M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

Maybe someone in canada should call and ask for the CF option and see what's available.

 

it's your source, so I suppose you would know more than us. However, what he's telling you is in contradiction to every piece of evidence from AMD and previous use of crossfire in a 95% identical card so...

 

I didn't mean any offense to you. I just don't believe he is correct.

 

I don't buy the incompatibility issue either. There are no reasons for it.

 

Incompatibility? No, the problem is ATi's 3D matrix synthesizer for visual uncoupling has issues and they need to rework the faizian cores which requires a lot of time...honest.

 

While a small laptop is great and all I find that the screen and power limits my uses too much to make it worthwhile. I had a t400 thinkpad that was great, I loved everything about it but the screen resolution and lack of a full featured keyboard limited my working capabilities too much. That is why my mom has the thinkpad and Im back on my dell.

 

4870 history is of course against it. again i dont know what leaks behind incompatibility. this is the word that they used for the report when my CF 5870 order was cancelled. not to me as i got no answer of course but to him.

 

Hmm, I thought they fixed the faizian core issue.

 

i dont know what this thing is. as a simple user what i understand is that even ATI didnt test it in crossfire. i dont think it has to do with this machine specifically.

at least Dell didnt release it and then we discover this by ourselves.

 

Hmm, so it's not a supply issue as we thought but a technical one. That means no 5870CF for a while.

 

He's joking, there's no such thing.

 

Dude are you doubting the power and significance of the faizian cores in proper 3d matrix synthesizer uncoupling? It's no joke!

 

Don't be a buzzkill. Had at least two people going.

 

I felt sorry for them.

 

I agree, it must be because the Faizian cores run at 240hz where as the RGB samsung LED screens we have run at 60hz.. You have to create some kind of program to run it thought the unimatrix atom descrambler in order for an image to be projected on the screen ina 16x16 texture size that's required for directx 11. Otherwise=fail.

 

Joker sounded like he pulled that out of a Star Wars script.

 

He pulled it out of somewhere.

 

Lol, I can't belive I fell for it. I guess I'm not nerdy enough. At this point I'm willing to believe anything that people post regarding the cards.


On a separate note:

I don't think ATI would realease the gpu-s if they haven't tested them in CF. Here is a promotional slide from AMD showing some benchmarks using the 5870 in CF. I know it's an ad so the numbers might be off but it shows that the tests were done in CF. Who knows...

 

i think you are so pationate about CF 5870 ignoring the facts. you have to control this.

 

as you said promotional. i have seen this happening from an other company.

 

lol, not sure what that means, but ooook.

 

Joker that was awesome...but lacked the realism that a "flux capacitor" add in could have delivered.

 

lol almost had me going joker.
And for whoever wanted someone in Canada to call their rep, I did and nothing yet.

 

Did they say why they pulled the crossfire option? I guess a rep wouldn't know anyway. All they know, is what's on their screen.

 

That was their stand @ Cebit last year, see the asterisk saying see system specifications at the bottom? yeah, they had the computer there on show.
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=838

 

Most of us prefer optimism to pessimism. Theyre going to come out sooner or later. The m17x is a machine built for dual cards.

 

The problem right now is the release date keeps shifting. There is no incompatibility issue, I double checked that with someone that has a direct line with AW graphics engineers. I wasn't given a reason for the release date getting pushed back and/or missed. I was simply told to check back next week which I will. There is a tentative release date right now but the person did tell me it may not be solid so it would be pointless to mention it.

 

Best thing is prob wait for people with orders for single 5870s to start coming in so we can see if there is place for a xfire connector.

 

There won't be an xfire connector on those. Already asked about that. I'd be VERY surprised to learn otherwise. It's a waste of money getting a single 5870m right now unless that's all you plan to keep. Because those same people will have to sell off the 5870m (probably to many eager M15x owners) and then buy the 5870m crossfire kit--which simply isn't worth the price. If you guys want 5870s and plan to go for a dual system, WAIT.

 

are you waiting to pick up an m17x r2 5870 crossfire setup joker?

