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    New Kingston HyperX 8GB 1866MHz PnP Memory

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by T2050, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    I don't understand how the KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G kit is sold out...What do they do, make 5 at a time?
     
  2. Dave3

    Dave3 Notebook Consultant

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    PM price please!
     
  3. T2050

    T2050 Notebook Deity

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    Yes it does :)

    BIOS has support for:

    1600 MHz
    1866 MHz
    2133 MHz

    :D
     
  4. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    My bad, learn something every day, dontcha? - sorry for any duff info folks....
     
  5. carthikv12

    carthikv12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea I think Sandy Bridge supports 1600 in stock but to use the faster ones, you will have to enable the XMP memory profiles which the sandy bridge chipsets support... I'm guessing the 'plug and play' ones enable it themselves somehow to earn themselves that title.
     
  6. KillerBunny

    KillerBunny Notebook Evangelist

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    This seems like a fair conclusion. I to want to just find out if the new Kingston HyperX 1866 runs at that speed natively when you plug it in, no bios xmp profiling.

    I thought 1600 was the max supported frequency natively, but this might be different
     
  7. Kotori

    Kotori Notebook Guru

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    I tried searching for 2133 but nothing came up so I was wondering what exactly they did in this video.

    YouTube - Kingston HyperX SO-DIMM 2133 MHz (CeBIT 2011) - report and new products

    How did they achieve 2133 on the hyper x 1600 modules? Thats one heck of an overclock....If I took what he was saying wrong someone explain what was going on to me. He said no laptops support past 1600 but why is there an XMP profile in the bios for 1866 and 2133?
     
  8. viciosogb

    viciosogb Newbie

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    Hi everyone,

    I recently bought a M17x R3 and Im planing to get the big 16, 2 kits of 8gb hyperx.

    But when I visit newegg store I found that there are more than one type of hyperx :S

    So Im wondering if someone can tell me which one is better.

    The one that support XMP profiles?:
    Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3K2/8GX

    Or the new one available?:
    Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G

    Please any advice is welcome
     
  9. lukimonki

    lukimonki Notebook Geek

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    dont get the new one unless you got the 2630qm cpu otherwise it's a waste of money.
     
  10. Squeeker the Cat

    Squeeker the Cat Notebook Consultant

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    get the blue kit........youll have no problems what so ever!
     
  11. viciosogb

    viciosogb Newbie

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    Thanks guys for your answers

    Ill buy the blue ones.

    I dont get the difference between the 2, anyone knows?, I thought that was the XMP profiles, but as long as I understand the XMP is to run the memory at 1600, and the other hyperx (the grey one) is at 1600 "plug and play", so... dont get it...

    By te way lukimonki, I have the same specs in my M17.
     
  12. LVNeptune

    LVNeptune Notebook Virtuoso

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    The blues are in stock, the others aren't.

    I have blue in my 2820 and set XMP Profile 2 I think, works great.
     
  13. CurrentlyPissed

    CurrentlyPissed Notebook Geek

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    why is it only beneficial on the 2630? curious since thats what mine is coming with...
     
  14. Dave3

    Dave3 Notebook Consultant

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    It's not, you can change the 2630QM to be compatible with 1600 MHz RAM in the BIOS. If you don't want to do that, you can buy the black ones and they'll work right away without you having to change anything. In the 2720QM and up, they natively support the 1600 MHz, so then there's no difference at all between them.
     
  15. libertine

    libertine Notebook Guru

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    HyperX KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G > 1600MHZ
    dou you know what is PC3-12800 or DDR PC3500 ??? is it important??

    at the moment in newegg is out of stock so i was looking in other online store and i found this:

    > Kingston Technology KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G - 8GB KIT 2X4GB 1600MHZ DDR3 SODIMM HYPERX CL9 PLUG N PLAY
    Memory speed : 1600 MHZ ( PC3-12800 ) this is in the description... :confused:

    > Kingston Hyperx Plug N Play 8 GB KIT (2X4GB Modules)1600MHZ DDR3 Sodimm NOTEBOOK/NETBOOK Memory 8 Dual Channel KIT (PC3 12800) 204-PIN KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G: Details & Specs at NexTag
    Memory type: DDR PC3500 this is also in the description.... :confused:

    is that relevant???
    thank u for the answers.. :D
     
  16. Emm3

    Emm3 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm wondering the same thing. Installed 1600 and saw the options there
     
  17. Le0-

    Le0- Notebook Evangelist

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    02:42 quote
    "and current notebook technologies do not support 2133 mhz at this time..."
    they OC'ed new modules (that actually use new technology) to 22-23%, not a big deal actually. bench improved from 1;13 to 57 sec as well. I don't know much about DDR OC tech, but if it is a hyperX module they prolly added up some hardware speed ups to it, as it natively runs on 1600
     
  18. Nemix77

    Nemix77 Notebook Deity

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    Hi,

    I'm going to upgrade the ram on my Vostro with a i5-2410M (Sandy Bridge) from 4GB to 8GB and trying to decide between these three options:

    Newegg.ca - SAMSUNG 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Laptop Memory Model MV-3T4G4/US $95/8GB DDR3-1333 CL9 40nm Technology

    Newegg.ca - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3K2/8GX $94/8GB Blue Kit DDR3-1600 CL9

