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    M17xR3 HARD DRIVE heating up near GPU

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by ll_r1d0_ll, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. ll_r1d0_ll

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    i have been running into this problem from the last 2-3 months and tried alot to make it better but couldnt ...i upgraded my gpu from gtx580m to gtx780m and even undervolted my gpu thinking that it could be the problem but at the end it didnt helped ...while browsing or using normally it does not gives me any issues but while gaming more than an hour or two, the hard drive which is near the GPU heats up to around 92-93 degrees and it happened to me twice that the whole system froze and hard drive starting giving beeps(which returned to normal after i let the laptop cool down)..I have uploaded the images of the area where i have suspected alot of HEAT...i have even tried new THERMAL PADS but still they didnt helped me :( so is there anyone who has also come over with this problem ? any help would be really appreciated thanks ...
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  2. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Wow, that is really hot! Those drives are only rated up to 60C or so, so I would be careful. Is the drive touching the heatsink at all?
     
  3. ll_r1d0_ll

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    nope not at all...i've checked that twice or thrice so i can confirm that it is not touching ...i guess there is something that is heating up the GPU in the circled AREA and is causing the hard drive to heat up too ...i might be wrong too..but just sharing what i can see
     
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    Anyone?????
     
  5. MahmoudDewy

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    When the GPU core temp is mid 70s, there is no way that it would bring an adjacent HDD temp to mid 90s. I had a GTX880m before that used to operate in low 80s range and the HDD next to it never went above 60 degrees.

    So there are 2 scenarios here, first one is that thermal sensor on your HDD has some problem. Second one is that the whole HDD is failing.

    HDDs can easily be removed and installed in any other machine to be tested in a new environment.

    I would recommend that you remove it, install it in another machine and test it through copying like 20-30 gigs of data to it to stress it as much as you can.

    I would also recommend that you backup all your data before attempting to do anything related to your HDD.
     
  6. ll_r1d0_ll

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    hi thanks alot for your suggestion, well as i am having 2 HDDs in the laptop' i tried switching their places and the hard drive which was nearest to the GPU heated everytime. Well its not actually the HDD which is heating, it is actually the GPU which is heating up and causing the Hard drive closest to it heat up too along with it ...i have already highlighted the area from where the GPU is heating.I tried replacing the thermal pads and even increased their height from 1mm to 2mm but still the problem didn't solved :( seems like the mosfets or the 3 Big inductors are heating alot...:/
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    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Do you have thermal pads/gum on those components on the GPU board close to the HDD?
     
  8. MahmoudDewy

    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    Make sure the thermal pads on MOSFETs aren't touching the chassis. Actually this is one trick I am doing to help cool the MOSFETs, I let themal pads touch both heatsink and chassis but I don't have a HDD in this bay as I keep it empty for extra airflow to the GPU.
     
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    yes i have even tried to increase the size of the thermal pads on those components but it didnt helped
     
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    i have doubled check that and can confirm that it is not touching anything :( ...i guess i will end up with removing that HDD and use single one :( but that heat from those components on the gpu might shorten its life span...well im out of clues now on what to do with it
     
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    increasing size of thermal pads is never a good idea ... too thick pads would ruin the heatsink contact with the die and could actually be one of the reason you are having problems.
     
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    i was using 1mm in the start...will try 0.5mm now and will update you guys :)
     
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    Hi there, had the same problem with my AW17 R5 when i repasted my GPU. My new thermal pads was 1.5mm-2.0mm and the heat from the GPU leached into the Hard Drive beside it (GPU Temp was 70C while my SSD would heat up to about 55-60C. I posted about it also here on NBR and one member told me that's it's the GPU's fault, once that GPU heats up to 70Deg C it would also heat up the surrounding area. my solution was I repasted again my GPU using Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut to lower the GPU temp and lowered my thermal pads to 1.0mm using Fujipoly Ultra. It solved my problem. With Ultra settings on Ghost Recon Wildlands and ME Andromeda I only get 65-70C on my GPU and 50-55C on my hard drive (SSD I mean).

    Laptop Info:
    AW 17 R5
    Gtx 880M
    SSD Samsung 850 Pro 1TB


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    hi, thanks for your reply .. yesterday i opened up my laptop and lowered the pads from 1.0mm to 0.5mm and got a huge drop of 10 degrees ..while gaming at ultra settings in dota 2 i used to get 91-92 degrees but now i get 81-82 max...as in my country there is no fujipoly ultra etc pads i have to use some unknown brands of pads for the chips :( but i am using GC EXTREME for the CORE
     
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