M17x R4 Wishlist

I'm tempted to try and wait it out for a new laptop.. but then if I do, there'll be an R5 around the corner.

 

sata 6 Gb/s ssds
Light Weight Laptop
& smaller ac adapter (for the love of God Please)
Also include a usb port in ac adapter

 

What I would really like more than an R4 would be R3 gpu updates from Dell lol. For the R4, it would be cool if they future-proofed that sucker.

 

1. Better screen
2. Better keyboard (the current one IMO is below average). This is typing for a Thinpad keyboard which could be why.
3. Slightly better build quality (Similar to the m15x)

 

Allow users to disable iGPU if they can't provide latest drivers

 

even m17x r4 is NO match to all-powerfull R2 in gaming, and r4 dont even exist yet - end of thread

 

The R3 was never a R3 replacement, the M18x was. The R4 may see the return of the dual GPU. We shall see.

 

you really think they are just gonna drop the m18x??

 

I guess they will stick with m18x for a while, it is so recently introduced and I am sure produced in tons, what I want is a single GPU but gtx 680m come on people, I think mobility > power, why we have laptop after all!!

 

good point, but the power is a good thing to have, I still like having a machine that will smoke almost any other "gaming" laptop out

my list of things I think should included in the R4:
1. subwoofer like the rest of the its brothers. They all got one so why shouldn't the next m17x not have one.
2. would always be nice to have a higher res screen, especially with cards such as the 680m to being released soon.
3. would always be nice to run the HDMI from the bios instead of having to leave the laptop on, but its still a great feature none the less.

just a few things that I think would make the m17x series even more awesome than it already is

 

Definitely, power is good, but without control (erm, carry ) power is nothing

I would love to see SLI in m17x under 9.5 pounds, but I guess still impossible but if it happened, I would instantly buy it

 

I like single card systems more anyway, less driver issues and such

 

Jesus, it feels like I just got my R3 yesterday....... Now i'll be tempted to by another notebook...

My wallet just can't keep up with technology :/

 

I wouldn't buy R4 right away, we won't see gtx 680m for another 5-6 months I guess, just wait until next september, that's my plan, until then, I am with this baby (hopefully we will get the bios updates for new GPUs, fingers crossed )

 

One thing I was suprised from the R3 is that it's still a bios and not a UEFI! So wishlist for the R4 and the next to come is UEFI and that's about it, everything else is perfect imo

 

Except UEFI is way more limited to the end-user on adding mod hardware support to the laptop than BIOS. It is a reason why AW is holding on to BIOS when stuff like the Dell Precision M6600 has shifted to UEFI.

 

pretty sure there are UEFI options in the modded bios.

 

don't know what to add, because most of these guys already said what comes in my mind ( I mean that's what i'm thinking of ) :O

 

No there isn't. UEFI will show you a graphical interface of the BIOS and it is very restrictive unless someone knows how to crack it (which I haven't seen anyone do quite successfully yet).

For example, this is a UEFI Interface Dell uses on their Latitude and Precision models (Example is from a Precision M4600):

 

Just wondering, is a laptop uefi different than a desktop uefi? Because I can't make any sense as why would most new and top desktop motherboard have uefi instead of a regular bios if the uefi is more restrictive? All I can think right now is that the uefi compared to the bios is like the ssd's compared to the regular hdd. It's not a necessity to your pc but at some point (in the future, near or far) it will be obsolete in my opinion. But I might be totally wrong.

 

Well UEFI is faster than BIOS that it can feed more information regarding the motherboard by only needing the CPU to do all the checks first and stuff, unlike BIOS, which checks for a lot of things. With that said, UEFI on most desktop boards are designed so all the high-end customizing features are already there for you. However most OEM's can also use UEFI to lock down things that end users are forbidden to touch, especially on laptops. Therefore OEM's like Dell can totally not write in things like an accessible Whitelisting Table or Overclocking Functions by totally not writing it into the UEFI completely or mask it to a nature that it is hard to crack open.

Therefore it is a curse and a blessing. UEFI is better than BIOS but the idea of modding it as an end-user to unlock features and stuff is up to the mercy of the OEM as the OEM has also more control of what they want in the actual UEFI accessible or not and mask it where it is very hard for the end user to just download a tool and revert the process.

Hence why I want BIOS to stick longer under UEFI is around the customization levels of BIOS for the end user to an extent, especially with laptops.

UEFI goes way beyond just hex check editors and other small things that we take for granted with BIOS.

 

IS there going to be an R4 with the 18x out there ?

 

Well yeah seeing as the M18x is a dual CPU machine and the M14x is a soldered mid level one. Where does the single high end GPU go?

 

r4, right? I guess there will be an r4 and I hope there will also be a bios update, because dell is selling all these aftermarket products overpriced, it would be nice for them to harness more from us

EDIT: oh yes widezu I see your point right now, sorry kind of repeated what you said

 

-Ability to kill the iGPU in NV based M17R4's
-Alluminum top and bottom (perhaps along the side)
-illuminated ports (like the destops..they ouold simply make a LED rim)
-subwoofer...definetly
-smaller power brick+USB (as many here like)
-display similar or better than the R2
-optional 12cell (even the M17's can pull their own in terms of battery....but only outfitted with less cells)
-TV Tuners perhaps....it's got a big enough screen for a nicer antennae placement
-optional creative sound card software
*i believe the M17r3 does have sata 3, just poorly implemented...but sata3 all around, is it not?

