M17xR5 with Quadro P4000M

Hello.

As stated in the thread title, I've got an M17xR5 (2014) with stock parts, the GPU is currently a GTX 765M, and I've got my eyes on a dirt cheap P4000 Mobile. The question is, will it work? Are there any hiccups with that config?

 

Quite a few gpu's work under SG mode, not sure how it will react in peg mode though.

 

120HZ or 60HZ?
I'd assume it'd "work" in both configs, but as to driver mods I'd have no clue.

 

I'm interesting in your upgrade as well.

 

Will keep you posted, the card arrives today/tomorrow, after Win10 upgrade (it's Win7 right now, and all the necessary tweaks (BIOS and so on) I will attempt to get it to run.

As far as I know this is the 60Hz 900p screen.

Wish me luck

 

It will not work in PEG, only SG/Optimus.

 

Ok, quite a pickle here, I've spent last couple of hours switching back and forth between different video cards and I can't get it to run anything but the default GTX 765M. Tried Quadro M4000M, Firepro M6100, both of them worked in my M15x, but here I only get eight beeps. I've got different thermopad layouts for both, that's why it was so painstakinly long. Don't have the P4000M yet. The BIOS is updated to A16, maybe that's the problem? Can anyone guide me to any other compatible BIOS that can support it? I didn't want to brick it with a newer one that may not be supported.

 

M6100 only works under SG mode

 

Ok. Then what am I missing? How do I switch between PEG and SG? Everyone says it's from the bios level but I don't seem to have that option.

EDIT: managed that, I've read about enabling SG in bios, but in Win10 I could only switch via the Fn+F5 option.

EDIT2: Does anybony know the code for M17xR5 to modify the driver?

 

Doesn't matter if it's win10 or not but pascal does seem to prevent sbios access.

 

The problem is that official NVIDIA drivers won't budge, it states that the windows version is not compatible with the driver and it shuts off. For now I'm trying to get M4000M to run, no luck so far.

 

To set SG via the BIOS you would need an unlocked one.

The "Hardware-ID", necessary to mod the driver, can be found under the device manger, right click on the graphics card, usually it is "Microsoft Standard Display Adapter", or something like this. Then go to "Details" --> "Property".

 

So... after a little more struggling it seems that the machine doesn't recognize any other discrete card but the stock GTX 765M. Can anybody post the relevant nvdmi or whatever the file is called in this iteration? Every driver I've tried (for the M3000M and M4000M) says Windows version not compatible either/or No relevant hardware found, with the second message being far more prevailent.

Got the BIOS unlocked (A16+) and even returned to factory settings (after a little tinkering in the BIOS it decided that I don't have a boot sector, after default RAID0 - which wasn't the case - was changed to AHCI ^^' )

It is set in SG mode, but all I get is Default Microsoft Display.

 

Give us a screen shot on the gpu device info.

 

Details for Quadro M3000M.

Taken from Device Manager:

Device PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13FA&SUBSYS_05AA1028&REV_A1\4&d590a51&0&0008 had a problem starting.

Driver Name: display.inf
Class Guid: {4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Service: BasicDisplay
Lower Filters:
Upper Filters:
Problem: 0x1F
Problem Status: 0xC01E0438

Let me know what other detailed info you may require.

 

Finally! My P4000M has arrived, as well as the 3D screen (full HD 120Hz instead of the 900p 60Hz it had), so now it's time to finally get working. Will keep you posted on the process

 

As usual a problem occurs - need to switch from LVDS to eDP, so I need a cable for that... Anyone knows where to get it for cheap? Except AliExpress and others?
Or if any other model of the cable will fit? Got my eyes on Dell XPS cable, but not sure about dimensions

 

here

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-VAS00-...re-17-Ranger-17X-M17X-R5-Laptop-/323673881460

 

Anything in Europe? Almost 70 bucks with shipping is kind of an overkill :/ if nothing shows up I guess I'll order this one though. I'm still waiting for a supplier here in Poland that said it may be available on Tuesday.

Anybody knows if a cable from other Dell laptop is long enough to support it?

 

it is supposed to work as long as the connector and every single thing is same as original DELL ones... I Have repalced many LVDS cables and all of them worked ..never made me search for original one ... just some 3rd party cable makers

 

Btw Aliexpress has never disappointed me in any case so if u ever think of trying it you can get it way much cheaper than any other website

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32846417675.html

 

I know that same parts, specs and part number will fit, what I'm trying to get at is - is it possible for an eDP cable from, say, Latitude or Precision or XPS with different part number to be used. If there is a part that has the same or similar strip length and connector layout suitable for this one. If not, then I will just order the one from eBay. When it comes to this sort of electronics where I need to get the machine to be reliable I ain't gonna buy something that was most likely dug up from a trash heap and resold.

 

have never done anything like this before but might work as the wiring scheme for LCDs are same everywhere except the aditional CAMERA MIC FLEX

 

Ok, got the screen, got the cable, ready to assemble, but first we're back to the issue nobody has answered to yet - modded .inf for Quadro P4000. Can anyone provide a compatible .inf? Cant get it out now due to the fact that the machine is in parts...

 

i heard that one of a guy installed QUADRO without modifying any INF file...so just give it a go and if it doesnt installs do let us know we will modify that file for you

 

As soon as I put it back together (which is going to be most likely Sunday evening) I will attempt that. Haven't had a chance to put it together yet. What order should I do it? Install P4000 then the screen, or put in both, or first the screen and then the card?

