News about the upcoming GTX 680M

Just thought I would share on the Nvidia main page:

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I don't know what relevance it has, but until I see an unbiased test I won't buy into those graphs.

Especially considering I have a HD3650 and can run DiRT 3 on Ultra.. Far Cry 2 as well, DA2 isn't very intensive either, but we'll see. If improvements really are that much, it's worth $300 for the SLI because then you think about it, your paying $150 each card for a card that smokes the AMD's (providing this data IS real and not sales crap), which is an exceptional deal if you ask me.

 

I think you have your prices wrong...you're not going to get SLI 680 for $300

you are paying $300 MORE for a single 680m on top of the price of a 7970m

So it will be about a $500-600 upgrade for one 680m over the default alienware gpu

 

Ah ok, still that's cheap for listed amount of performance increase.

 

The Clevo ones all seem to be 4gb so far but the Alienware announcement said 2gb, I'm kinda hoping this will make it a little cheaper than the nearly $300 I've seen so far.

 

is this trueeee?!

 

Here's a video on youtube from the computex booth at E3 (I think) it is in Spanish so I can't understand what it says. Doesn't give much info but it looks like Max Payne 3 runs nicely

nVidia GeForce GTX 680M - YouTube

I recognize it from an earlier post at benyouhui:

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Cool. What I got from the description is that its running with everything maxed

 

is spanish bro XD! jajaja no italian XD!

 

The nVidia GTX 680M is not faster then the Radeon HD 7970M:
Nvidia stellt GeForce GTX 680M offiziell vor - Seite 2

 

Only time will tell. I for one am waiting to see some hard numbers from someone here on this forum with one installed in their system before I believe anything.

 

I think the 680m might actually be faster overall, but it costs about twice as much as the 7970m right?

If economy works normal, the 680m would be also twice as fast as the 7970m which I highly doubt, what makes it a worse Price/Performance card.

 

Haha changed my bad

 

I always stuck with nvidia because of CUDA (I do video editing, colour correction etc), however the new premiere pro seems to support AMD cards now sooooo not sure what to do. Either I'll wait for the next thing after 680m, or I'll grab the 7970m

 

You mean aside from the card being based on the desktop's GTX 670? Not sure...

If it doesn't beat the 7970M by a fair margin, then I'll be surprised. Though I have to admit that I hope Nvidia will upgrade the existing GTX 660M or make something like a GTX 660M Ti with the release of this card. I mean... come on Nvidia:

Mainstream: GTX 660M = GTX 550 Ti(Desktop)
Enthusiast: GTX 680M > GTX 580(Desktop)

I'd say that's a fair enough gap to state, "The hell is wrong with you!?" * cue sad music*

 

ughh when will t go live on AW, I need to order my system already!

just sold my R3 for 1,200

 

I am holding out on buying the GTX 680m until real benches are out, but finally Australians get a break, the gtx 680m is a $300 upgrade from the 7970m where as it would usually be $100 more than the US prices

 

According to my Dell rep, he has 20 customers waiting for further information regarding the 680M before pulling the trigger on the R4. He says that he does not yet know how much the card will cost to fit and may not know much more for a week or so (regards to price and performance). Don't know how helpful this is, but I thought I'd let you guys know.

 

Just so you guys know, probably end of the month, officially.

Alienware Getting Latest NVIDIA Kepler Cards to Continue Delivering Maximum Performance for Gamers - Direct2Dell - Direct2Dell - Dell Community

 

What we know for sure:

680m gets:

approx. 5700 3dmark11's
21,900 vantage
59 fps in Ungine (normal tess 1080p)

Surprisingly, my 7970 does better in all

i think it will be a situation of some games liking it better because they were "the way it was meant to be played", and other games favoring AMD. we also don't know how well the cards will overclock. We know the 680m comes with 900mhz vram for 3.6ghz effective. This is the exact same memory bandwidth in the 580m's

My advice to everyone: Don't fall into the nvidia hype machine. This is gonna be a 580m vs 6990 all over again. When i get a 680m to bench, i'll let everyone know for sure what the numbers are...then I'll probably sell it cause the card is too damn expensive

 

^^ Exactly why I decided not to wait for it... would a 300$ price bump really warrant the purchase of a card that may or may not be faster than a 7970?? and even if faster then by a small margin?

Personally I'd rather set that 300 to the side, buy some good thermal paste and pads - repaste my gpu - overclock the **** out of it, buy another 830 samsung SSD, run Raid 0, and be much faster and happier.

 

I don't get why everyone is so excited about this card....look at the graph people...Yeah it looks like the 680 is blowing away the 7970 but take a look at the actual percentages that go with it not just the bars....the 680 in most cases is about 10-15% faster with the most dramatic increase coming from Dirt 3 and it could be maybe 25%- 30% , to me those are not anywhere near drastic enough numbers for me to regret buying a 7970m and I won't regret it for a minute. These numbers are also just hype and rumors at this point, I bet once the card is released you will see very little real world difference between the two and as usual Nvidia will cost you twice as much.

