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    New AMD 7000m and Nvidia 600m series lineup

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by widezu69, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    4GB is alot for a notebook!
     
  3. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Nice choice of words, you said "a lot" but no mention of "too much" because there is never such as thing as too much :D
     
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    i saw that..but wasn't impressed..next gen AMD Wim Xt only gets 15500 in vantage. I get almost 17k now. So either that's wrong or these cards are just a slight update over what there is now...plus its still only DDR5. i guess i'm going to have to wait for the XDR2 if it ever comes to mobile versions
     
  5. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Well those are stock clocks. I'm sure they can OC way higher than 17k. Just look at the top nvidia card! 21k @stock!
     
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    ya, for sure they'll be overclockable, but overall, they look like a slight bump up and nothing major. Something similar from a 6970 to 6990
     
  7. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Yeah true not that impressed with AMD's lineup. Nvidia's looks good though.
     
  8. bigtonyman

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    hmm wonder how much the nvidia cards are gonna cost though, probably an arm, a leg, and then some :D
     
  9. zoolian982

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    4gb isn't much really. In the future, we'll have triple gpu and dual socket cpu laptops.

    Around 2020.


    Don't forget the spare kidney.
     
  10. GeoCake

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    Erm, I don't think I have seen a game use more than 1GB.... The only way you'll reach more than 1GB is some insane texure pack work. Therefore 4GB is very pointless.

    Once the next gen consoles come out - PS4/Xbox 1080 (lol) only then we might see the need for more vram.

    Also; why can't AMD make a more powerful mobile card for once. :confused:
     
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    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    I've got a pair of all of those. I can get by with just one arm, leg and kidney. In all seriousness, I've sold my M15x so I have some money. Was gonna look at a potential IPS mod but I may wait for the 4GB 680m GTX. Hoping that it won't be exclusive to Ivy Bridge models. Looking forward to Dell prepping bios A09 with 3D support :D
     
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    Three high resolution screens and your 4Gb won't be useless ;)
     
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    I think I might be better off just getting the better CPU, GPU and A better screen as well. AKA a New laptop :D
     
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    Nah, doubt that. By that time we'll have 20 core laptop CPU's + dual GPU at max along with 8 core mobile phones and tablets. Almost sure laptops would diminish by 2020(2025) :)

    anyways, pretty nice performance chart! Nvidia is ahead as usually, but there's no way to be sure right now. You know you don't have to trust graphs before the actual release :D

    The only downfall for me was the lack of XDR2 memory for AMD, but it was rumored that even desktop GPU's could get different from 7900 names) tempting...
     
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    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Well we're starting to see the 2048 x 1536 screens filling the gap between 1080p and 2560 x 1440. Hopefully we'll see that resolution in 17.3 and 18 inch screens. I've filled up my 2GB vram when running texture mods for some games. Larger vram also benefits lod range for example if BF3 was patched to have a much longer view distance, long enough so looking down a sniper scope, you'd see full detail. That would use up vram too.
     
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    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Aye, but it all comes down to textures. Most PC games are ports from consoles, and consoles barely have any vram. Like I said, either insane texture packs or next-gen console ported games will make use of 2GB+ of Vram

    Besides, three screens connected to a laptop... are you serious? Hope not.

    Overall it's nice to have more vram for insane texture packs and draw distance [which will slow your card down anyway w/ AA and AF in mind leading you to turn settings down ._.], I just prefer a more powerful card in general, what AMD are offering from the 7000m series (if that's true) is pathetic.
     
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    I can See Far enough though in BF3 with 12x optics how much more do you wanna see? just turn on thermal optics and you'll see everything.
     
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    Looks like i will have to throw my R1 out of the window then, soon.. And i could probably throw the wallet with it..There will be nothing left in it :D


    - Scott.
     
  19. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    I'm just giving a hypothetical example. When I glance through a sniper scope, the textures lack AF and the shadows are limited. I was just saying that if all graphics objects are loaded as far as the eye can see then it would make use of the 4GB vram :)
     
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    hehe reminds me of this situation...
    hopefully we've learned since then.

    about the new line up, holy smoke nvidia!
    way to burn! i'd love to see one of those in action for 20k +!
    and sli? zzzzzZZZ
     
  21. flingin

    flingin M17x R2 Mafia

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    vantage is not a best benchmark to show real performance dif against our cards. Anyway if this will work in R2, then we will have CF-RGB heaven.

    SWEET :D
     
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    I hope this come out soon, so I can get a refurbished M18x with SLI GTX 580M for less than $2000 :D
     
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    Sure, but not all and others don't only play games on these systems.

    Yes, I am.
     
  24. CleaningService

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    OH MY GOD! This is horrible/amazing! I can't keep up! My 460m is feeling like an 8600 GTS :O

    Hopefully it won't be exclusive to Ivy Bridge........ I am not buying another laptop within 1 or 2 years
     
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    Not only they will be faster but they will be much cooler which is great for laptops
     
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    I don't think the 460M is showing its EOL anytime soon. If you do, you make me feel my 6990M is going to EOL as well lol... :p
     
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    well i'd take a 6990m, its 40% faster :p
     
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    I hope 7000 will fit to R2
     
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    I agree. If (or should I say when... ;) ) I decide to upgrade my GPUs in the future, it will be to these guys. Hopefully they'll play nicely with our system.
     
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    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Aunty June Notebook Guru

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    will it work with my R3?
     
  32. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    And boom someone asks the obvious question :eek: The real answer is that no one knows.
     
  33. flingin

    flingin M17x R2 Mafia

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    We dont really know as m17x r4 will have IVY bridge (i think) so whole laptop will have complete diff specs than r3 at the moment. So there may be some issues (fan/sleep etc).

    But if dell decides to put 7xxx and 6xx as a refreshment to r3, then yes, PLUG & PLAY !!!
     
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    yup that's the real question. I hope we see some answers in the near future though we ill prob have to wait till CES or something to find out for sure. :( grrr I hate waiting
     
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    Based on the release date, it is only for rebadged chips first for low and mid-end solutions. Wimbledon is what most people here are interested and we don't know yet quite frankly when they will be released.
     
  37. devillucifer

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    O__o
    did you guys notice this ! the 8.93 driver package do support
    mobility 7000m > 7800m and Wimbledon XT/Pro series (7900m series)

    open msi file using orca
    in the W76A_inf folder you will see:

    [​IMG]

    7900m is coming, :)) can't wait haha
     
  38. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    well, the rep I was talking during my purchase, he repeatedly claimed that gtx 600m will be compatible with R3, what are the chances he was telling the truth?
     
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    Grain of salt.
     
  40. zoolian982

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    Probably just trying to keep interest so we buy more products.