 

i would recommend to UNINSTALL old NVIDIA Drivers using DDU then go to bios and set the display to PEG and then disassemble ur laptop and install new screen and assemble it back and try to boot it with old gpu gtx 765m first ..PEG is necessary for 120 HZ Display ...if the display shows just install the new card..Good LucK

 

If needed I have 2 or 3 different P4000 vbios, for the inf mod, you should read this : http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0-owners-thread.820539/page-254#post-10937563

 

Soooo.... It took a while, I got the 120Hz screen running, it's a beauty, also while swapping stuff I switched the GPU to 4910QM, But when it comes to P4000M all I get is 8 beeps. Any ideas? I've switched BIOS to SG, but no luck so far.

 

You cannot use the 120HZ screen with SG regardless of what dGPU is being used, the iGPU is not wired to the internal eDP port and thus cannot display an image.

 

Ok, so what are my options? I've tried so far 765M and with PEG it worked. No matter the option on P4000M, all I get is 8 beeps. Could it be vBIOS?

 

Furthermore, I am not sure what is the problem, but it also doesn't recognize Radeon 8970M, Radeon 6990M (although it might be because it's a bit bust), and with Quadro P4000M it won't start. Also, when I've changed the refresh rate to 120Hz (which it should've supported) the sceen went blank. While rebooting, right after showing Win10 logo and I presume switching to 120Hz it would also go blank, but the system still works, I can hear it responding. Any ideas?

 

AMD Cards do not work at 120HZ in MXM Alienwares do to some weird incompatibility.

 

Ok, that explains a few things, but still why the P4000M ain't running and why do I get no image when switching to 120Hz on 765M?

 

Going to attempt a vbios flash this week with the one found in one of the threads. I gotta go to a service point to do so, hence the question - where can one get an external MXM port? I've seen risers, but I don't need to plug it into PCIe, don't have a full sized pc nowadays anyway, just for home vBIOS flashing?

 

Flash with spi flasher

 

Put everything in UEFI mode, pre-install Nvidia drivers modded for P4000, and wait until windows initialise the card.
I was able to use my P4000 in my M6700 with every P4000 vbios I got, even desktop vbios, only one vbios could display something before windows initialise the card, it even work with P5000 vbios. I flashed the vbios on the card, then I let it boot to windows (with black screen at first) and when windows initialized the card it work like a charm.
P4000 mxm vbios that work in my M6700 :
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...o-p5200m-and-gtx-1070m-on-m6700.827595/page-4
you should not try other P4000 vbios

KEEP IN MIND THAT PASCAL EEPROM ARE 1,8V, be careful with your spi flasher, use CH341A with 1,8 adapter

 

Thank you for the quick response. An SPI flasher is already in the mail, will report how it goes.

Thanks, as soon as I've read it I've ordered an adapter. Should be here next week. Will keep you all posted. Thaks for support!

 

Quick question - does the AW 17 R2 touchpanel fit in the Ranger? Mine is a bit scratched and I'm considering replacement. Are they interchangable?

 

The LCD itself? Check panelook for dimensions.

 

Dam autocorrect. What I meant was the touchpad, as in the built in mouse.

 

Got back from delegation, in the meantime the darn cable came in (in my excitement I've ordered the CH341Apro, the 1,8V adapter, but not the clamp ) I've put the vBIOS from @TheQuentincc , tested it immediately, but still, only 8 beeps. Probably tomorrow will attempt to set up the UEFI mode on everything to fullfill all the requirements. Wish me luck

 

In case it doesn't work you are not loosing to much except heat/power consumption and less than 15% in performance by using a 980M instead of the P4000, or if you really want to use this P4000 for "cheap", buy a Precision M6700

 

Ok, another snafu - the InsydeH2O BIOS doesn't recognize any boot options apart from IPv4 and IPv6 boots, despite me converting the SSD to GPT. Any ideas? I can create new boot options, but nothing can be adjusted there. Plz halp.

 

you need to install an OS in uefi mode before booting on it (put bios in uefi then boot on your uefi usb windows installer then install windows)
Or you could use a bootloader like clover on a usb key to boot on your legacy windows

 

I've used a tool to convert the boot sequence to GPT without reinstalling. Since the Windows I've got is not fully loaded I'll resort to full reinstall with UEFI by design.

 

Concerning the touchpad, for future reference, it seems that the 17 R1, R2 and at least 18 R1 use the same proprietary touchpad. Got a nice clean one working fine.

Right now, as in at this moment, I'm warring again with it. Just reinstalled Win10 in full UEFI, downloading Nvidia drivers and after that I'll try to initialise the P4000M. Fingers crossed.

 

And, ladies and gentlemen, we're in business! Just got it to boot. It turns out there was a problem with a dirty pin on the IC, as after flashing around half of the contents were just FF values. I didn't check after flashing, so I was basically using a bricked card and wondered what went wrong. @TheQuentincc 's contribution cannot go unnoticed. His vBIOS is THA WAE.

However the driver wasn't so straightforward. Right now I'm attempting to load Dell Precision Drivers for P4000, but I don't hve too high hopes. Could anyone make an adjustment to the Nvidia Driver .inf file for any possible version? Here are the details from Unrecognized 3D adapter:

Device PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB7&SUBSYS_05AE1028&REV_A1\4&d590a51&0&0008 was configured.
Driver Name: null
Class Guid: {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
Driver Date:
Driver Version:
Driver Provider:
Driver Section:
Driver Rank: 0x0
Matching Device Id:
Outranked Drivers:
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0C01&SUBSYS_05AA1028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&08

EDIT: As it was to be expected, the Dell Precision Drivers were a bust. Need an .INF file...

 

post a gpu-z screenshot and the nvdmi.inf of the nvidia drivers please

 

That's the issue - gpu-z isn't showing anything. As in only blank fields ...