    Newegg.ca - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G $109/8GB Grey Kit DDR3-1600 CL9 Sandy Bridge Plug n Play

    Does anyone know if the Kingston HyperX Blue or Gray kits are using 40nm Technolgy like the Samsungs? Samsung Mass Producing 40nm-class 8GB DDR3 Module for Laptops and Mobile Workstations | techPowerUp

    Thanks,
     
  19. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    No clue on what IC is being used in the HyperX PnP kits but it is stable for me so far in my M18x
     
  20. Nemix77

    Nemix77 Notebook Deity

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    I'm trying to think if it's worth the extra cost for DDR3-1600 Grey Kit over Corsair DDR3-1333 8GB that is $35 less. The one thing that keeps me interested is the fact NVIDIA GPU's uses Optimus (GT 525M on my Vostro) thus the Intel GPU is still used majority of the time from auto switching depending on application. And because the Intel 3000 HD uses shared memory with the system ram, the DDR3-1600 would come in handy for Desktop use and certain applications that uses Intel GPU. From the review upgrading to from 6GB DDR3-1333 (Async) to 8GB DDR3-1866 (Dual) improves on the Intel GPU up to 30% depending on application and 5% of that performance improvement probably comes from switching to matched pairs dual channel. We can expect up to 25% performance gains on the Intel GPU if one upgrades from DDR3-1333 dual channel to DDR3-1866 dual channel and roughly up to 2/3 of 25% going from DDR3-1333 dual channel to DDR3-1600 dual channel.

    Still thinking but very tempted maybe a price drop would make this all easier. :p

    Edit:
    Looks like the memory will not work with my i5-2410M from the NewEgg buyer who got it for his XPS 15 with the same CPU, phew this makes everything easier for me.
     
  21. devildoc17

    devildoc17 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just got my 1866mhz kinston hyperx pnp 4GB X 2 Ram cards, and to be honest you all of you I do not see any difference coming from my 4gb x2 Ram cards running at 1066 mhz.
    What Im I suposed to be looking for performance wise? Because until now it doesnt seem to be worth the investment ($150). I dont see any changes in performance.

    The only thing I noticed is my Windows experience index go up from 7.5 to 7.9, but still those are just numbers and dont really mean much to me.

    Any imput would be greatly appreciated, I am planning on returning these Ram cards tomorrow unless someone can prove me wrong :)
     
  22. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    If you have read reviews of RAM you understand that it is mostly about scores in benchmarks between 1066 vs 1333 vs 1666 vs 1866 MHz.

    I think you got better score with the new RAM is because Windows is calculating bandwith etc which is indeed better with the faster RAM. It just get down to wether the applications actually benefit from more bandwith.
     
  23. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    You will not see a real-life difference unless benchmarking or unless you do computationally intensive work.
     
  24. devildoc17

    devildoc17 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes I understand now...... im returning those cards today total waste of money.
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    They will make a difference if you do math/physics simulations or scientific work. Nothing will be different for regular windows use though
     
  26. devildoc17

    devildoc17 Notebook Evangelist

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    I dont do anything of the sort lol Well i least I can say I tried them lol
     
  27. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Anyone tried this with a Clarksfield extreme chip (i7 920xm/940xm)?
     
  28. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I think they officially only go to 1333.Not sure what the limits in Bios are.
     
  29. T2050

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    When the M17x isnt not working hard, it is difficult to tell the difference.

    I took my stock 1333MHz CL9 RAM and modded it to 1600MHz CL9. I can say for sure it made a huge difference on the way the IGP runs. Personally I will run the the M17x on my lap for 2-3hours with the 6970M switched off, and when I decide to play a game for 10-20 mintues, it runs real nice.

    This may not be the best test and old, however does give you the idea. I ran rthdribl v1.1 on two identical M17x at the same time, one with my 1600MHz CL and the other with 1333MHz CL9.
    1600MHz CL9 ~ 28-30 FPS
    1333MHz CL9 ~ 20-22 FPS

    DX9 Real-Time High-Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting - Version 1.1
    rthdribl - Real-Time High Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting -
     
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    IGP is hugely ram bandwidth dependent...that is the best reason outside of benching to get the faster ram
     
  32. devildoc17

    devildoc17 Notebook Evangelist

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    Who would use IGP to play video games anyways when we have GAMING laptops with powerful GPU's? lol not me!!

    I tried running crysis on the IGP with 8 GB of 1866 MHZ and my FPS where 10-14 on medium specs lol pretty much unplayable........ so definitely not worth it to upgrade for the price they cost at the moment... ($150-160)
     
  33. T2050

    T2050 Notebook Deity

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    I sometimes play Crysis 2 when the laptop is on my desktop.

    Then sometimes I play older games on my lap with the IGP, and still get to use my M17x to do it. :D

    Using the 6970M on you lap is not the best idea for the battery life (including the how hot the battery gets, it will die young), although good for short brusts.

    I think you should return your memory, you are clearly unhappy about it, then problem solved. :p
     
  34. devildoc17

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    I already returned it, what kind of older games would the IGP be able to handle?
     
  35. cookinwitdiesel

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    original HALO

    lol
     
  36. Dreamliner330

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    I'm buying this memory for my new Latitude e6520...I hope it works :D
     
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