M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

Yep you can always flash it back. I am eager to know also.

Thanks.

 

I don't think the Clevo bios would work. It wasn't designed with Crossfire in mind. More than likely it'll just brick the cards.

 

That is what I was referring too, brave because there is the risk of bricking your cards and AW being able to see a foreign BIOS when it is sent in (although that is giving them ALOT of credit when testing machines lol - doubtful they are that thorough)

 

yes if the bios has been changed (and if you can't flash back to old bios) the warranty'll be void.
My cards don't likes OC (if i try 590-890---> BSOD i'm limited to 580-880) but i already crashed a card with a bad flash and i won't try it again.

 

my turbo is going berserk it clockes all four cores to over 3ghz, and keep it there a scond or two then down to 2ghz and repeat.
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hwinfo32 doesn't properly display your CPU frequency with Core-i processors. Try this Intel Turbo Boost technology, monitoring CPU Multiplier for Intel i5 and i7 CPUs using Argus Monitor

 

and i'we tryed bfbc2 some more,i installed crossfire application profile, and it runs smooth at 2560*1600 low, gonna try some more, and on a other note, for those who are first time buyers of this rig, if you don't have/want a nootebook cooler, you can just raise the back end a little from the surface it's on (i used a piece of wood) it works veary well(atleast i think so)

 

thanks it's a very good soft better than hwmonitor32.

 

Nah, Argus isn't free and in addition HWinfo32 gives a lot more information about your system. If you're not benching and OC'ing - core frequencies is the last thing you wanna know.

 

but it still give people a false sense of cpu frequency

 

Im a owner to a m17x R1 with a single 4870. Have had a lot of problem with it so they are giving me a new system so my question is what should i go for.. Ive read alot of bad things here about 5870s, but because i dont have cf should i go for the 4870s or 5870s.. Alot of people seems to be upgrading their systems from 4870 to 5870 and then perhaps the poor performace increase aint worth the money?? But i dont have cf so everything is better than a single card but i just dont want cards that behave strange or bad. I just wonder what you guys think i should choose. Also 4 or 6 gb ram?? And also im sorry if im writing this wrong but i dont write here so often. But im a big reader here. Thanks for a very good forum.

This is my new config. I7 720, CF 5870, single 500 gb hdd(SSD later on) 4 or 6 gb 1333mhz ram memory??, 1920/1200 LED, blue ray- dvd, 3 year warrenty

 

Not even Argus displays correct multi. In idle it says 6x, but correct is 8x (seems to be similar to T-Mon??)

 

Ask for a single 5870.

 

A single card probably should behave better but as many people are saying( or not are saing) Dell have to release a new bios or something to fix it?? I have to pay the same price for 4870cf as for 5870cf. And if the card will perform as good( or bad) the 4870s i still have the DX11 . Alot of people have been quite satisfied with their 4870s.. And im sorry if i sound a bit stupid , but 5870 in cf is still 5870 in cf . I just wonder if you dont compare the performence with those two cards, do 5870 in cf perform good or bad in games??

 

Joker has a comparison up on you tube 4870s in cf bs 5870s in cf

 

Argus reports 9x for my 920XM at idle (same as HWInfo32).

Mumak, I use and love HWInfo32 and am very thankful for it and the ongoing efforts to improve it, but you got to admit those CPU frequency readouts are still a little flaky, jumping from step-down idle to max clocks continuously with no change in input.

 

Hi Everyone,

Im playing crysis and i notice that sometimes the GPU0 is engaged with %utilization and other times its not. Like sometimes the GPU's arent using crossfire...

So i figured 3 scenarios are going on...

1) Dell drivers for the 5870's dont have a crysis profile...[not likely, as stated sometimes the gpu0 engages....acording to HWinfo32 and gpuz...

2) I have a bad set of 5870s

3) the programs that are doing the reporting are bad...

On another note, i cant get 10.5 drivers loaded so im back to dell original...

I contacted tech support and they saw the behavior and wanted to send either a replacement set of cards or an exchange. After discussing it with him i asked for a return...

what do you all think? did i do the right thing?

is there some issue with crysis that is causing this and is fixable?

 

I'm curious, what CCC settings did you use when you did your benchmarks with the 5870's. Did you use balanced settings, quality, or performance?

 

I'm interested as well

 

What was the part number for the cross-fire 5870s? Also what was the part number for the new Orion messenger bag that just came out?

 

Here you go

 

So i just ordered my m17x from AW and was wondering if im just confused and stupid or if anybody else noticed....the CrossfireX™ 1GB ATI Radeon™ Mobility HD 5870 is just a single card correct? this option doesn't mean there are dual 5870s in a crossfire configuration right? just need to know....this has been bugging me really bad.....why pay 375 more if they aren't putting another 5870 in the system???

 

crossfireX means there are 2 1gb 5870 graphic cards.

