
  10. Crustieraxe01

    Crustieraxe01 Notebook Consultant

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    I tried SG mode, but it would just revert back to PEG mode on the 660m. I didn't want to set it to SG mode on the 660m, save the setting, then pull out the battery and try the 1070 since I didn't want to risk the computer being stuck in SG mode.

    At the end of thr day, I ended up returning the Asrock 1070 in favor for the black PCB 1070 that sellers on ebay advertise that it works with the M17x r4. If anyone can confirm, that would be great

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Maxware79

    Maxware79 Alienware died in 2014

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    Yeah that one looks much better. I hadn't noticed the strange power connector on that other card. It must have been the issue.
     
  12. Crustieraxe01

    Crustieraxe01 Notebook Consultant

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    Yea it probably was a contributing factor although someone was able to get it working. Which 1070 do you have?
     
  13. Maxware79

    Maxware79 Alienware died in 2014

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    It looks to be the same as your picture but I'm not at home to check.
     
  14. Crustieraxe01

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    My only concern with this card would the vbios. I know for a fact that it is compatible with the M17x r4 since other sellers advertise it too, but will the vbios be compatible too? I know you had a unique case where yours had a mismatched vbios and was able to sort that out fairly easy by flashing a new vbios , but on the M14x R4 I would already need a vbios that is compatible to be able to even boot up
     
  15. Maxware79

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    Hard to know for sure but since they are selling the card as compatible with the M17x then it should have been tested as working. My guess is that it will work but you won't know until you plug it in. If you plug it in and it boots then check the vBIOS version using GPU-Z. You can look on TechPowerUp to see what subvendor is listed against the vBIOS.
     
  16. Crustieraxe01

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    I have been going back and forth with a seller trying to get information on the compatibility from him, and this one seems pretty compatible. He says that that card has a dell vbios, and that it is compatible. Only thing that seems off is the fact that he says "There may be a compatibility issue for 3xxxx series CPU according we know for install GTX1070M card, but 4xxxx or later CPU will be perfectly ,
    so i would not be advise to install gtx1070m card"

    Which doesn't make sense because the M17x r4 only supports 3rd gen ivy bridge processers up to the 3640XM

    Edit: I also asked him about the Vbios, and he stated it was a non-G-sync bios
     
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  17. Maxware79

    Maxware79 Alienware died in 2014

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    Yeah you should be all good. I'm confident.
     
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