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    M17x R4 A09 UEFI help

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by dadealus, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. dadealus

    dadealus Notebook Geek

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    I'm trying to perform a fresh UEFI install from media and my system is not showing any boot able media.

    I've got windows 8 install burned onto a DVD from an iso created by the windows 8 store app. I've also got the boot-able win8 usb stick (have tried with NTFS and Fat32)

    I've set the bios to UFEI

    I've tried toggleing
    Legacy support: Enable/Disable
    Secure Boot: Enable/Disable
    Windows 8 fast boot:Enable/Disable
    Add boot:First/Last/Auto

    Nothing seems to work anyone like to shed some light on this new A09 BIOS and UEFI options?
     
  2. leeshjnn

    leeshjnn Notebook Evangelist

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    How far were you able to go with the clean installation??? Did you format your HDD to GPT?
     
  3. dadealus

    dadealus Notebook Geek

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    with UFEI enabled and legacy support disabled. I am unable to boot off of any windows 8 media I try.
     
  4. leeshjnn

    leeshjnn Notebook Evangelist

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    Convert your HDD to GPT first. The laptop won't be able to install Windows on a non-GPT disk. When I switched the boot mode to UEFI, I have 2 options to boot the DVD reader, either under UEFI or Legacy. I was able to boot into Windows setup under UEFI perfectly until I got the message my HDD needed to be format to GPT. Try to enable to Legacy support.
     
  5. dadealus

    dadealus Notebook Geek

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    thats the thing.... I'm not even getting this far. I cant even boot into the windows setup. With the bios set to UEFI. it doesn't see the DVD drive or my USB drive. my only option is lan
     
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  7. dadealus

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    Ok now we are making progress!

    this worked I am now able to get into the windows 8 setup..... Now I have the problem of no hard drives showing up as available to erase and install.

    Is this a driver issue? or simply because these drives are not flagged for GPT?
     
  8. krazeaznboy

    krazeaznboy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Your windows 8 installation would be able to see your drive regardless if it is GPT or MBR formatted. You need to enable legacy support in your BIOS.
     
  9. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    only need to enable uefi en disable legacy boot.
    create a fat32 windows 8 usb install stick and boot that with boot menu and you will see that it shows as an uefi boot device, boot that device.
    when partitioning you see that you will get 3 partitions, boot / uefi and nfts.
     
  10. dadealus

    dadealus Notebook Geek

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    Ok to clarify steps and processes.

    1. you need to enable UEFI and Disable legacy.
    2. Enable windows Fast boot
    3. Disable secure boot
    4. either you need to follow the steps within the link above to create a UEFI usb boot or you need an actual UEFI formatted DVD.

    from here if you are running your SATA in ACHI you should be good to boot after this.

    IF YOU ARE RUNNING SATA IN RAID MODE YOU WILL NEED TO PRELOAD THE RAID DRIVERS FROM INTEL ONTO A USB.

    My problem with not seeing any drives was due to running SATA in RAID mode. once i supplied drivers to the windows setup it was able to see my drives.

    Once you have completed your Win8 install return to the bios and enable Secure boot.

    Fast boot will auto enable within win8

    my shutdown and startup times are now 5- 8 seconds(from button press to start menu icons).
     
  11. shinji257

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    Is that boot time with or without a SSD?
     
  12. Raidriar

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    The UEFI system is stupid. All drives must be in FAT32 to be readable, which I don't understand AT ALL, since native bios can pick up NTFS, HFS+, FAT32, and FAT.
    If you didn't install it as UEFI first, UEFI won't see it, and you can't boot.

    I couldn't last very long on windows 8, i absolutely hated it. same night, reformatted and went back to good old windows 7. I have a feeling this is going to be the case with most people without an arm or x86 enabled tablet. the interface is garbage for productivity.
     
  13. leeshjnn

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    That's exactly why I hold off my W8 upgrade. The day W8 is available, I came to this forum and saw a bunch of topics asking about W8 drivers. Man, I know immediately I need to put this upgrade on hold.
     
  14. shinji257

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    I went ahead and got the license while it was cheap. Doesn't mean I'm going to upgrade anytime soon but when I do I want everything to work.
     
  15. MickyD1234

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    Same here, got it while it's cheap but I think I'll hold of for a few months - especially as the only performance improvement (if that is what it is?) is this UEFI fast boot. And with that needing a complete reinstall it's not going to happen soon!
     
  16. Xenn0X

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    you do not need UEFI to run windows 8..
    it only shaves of a few secs of booting, thats it..
     
  17. shinji257

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    That's partially correct. The UEFI boot partition must be FAT32. The OS can be anything and it will be on a separate partition. Basically Windows 8 is doing it UEFI boot partition, System/Repair partition, OS partition in that order. It also ensures that all OS that do support UEFI will also be able to read the partition that must have the files for boot to start.

    You are somewhat right but some of us want to enable the Secure Boot stuff as it makes it much harder for bootkits or rootkits to impact the OS in any significant way.
     
  18. Xenn0X

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    99% of malware infected systems is user stupidity. no offence :)
     
  19. shinji257

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    I corrected myself above a bit. It won't stop malware. It stops infections that affect the bootloader which are rootkits and anyone that is trying to use a bootkit in the system but yes you are correct that most happen due to stupidity. Having worked in a computer repair department I know it can and will happen anyways.
     
  20. Xenn0X

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    i never had a fubar bootloader or any virus. but that requires like you some skills :) well since windows 98 i'm virus/mallware free. before that anti virus was crap too :)
     
  21. GQ Ukyo

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    Ah I was wondering how come mine couldn't find the OS. I had it on RAID for some reason. I didn't even RAID the drives, just separate SSD and HDD... too lazy to re-install windows and games...
     
  22. shinji257

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    Yea. The BIOS is set to RAID by default. It can revert back on future updates so watch for it just in case.
     
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    Can you provide these Raid drivers?
     
  24. LeWZ

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    That`s quite right! I was having the "not recognizing" ssd issue when trying to get uefi to work. I just enabled legacy support in the bios setup and after loading my pendrive flashed with windows 8 iso the ssd was found.

    Now the 8s boot load is working for me too!