I did repeat a few (if not all of the prev. suggestions) but i do believe an M17 of half these specs would make sales of a M18 a bit harder

 

I really don't know why everybody goes crazy about alluminum? it is going to be heavier right? I prefer a lighter powerhouse, something below 9lbs and still the same power would buy me over, I am a mobile gamer, I need the gaming device on my back and it should do be capable of running my codes too, so I need m17x-r3

 

Better build quality and durability. I rather trade an additional pound for something rock-solid chassis-wise.

Also SATA III is fully implimented in the R3 (Port 0 and Port 1) so why is it poor??? Also note that the problems regarding that affected I think m18x's.

 

The Sata problems affected both. Port0 was always temperamental when it came to maintaining Sata III speeds.

 

I think this built quality is just fine, I totally understand your point, but the aluminum is unnecessarily too much built quality for me, do we have anyone who takes care of their computer well enough but still having problems with the chassis of r3?

 

Hmmm... I guess that is one thing the Precision M6600 was good about. Both HDD Ports had SATA III reliably.

Yeah somewhat. Some people had a hard time putting the laptop in their bags without the zippers flaking off the soft-touch rubber.

 

Leather palm rest...
Easy CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM access (for replacement, pasting, cleaning...)
IPS panel (dreamcolor display , is it too much to ask)
Port covers (like little doors, the USB port on Samsung Galaxy S for example)
Manual FAN speed adjustment
Manual FAN reverse flow button (for self cleaning)
Remote control tucked in the Express slot (with the ability to turn on the laptop and shut down)
Better quality speakers (the Dynaudio speakers on my MSI GX660R was far better)
Better mouse pad with multi-touch (like the one in the their XPSes), but with the same un-invasive design
Better quality camera (use the optics from Nokia N8 if possible )
Better microphone

 

You mean PremierColor IPS. DreamColor is HP's own IPS technology.

 

I mean, borrow from HP the Dreamcolor display

 

Probably never going to happen. Besides PremierColor does the quality job.


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X-fire/SLI would be awesome, probably only think I am wishing for, love everything else

 

It seems like people are failing to understand that the M17x, from now on, will likely be a single card system. If you want SLI, get the 18x, that's what it was built for. Giving the m17x SLI would destroy the m18x's sales.

 

yepp, what I am waiting is a reduced weight and the single high end GPU setup, otherwise they will burn money on m18x

sorry geo but let's face reality

 

The M18x is too big and bulky.
I can just about handle the M17x R3 on my lap, though after a few hours I kinda loose feeling in my legs.

Anyhow, if it does stay single GPU (which 99% it will for solid reasons that have already been mentioned) then that'll keep me happy still. Because with a bios update (fingers crossed here) we will be able to upgrade to a 3920XM + 680M and that is wayyyy beast enough for me

I love how easy the M17x r3 is to upgrade, literally have access to everything after 2 screws. I am very happy with the rubber finish too, so probably, I don't really want to see an M17x R4 unless it is SLI/Xfire or we do not get a bios update

Who knows, maybe Dell might just stick with a slightly updated R3 model that houses Ivy bridge - it's not really a massive step-up from sandy

 

exactly especially if 4GB happens on 680m, then we can see some huge resolutions for external monitors too

 

I'm shuddering just thinking about how much this card is gonna cost

 

I want 1 card (the highest one possible) with extremely good cooling (heatpipes and heatsink should be enormous) so that the damn vent doesn't need to be on 99% of the time

 

3920XM in the R3 is not happening. Ivy laptops will be using a new chipset and socket.

 

Some desktop chipsets are backwards compatible with it, we'll just have to wait and see. Nothing is confirmed yet, only rumours.

Afaik they use the same socket and a bios update is the only way it'll work.

 

be patient padawans, we have to wait only about 2 and a half months (to find out)

 

will they have the Windows 8 upgarde Free like when Windows 7 came out ?

 

only for people who buy the laptop after a date dell decides, usually a few months before the OS is released i think.

 

Thanks you

 

Personally, I'd be happy with an R3 Ivy/Kepler refresh, with a chassis coating that doesn't peel off. (*cough* aluminium *cough*)

I've absolutely love a matte display, but with Alienware current trend being glossy glossy glossy, I don't think that's going to happen.

 

my dream laptop would be
1.up to date cpu
2.latest xfire+sli mobile gpus
3.decent ram
4.all the good stuff SSD(i just need 1 drive),blu ray,bluetooth etc...
5. "THE BIG GUN" i dream to myself...here it goes adding external PCI slots (capable with desktop gpus) along the sides on laptop (like placing down on laptop but far out enough so lid closes) these ports would blend with design and have closing cap. Now this would make your laptop a desktop when you want because youll be able to switch from mobile gpu xfire/sli to desktop power xfire/sli(thru a switchable function). xfire+sli for external slots will be built into motherbord so no cable required. Have a seprate psu for desktop cards (one that fits design and slick looking just for external gpu). This would prob. Be a $850 option(external slots+psu)

so yea basically have a gaming laptop on go and when being home able to just pull out desptop gpus and sit at living room on 60" hdtv relaxing destroying ppl on bf3 max at 160fps while using the ps4 and xbox720 as a stand for the beast.

 

Gigabyte's Booktop M2432 already does this. It's not available yet, but it will be later this year. I don't see Alienware going down this route, not when they have desktops to sell.