MX17 R4 675m upgrade 880m test problem

Hey guys, sorry by advance if my language is not perfect.
I upgrade 880m in my MX17 R4 last night.I follow the steps to fix the inf and install the drivers. Every time I run install program, i can only install the driver but not the Geforce experience and Phyx.

When I ran 3dmark11 test. the result is very bad. I test many drivers include 344.11 337.88 and 332.25(from eurocom) same issue happens.

Currently I use 240v adapter(ga240pe1-00) bios version:80.04.e9.00.02

Can anyone help me???

 

modded bios needed i think.. plus may be there is not enough juice..

 

You mean vbios or unlock a11 bios?

 

Here is some pic of stress test

 

Yup somethings wrong with the GPU... Look at the core clock.. Its only 135MHz.. I think you should try the following.. Runner DDU utility and uninstall all the drivers... Look on this forum and install the modded INF drivers... J95 is a good person to ask about this.. You need to google a bit more.. Your issue is solvable..

 

Hi there yes you need an unlocked bios to set PEG and one other option I believe - research needed. The only exception to this is the 120hz 3D model. If you have that you don't need it.

Make sure your pSU is a 240 W output (19.5v x 12.3A) one. Without this the card will never achieve full speed.

I'd say, ignore all the CPU stuff for the moment and focus on the GPU. The speed you are seeing in the screenie is the normal slow speed in windows. It should step up once you try to game.

Just watch your GPU clock speed, temp and fps using msiafterburner in-game. This can put the stats on-screen in your game.

Good benchmark is Heaven 4 since it focuses on real-world gaming performance.

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Both true, you may need an unlocked BIOS to set the video card to discrete only and a big 240W PSU. Make sure you are constantly monitoring the temps because the heatsink may not be able to dissipate heat properly.

 

Thanks for reply !!
I don't have Heaven 4...But I run a benchmark in ShadowOfMordor. I use both 240W and 330W PSU and the result is no difference..
I'll try unlock bios tonight...and what should I set in the bios after unlock?

 

Dual mode... MX17 R4 675m upgrade 880m test problem

 

It looks like you are throttling and not getting full clock. The temps are way too low as well. Looking at the pic it seems the gpu and memory clock are briefly at full speed and then throttle down as soon as the load increases.

What you need to be able to see is the clock speed while it is gaming. I would expect a number in the 800~900mhz range but I have no idea of the 880m's base clock. Using msiafterburner you can set the things to show on-screen in the monitoring tab under settings.

All I know in the bios is the PEG option to be set on, but there is one other setting I am unsure of. Just a reminder though, if you have a 120hz 3D display this will brick your machine (will not start at all!) so do not play with the bios.

Throttling is a known issue with the 880m but this looks like something else?? Hopefully it's just another problem caused by not setting the bios to PEG?

Edit, I just saw j95's post. It's all in there, he is the man on this stuff

 

I know this is a slightly irrelevant question but let's say I want to upgrade from my 7970M to a 980M.. Will I need a new NVIDIA heatsink or will I be able to reuse my AMD one as both are 100W ones?

 

Thanks MickyD1234!!
I'm using 60hz no 3d screen and after i set peg only in bios, the problem still there.
I still can't get full gpu core clock when running the test or benchmark. Also the temperature is pretty low too. ..
Is any chance the gpu itself have some problem?

 

Hi, on past attempts at this it is usually the case that they can be made to work. You just need to get the x-bracket with the card and the captive screws that hold the heatsink down are a different size. Fiddly to remove and might be a challenge to source? easiest is to get a new heatsink though when dell release the card. That way you get all the pads in-place ready to assemble and no question of fit.

Could be but is there is still an option in the bios to change? J95's link has this along with a driver and inf: 'BIOS settings, F2 -> disable the integrated graphics - Second Advanced Menu -> Video Configuration -> disable IGP -> set display to PEG -> F10 reboot.' but I'm remembering one other potential setting, I just can't remember what it was. A three letter acronym is all I can remember . @Robbo, was it you that told me about this curious setting? I thought you had got it wrong but you corrected me!

If that does not get full clock then I can only suggest a complete driver clear out using DDU ( Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) 13.4.1.0) and reinstall a fresh driver and modded inf, maybe installing the driver with the IGP enabled messed something up?. The low temp is just another indicator that the card is running very slow

 

I install v337.88 with modded INF but still same issue...the GPU core clock can't exceed 135mhz. Is unlock vbios help?
Look like 880m can't use in my MX17R4, Is this because I use 3720qm and c216 chipset?

 

That's looking fatal for the 880m. I've not seen one in anything other than the AW17 models so it could be a bunch of things, I know that the 770m for no good reason does not play nice in an R3 .

It clearly throttles down to the lowest clock and voltage as soon as a load is put on the card. It could even be power supply, the extra draw is hitting throttle points . Unlikely since the 880m is supposed to draw slightly less power but you'd needs a spare PSU just to remove it from the list of potential causes.

A different vbios could help if it is designed to remove throttles but usually all they do is remove limits - you'd have to ask and look around in techinferno for Svl7's mods.

Is there any way you can return it?

I'll ask around and see if anyone else has any ideas (esp. with the bios settings). Make sure you only see the NV card in Device manager - just a sanity check on my part !

EDIT: Found the post I was remembering : http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...r4-owner-s-lounge-thread-538.html#post9779497 Do you have that bios option?

 

Hi MickyD, just saw your post, there is one other setting to change in the BIOS that might help the problem. Using the A12 Unlocked BIOS or A08 Unlocked BIOS: go to Advanced>Video Configuration, and change Primary Display from SG to PEG, then click on Internal Graphics Device, then IGD again and change from Enabled to Disabled. Save and exit. The bit in bold there is the part that looks to have been missed from the process.

Another thing to try after the previous advice is to uninstall the NVidia driver using the Windows Control Panel, and then using a free program called DDU Uninstaller to remove all remnants of graphics drivers, then reinstall latest NVidia graphics driver using a modified inf. Here's the link to DDU Uninstaller: Guru3D.com

EDIT: ignore my specific advice about using A12 or A08 unlocked BIOS - they're just for M17xR3, hadn't realised he had the M17xR4, but there might be a corresponding unlocked BIOS for the R4, or the R4 BIOS might have those features accessible by default, either way the main point is the bit in bold I wrote, as well as the DDU uninstaller.

 

@robbo, Yeah he is on an unlocked bios so hopefully it's as simple as that setting

Thanks for the input (I must spread some rep around )

 

No problem, I hope some of that advice can help to get the 880M working - I hope it works too because the more cards that turn out compatible with the R3 makes me think the possibility of the 980M being compatible with the R3 be better! (Not that I'll be upgrading to 980M in the next months or year, but maybe...).

 

Yup, the 980m has hit ebay so now we need an R3/R4 owner to take the plunge

I'm ready to retire my beast, I just hope AW come up with something I can spend my money on ...

 

I'm ready to retire my beast, I just hope AW come up with something I can spend my money on ...[/QUOTE]

Thank for your advise!
After I disable my on board graphic card, the score didn't change. But, I find out that my benchmark score is even better with out PSU !!!
I'm using the 327.23 driver and this is the best driver I can find.

 

All very strange! It looks like during the battery test it occasionally clocked up briefly.Just some weird side effect of the core problem I think (optimus somehow messing with the machine?). What the fix is though I'm running out of ideas .

Did you check for that setting Robbo told you about?

If you are sure you disabled the iGPU in the bios then it may be the case that it just will not work . It's not like the 880m has a good rep and I've not seen anyone use one in an older machine...