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    Monitor Seems to be bit loose

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by GxGaNi, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. GxGaNi

    GxGaNi Notebook Geek

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    Hey guys,

    My M17x-R2 just a week old. Been noticing that, the monitor(whole part), seems to be loose, like for example if i keep the monitor at 90(degrees) to laptop base, it could tilt to 100(degrees) if i lift the laptop tilted or push it with minimal force. Like just 10(degrees) more. Is it normal ? Indeed it is very tight, requires my both of the hands to lift them to open.

    Thanks and regards,
     
  2. VoiceInTheWilderness

    VoiceInTheWilderness Notebook Consultant

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    I suspect that a little looseness is normal, but you could ask their techs to be sure. Mine seems a bit like yours as well. I think models like the M1730, which I also have, may have taught some lessons that a really tight hinge is not necessarily the best. As they wear and fatigue, they can get weak to the point of cracking. One of my older machines actually did that; one side if the hinge and case cracked almost all the way through.
     
  3. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    And overtightening is destroying the poor little m11x's hinges :(

    So a bit of loosness is fine :) Especially in a screen as large - and heavy - as the m17x (c'mon, aluminum ain't airweight :p).
     
  4. irkan

    irkan Notebook Consultant

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    Mine actually is not loss as you described, its sturdy, when i open it up 90 degrees it stays 90 degrees, if i try to push it or pull, i have to excrete a relatively strong force to move it

    maybe a loss screw? if there are screws there, dunno.

    mine is also a little difficult to open if the lid is closed like you described
     
  5. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Mine is the same way you have to remove the black panel on the back of the lid and tighten the screws there are 4 I believe over time they loosen due to the weight I have retightened mine several times its not a big deal as wherever I put the lid it stays but i can just tap it and it will jiggle, but if you tighten those screws it will be firm again and it is relatively simple to do doesnt take more than 10 minutes and that is taking your sweet time. All you have to do is remove the top strip with the volume keys etc. then two screws to remove the little rear black panel then tighten the screws that are there.
     
  6. doublee

    doublee Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine's actually opposite of that. If I put my screen at 90 degree, I can just gently pull the screen towards me which ends up being in 80 degree form. I usually have my screen above 90 degree so this doesn't really bother me.
     
  7. GxGaNi

    GxGaNi Notebook Geek

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    So i guess this is common indeed. thanks guys.
    @Mkeliliny

    I'll try your solution soon.
     
  8. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Gani i am going to do you one better I am actually bout to take my beast apart to redo my touchpad tech didnt put it in right. SO I will tighten my hinges and take pics for you.
     
  9. VoiceInTheWilderness

    VoiceInTheWilderness Notebook Consultant

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    That would be great to see! Please do that and post your photos here so we can all benefit. My beast is new and I would love to see how such adjustments can be made.
     
  10. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Ok Just finished Man the guy that last fixed my system lost most of my screws on my magnesium plate and he put my screen and touchpad on wrong so I had to fix that I ended up having to take the entire laptop apart tore it down, fixed, and put back together in an hour, but here are the pics some of them might be a little blurry was using my mytouch 4g to take the pics.


    Ok Pic number this is the laptop flipped over and after i removed the battery and the back panel.

    remove the two screws circled in red
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    after that flip the laptop over and open the screen as far as it can go
    and slide something (I used an eyeglass screw sized flat head and pried it up gently then gently pull up on the panel until it comes off( becareful that you dont jerk it because there is a tiny little ribbon in the middle to the left of the alienhead Power button.

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    then the two screws (circled in red) to remove the black panel on the lid are located here behind the mag cover once you remove the 4 screws circled in yellow and you remove the screen they will be visible.

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    here are the close ups of the screws once you get the screen off
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    then you just flip the screen over slide off the black lid
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    then here are the locations of the 4 screws to tighten (circled in red) only need to tighten the two large screws see description above next pic.
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    and close ups (the ones in red are for the hinge and need to be tightened and the ones circled in yellow are for the lid assembly and they may or may not need to be tightened (really shouldnt have to)in my case they did just a little the ones circled in red where really loose)
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    then do the reverse to put everything back together my screen is firm again It used to flex now its very solid feels like it did when I first opened the box! hope it helps and in my case I had to take the screen off you may or may not need to depending on if you can see the screws when you take off the touchstrip.
     
  11. VoiceInTheWilderness

    VoiceInTheWilderness Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for your photos! This is very helpful. I'm wondering though, I think what you did was tighten the screws that mount the entire lid & screen assembly to the machine, as you did mention that it had become wobbly. What I'm concerned more with, since mine isn't really wobbly, is if one can adjust the torque required to swing the lid on the hinges. I tend to like some rigidity in the lid, such that it swings with moderate pressure and stays snugly wherever it is oriented. In my earlier post I mentioned that over time the computer's case can fatigue and crack if the hinges require too much torque or become tighter, but so long as they aren't ridiculously tight I would prefer tighter to looser. Are the screws you tightened related at all to the hinge torque, or were you just eliminating wobble on the hinge mounts? Is there an adjustment for the turning torque of the hinges at all?
     
  12. GxGaNi

    GxGaNi Notebook Geek

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    Awesome post mkelliny, repped.

    @Voice,
    One more thing, more tight the hinge is => more harder it becomes to open the lid without using another hand on the base for support to open it. :p (i'm lazy)
     
  13. debaucher

    debaucher Notebook Deity

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    mkelliny,

    In the second to last picture you show where you just tightened the red screws that is correct.

    If you tighten the yellow screws you are just going to tighten the back screen cover (which unless is loose you don't need to worry about it).

    I just had my screen replaced for the 3rd time last night and had to go through this process (except I forgot to tighten my hinges so I will have to open her up again soon)

    Thanks for posting the pics so that everyone can benefit.

    D.
     
  14. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    The torque on the hinges are those screws under the black lid my screen is harder to pull up now than it used to be but if they are loose it wobbles. I think its meant to be really firm.

    Thanks and yah you are right it is harder to open up the lid now have to use two hands.
    Right I mentioned that I think that you only need to tighten those if they where loose but i will clarify what they are for in my post. For some reason they where loose on mine the red circled ones are for the hinges the yellow circled ones are for the lid assembly all four of those screws where loose on mine. Red> than yellow.
     
  15. 5abivt

    5abivt Notebook Consultant

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    I'm curious now. I received mine last week and I am noticing something just slightly odd about the lid. My lid is tight. I have to hold the base with one hand just to get the lid open. When it I'd open however at a 90 degree angle or do I notice that I can move the lid +/- 10 degrees without much resistance. It doesn't feel loose per say but I'm comparing it to my MacBook pro lid which had about 80% of the resistance but was consistent at any positing even if slightly moving the lid a couple of degrees.

    My first guess was because the lid uses a dual spring setup of some sort to keep the lid shut tightly when closed.

    I'll make a quick video put it on YouTube and link it here.. Once I get my baby to sleep that is !
     
  16. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    At 90 degrees my screen does not wobble at all cant move it at all this of course is after I tightened it. The screws get loose enough to where it can still be hard to open just when it reaches 90 degrees it becomes loose. My only guess is the weight of the screen, But you can try to tighten the screws Ill let you know if it was the same as mine after you post that video.
     
  17. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    same thing here, try to put the laptop upsidedown with the lid closed and see if it open slightly by his own weight