 

Crossfire refers to 2 physical cards. That's why the price is higher. There's an extra card there. And a giant power adapter

 

I mention in the video that I used high quality settings in the CCC.

 

Maybe that's why the Vantage and 3d Mark scores weren't that impressive. Running them at the default "Balanced" setting would probably give a better indication of how the 5870's perform over all.

 

No for vantage i ran everything in performance. High quality was used strictly for game benchmarks. The point of using high quality is to see the difference between the cards and minimize the CPU's influence in the overall result.

 

Yes, I'm aware of this. I tried to explain why this happens, pros and cons of other solutions and I'm still looking how to fix it.

 

My name seems oddly poetic in regards to these cards...

 

Crossfire refers to 2 physical cards. That's why the price is higher. There's an extra card there. And a giant power adapter - thats what i thought.....just the wording on the US site didn't state dual but just xfire....and the dell reps say that its just a one card configuration......lol anyway thanks guys thats a relief 2gb of gddr5 memory.....can't wait for it.....suppose to be shipped 6/15

 

don't want to break your hope but in crossfire (in sli too) you don't use the ram of both cards only one so you will have 1GO ddr5 but it's much than necessary.

 

That may apply to mobility multi-gpu setups, but I can guarantee you it doesn't apply to the desktop crossfire/sli. It DOES apply to multi-GPU (SINGLE BOARD) cards [GTX295, 5970, etc] because they share the same memory. Thus they will share the same bus, obviously. However, in true SLi on a desktop you get the full benefit of the ram and its bus on each card.

 

Actually akluin is half right. The mobile versions and the desktop versions both behave the same way with memory. They may both have 1GB of vram, but two cards together with 1GB each does not add up to 2GB's the way the other guy thinks. Nor do both cards share the 1GB of ram from the master card. The data stored on both 1GB's on each card is mirrored. Each 1GB contains exactly the same data as the other 1GB, and the data is fed to the GPU's at alternating frames. One GPU takes a frame from it's vram, the other GPU takes a frame from it's vram. Basically it's as if both cards are reading data from only 1 full GB of vram.

 

Doh! I misunderstood what was being said. I read it as only gaining benefit of the "master" card.

 

no it's me i didn't explain very well but try a burn test you will see there is only one ram be warmer.

 

Play a game instead. You'll see both ram's get hot, because both are being used. My previous post explains it pretty well I think, even though it's a hard thing to explain.

 

If you guys think Argus does not display the correct multiplicators please let us know. We use the recommended algorithm from Intel for calculating the frequency, but are not able to test this on every different processor out there.
Please post a screenshot from the multiplicators if you think they are not correct together with the cpu model.
Thanks,
ArgusM

 

i'we sendt a request for return mail to dell, and are going to return my m17x, becouse nr1 it's not worth the money, nr2 it's not powerfull enough and nr3 it's buggy. i hoped this was the laptop for me, but i was wrong

 

Maybe what u need is just a new BIOS or driver update to meet your expectation.

 

not when my expectation's are playing games @ 2560*1600 with descent graffic levels(medium atleast)

 

I see, if that's your exception, u should not even consider M17x at the beginning. Maybe go for a x7200 in the following months GOOD LUCK

 

Or a desktop.

 

i wanted a desktop replacement (much easier when on the go) that was capable of 1600p gaming, something i now realize is not possible without dropping all "details" down to low. i guess i'll have to build myself another stationary :/

 

that is always a default and premier option. But that friend is looking for a desktop replacement i guess.

Hey Joker, this is my first time purchasing an AW laptop. i already made the order. Is 5870CF really that bad in you opinion? the powerfulness due to driver (maybe), the flicking in WOW and other problems make it looks so buggy. In your conclusion, 10% more than 4870CF is powerful enough for me. So what is your suggestion, should i keep it or return. Here in AU 5870CF was cheaper than 4870CF before and 4870CF is not available.
do u think a new BIOS or video card driver could solve most of those annoying problems? Did u report the current issues to ur engineer friend? because i think if they notice those problem, maybe they will work out a solution faster.

 

You should have done some research on the mobile GPU offerings before you bought it.

 

The 5870XF using dell drivers exclusively is no accident. Telling the Dell engineer would do no good because they know all about it. If you're buying a new M17x, the dual 5870s are the way to go despite the driver restrictions. Upgrading from an R2 with 4870s is not worth it.

 

Thank u. Glad to hear these from u, it gives me a reason to keep waiting and enjoy my up coming laptop. Do u mean the reason people having flicking problem in WOW is because of the non stock driver? hope i can join u AW owners soon.

 

Does anyone know what the desktop equivalent video card is to a single 5870? Dual 5870s?

 

A single MR5870 is around a 5750/5770.

 

GTX 480M is less powerful than desktop GTX 465 which is less powerful than a desktop 5850. Therefore i do not think we could name any mobile card (even in SLI or CF) which is equivalent to a desktop 5870 for now at least.