 

i hate to come true. thats why i preferred CF 4870 for now. they also have to buy secong gpu fan, second gpu with heatsink and crossfire cable. all from dell.

 

Sure am, that's why I sold my R2. I was initially expecting a 5/5 date like everyone else but the additional wait shouldn't be much longer hopefully. I'm in this waiting boat with the rest of you now.

 

Joker, welcome back to the waiting club

 

Its what I am waiting for!

 

How much is an 5870 xfire kit going to run? Do you know joker?

 

As long as they turn out to have crossfire 5870s rather than single cards ala Sager, and the spec actually turns up, I'd imagine going by AW's past rates, it'll cost at least £100 ($155ish) per card over what the 4870s cost.

 

They'll end up costing the same or a bit less than a 4870 Crossfire pair currently goes for from Dell.

 

Looks like the M17x finally has some real competition coming its way. The specs seem false/off but it will give us an early outlook on pricing.

Clevo x7200

I'm not sure there's any way to justify spending $500 more on the 480 SLI setup that will at the MOST optimistic provide a 30% performance gain (IMO probably only a solid 15% gain in realistic terms). That type of gain will be completely negligible on gaming terms since most games don't even utilize a second card.

IMO anyone laying down the dough for 5870's either in this new Clevo or the AW is a very wise and practical man.

 

I'll only disagree with the fact of most games not utilizing a second card. I have games that I can't even run at 1920x1200 with 280M SLI, and a few that won't go more than 1280x720 without severely hurting (with PhysX on, Mirror's Edge as an example). Dragon Age Origins had a few stutters at 1650x1050, and Awakening starts to stutter up a mofo in spots now that I have a bunch of the high-graphical-effect buffs up at all times. Before you say I'm having driver problems, I do not. Many of my games run solid 60FPS and my Vantage score is P12577 (10475/31597). I'm just saying some of the newest games really push these current mobile cards beyond their limits, even in SLI.

 

Yeah that was a contentious point. I think the stronger point was it's just not worth it to take the 480's over the SLI considering how much heat its gonna be throwing out in the 300w PSU's Clevo will use and the rumored 400W PSU AW will use. All the extra heat, the bigger frame needed and the huge $500 price increase from the 480's just not worth it to me.

 

I'd take it, but that's just me. Great workout with 30lbs in your backpack!

 

Desktop processor and dual gpu, nice. Now we just need word that is will have OC options in the bios.

 

Yeah I asked in the Clevo thread how a desktop 920 is possible in PSU terms to be paired with the 480's. Anyone know if that's even possible on a 300w? I guess it could be but you would see serious throttling or power draw issues.

 

300W is being conservative. Really should be called a desktop.

 

SLI PSUs!

 

Hmm that redesigned (x8100) x7200 looks Alienware-ish. Maybe we will get lucky and Alienware will rebrand it and we can buy it with complete care warranty. I'm not a fan of the 1080P 16:9 screen though.

 

Yeah thank the lord they fixed that terrible X8100 keyboard layout. Like Aikamox said it will be a very fun summer for a speculator like me to see the 17'+ AW vs Clevo renewed.

Also @ the last poster I am being patient... This Vaio is getting old and I have alot saved up. I'm hoping to see a move back to slimmer gaming notebooks from AW. Maybe release a complimentary single GPU 17' in the fashion the W870CU is to the X8100. Unfortunately it seems like they are only going to get bigger so I may lose my patience afterall

 

They could make a thin 17" notebook if they used AMD's XGP. Unfortunately that hasn't really taken off yet. Maybe with USB 3.0 it will gain more acceptance. I would love to have a 1" thick 17" fully aluminum notebook (e.g. like the MBP) with an XGP port. In fact, if Apple incorporated one into their 17" MBP line, I'd be posting in the Apple forum right now.


Edit: 5870m XGP on an Acer Ferrari

 

The he** with that.A *real* Nvidia GTX480 or ATi5970 in my laptop *and* nearly future proof support with a PCI-E 2.0 connector? yes please!

 

All respect would be lost.