M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

LOL...

 

you must have never talked to someone from overseas..

 

You guys make me laugh. You want to talk about grammar... Do you ever listen to the news? Channel 9 reporters make so many major mistakes. How about major US blogs most written by Americans which have a mistake per sentence.

I am sure the Indians that go to school to learn English probably make less mistakes than us.

 

You must have super indians.. not that I was referring to indians specifically anyway =.='

The three I've spoken to have spoken well, but ocassionaly they have made mistakes, if you can call using litertal use of words mistakes.

 

ok and i will lose for just one day? i dont see how i will delay this for one day more. however i thought of cancelling the replacement just after one day if the CF 5870 comes out and ask for the repacement again. i hope this can be done and thats what i told to this guy.

 

well... no CF 5870s. I'm not expecting to see the CF5870 til june.

 

wurd up thug

 

i asked for one more day extension. this guy is pressed from above. i dont think i will get it.

qezep i really hope you dont lie man.

 

anyone from europe have any experinece with the dell credit payment plan ?

 

That's the information that I got. I don't know how accurate it is. He also didn't say it's not going to be available tomorrow just that he has been told that it should be available before the 7th.

I reckon that's a sufficient amount of a**-covering!

EDIT: Guess I can't say that

 

so its before 7th not 7th? be accurate man. i am playing with hours here.

 

Sorry, "available by 7th May". The post above was a direct copy and paste from the e-mail.

 

Ok - just as an amusing thing to ponder:

If the Nvidia DX11 chips show up before the 5870's would folks still wait for the 5870's? Curious because I am wondering if folks would take whatever comes first.

No word on USB 3 either which is a shame.

 

USB 3.0 is hardly a big deal. I personally couldn't care less about it. Maybe in 2 or 3 years I will, but certainly not any time soon.

I hope that May 7th estimate is correct, I want to get my hands on a pair of MR5870's ASAP.

 

I know many people on this forum have already said this but I'll remind you as well: Never trust a Dell rep regarding upcoming releases.

 

I just got off the phone with a Dell tech and they told me the A04 bios should be released today.

 

correct me if am wrong but this seems to be a reply from dell as department and not a reply of a rep by his own. thus qezep you got this from Dell IRL didnt you? the guy i am talking about is also in Dell IRL.

 

extra sign that something is going on. if 5870 CF doesnt work now then never. Thus Mandrake you have the gpus you need to test...

 

That was the bios my machine came with and it doesn't work. I want to see a write up on it.

 

There doesn't seem to be that many ATI/Nvidia "fanboys" here, some people prefer one but will take whatever is better at the time. I for one will take Nvidia if performance was equal since a fair amount of games are designed around their cards. That being said I'm looking to snag some 5870XF goodness since I don't have a lot of faith in the 480m based on the disappointing desktop version performance, but this is merely a preference and judgement call.

 

I'm confused. Mandrake are you testing dual 5870's? or just one? Because it would be strange that they would sell m17x's with single a 5870 but are releasing a bios that doesn't support it?

 

Just one. I ordered my system with 4870s.

 

Why wouldn't 1 5870 work in your system?

 

I agree. If we don't see the 5870CF within a week or two, I doubt we'll ever see them. The next CF/SLI for M17x will probably come out towards the end of the year.

 

I personally don't care. I'll go with which ever is more powerful at the time and of course does not cause DPC latency issues like the R1. I don't have a particular preference between ATI or Nvidia.

 

I already installed it. Had some issues with integrated graphics turning back on even though I turned it back off after the update, and the dedicated 280Ms disappearing for a few boots before the system finding them again, but I'm up and running on it. No difference that I can see, then again the changes in the update notes weren't even anything I'd ever heard of a problem with.

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You guys are trying to guess on something that has no sense whatsoever. The CF 5870 will come out but it seems there is some kind of shortage on cards and maybe some heat issue or driver issue to resolve before shipping them out.

The next SLI config will be with 480M which should be around September or maybe sooner who knows!!! We know the cards are coming in competing laptops in June.

AW has always been at the edge of technology and they will certainly not miss the opportunity to get the 5870 in crossfire.

 

Integrated graphics? R1 or R2?

 

R1.

This sentence is because the message was too damn short.

 

Don't flash the R2 BIOS on the R1 unless you want a new mobo replacement

 

hahahahahahaha

 

That makes no sense at all.

 

This is A04 for the R1 (I think). The checksum matched and it let me install it. Believe me, I was skeptical too. It's straight off the Dell site and I even entered my service tag to make sure it still came up in the supported updates. How do they differentiate between the R1 and R2 for updates?

 

It says M17x-R2 on the driver site

 

Here's where I grabbed it:

Drivers and Downloads

No mention of R1 or R2. Regardless, it's running fine for me on an R1. Maybe R2 shouldn't install it? Haha

 

m17x-R2 still has the A02 BIOS. The R1 just released the A04 today.

 

The BIOS A04 is for the M17X R1

 

I installed A04 on my R1 with no issues.

No 58xx support added lol

 

The R1 is EOL. I don't expect them to be adding any more support for anything to the R1 bios.

 

I have a Dell rep looking into the possibility of adding 5870 support to the R1. Not sure how soon there will be any news, though.

 

I am not waiting for that....Waiting for the NVIDIA update

but I have to admit 58xx CF option is tempting lol

 

he is right...they will come out... I bet it is supply or they are waiting for E3 to show off/market the CF. I found a good US rep on facebook. He said they should be out soon (would not say when)

 

Well, I would expect them to at least have the support for the 5870. AW sales those laptops as upgradeable in the future. It would be pure lying if they did not include support for a GPU that is just 9 months into the life cycle of a product.

 

i love how people say it's coming soon. soon = within 1 years time. it could be tomorrow it could be 1 year from now.

 

I still want to hear the new date that Joker knows.

 

Me too, but I understand the secrecy, some people kind of freaked out.

 

Most of us prefer not to wait 6-8months.

there's no heat issue. ATi rates the 5870's 5W less in TDP than the 4870s

AW's ususally on the trailing edge acutally. How long have other OEM's had a 5870 in their laptops? They've had a 5870 configurable in the M17x for less than 2 weeks and already eurocom has announced support and pre-orders for the 480GTX in their top of the line laptop, which has a bigger screen, more hard drives, and more ram space than the M17X.

 

so.. anyone know if the 5870s are 128bit? i know scook9 said it should perform almost like desktop 4870x2 but doesn't the 4870x2 perform better than the 5770?

 

The bus width is 128bit yes. It uses gddr5 ram however so it will run faster and as such have higher bandwidth than the gddr3 4870

 

anyone found out yet if it has a CF connector?