 

Its like comparing a GTR and a Veyron minus the swag - the veyron is a Tiny bit quicker than a gtr yet is 10x the price... So when swag points dont matter, is it really a good choice?

 

Whoops, looks like I was talking about the 675M. Never mind.

 

I'm more interested in whether the 680M or the 7960M runs cooler while gaming. I know the 7960 is fairly efficient with temps but haven't heard anything about the 680.

 

you mean 7970?

Ya temps will be a concern especially in an alienware (re: 78c throttle). however, it is 28nm so it should be running cooler than previous gen. We don't know anything about temps yet until we get a good review

 

Yes, the 7970, I'm not sure how my fingers slipped with that one.

I'm not in a rush so I'll wait to see how the reviews pan out, but the few points difference in benchmarks don't mean as much to me as a few degrees in temperature under the hood.

 

IDK but i think that the 7970m iis better than the 680m and i am a nvidia guy :S

 

Sniff sniff.... anybody else smell that?
Oh wait.... that's the burning hole in my wallet once this card comes out xD

 

LOL...start saving bro, this card will run you about $700, if you're lucky

 

Once that card comes out and then demand for the 7970m drops I might look at snagging one of those. The 680m just doesn't look like its gonna be worth the price.

 

Pffffft, who needs luck when I got NLP.

 

I plan to upgrade to this card if it turns out to be significantly better than my 580M. I read in another thread that the 3D no longer works if you replace your video card with a different model. Is this true? I was kind of hoping I could buy it from eBay for less than what Dell charges but I didn't know that it was possible for the 3D to get disabled.

 

well by the moment i willnot get any new 7970m or other stuff because what i know this are the last card for the M17x r3 and well i will buy it when the market is low and cheaper jajaja xD! by th emoment my 580m is enought

 

won't know for sure till it gets tested. Perhaps if it is disabled somebody will come up with a workaround. Only time will tell.

 

Not only that, but the system will not boot. The 120Hz display is not compatible with AMD cards in the M17x. There is no way to work around this as it is a hardware problem.

Edit: Were you referring to the 680M? It seemed like you meant the 7970M. If that is what you meant then I would think there is a way to make it work. I'm sure someone will test it for us depending on who gets them and when.

 

Don´t know if this information has been posted here somewere but according to Sweclockers the 680M will not have the boost function, it will "only" have a solid clock. There is some info on theire website (sweclockers that is), but they only speak swedish in the movie clip so dont think you will understand that much of it ^^

 

This is not true. 460M and 580M works on the same machine. It wouldnt make any business sense to lock out Nvidia within Nvidia. If they use 680M for M17x R4 it would be 100% compatible with those R4s having 580m currently.

BUT I would not be 100% sure about 680M in R3. It should logically unless they have done something drastically different in the bios available to R3 and R4.
Although R3 and R4 seem very much alike..the motherboard is entirely different too. I dont know know if this might contribute to the incompatibility of 680M within a R3.

R4 owners need not worry. As long as you have a 120Hz screen it will be perfectly compatible.

 

If the 7970M works perfectly in the R3, the 680M shouldn't be any different. And it wouldn't matter if you have the 120Hz 3D screen or the 60Hz screen, it'll work just fine.

 

Looks like a beast. Cant wait to get myself one.

 

Pardon my noobness here, but is the 680m going to need a modded BIOS file to be installed in an R3?

and secondly, does the 680m have a 68c thermal throttle?

 

Although I am not 100% sure, I do not think that you will need a modded bios to install the 680m in to the R3. Dell might release a Bios update if the R3's need one for the 680m.

For your second question, although I very much doubt that there will be a thermal throttle, we will see if it has any once some of the members here get their hands on one of them.

 

Thanks for the info man. You're more helpful than 2 of the Dell reps I just talked to. One of the reps I talked to said that the entire prospect was impossible because the R4 had a completely different motherboard and it would fry your parts.

It seems Dell is running a campaign of discouragement whenever customers ask about upgrading things themselves. I'm literally kind of speechless at the amount of misinformation they just threw at me when I asked basic questions like "Can I put a new graphics card in my M17x R3?"

 

Barely a 10% difference in BF3.

 

It's unfortunate, but some of the sales guys just don't know all that much about the systems they are selling or the technical capabilities of such an enquiry. That's where NBR steps in

 

Not sure if I'm allowed to do this but for those who found the graphs on the OP confusing here are some that are easyer to figure out
Graph 1
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Not having a go at Nvidia seeing as AMD does the same thing

 

It should work, we will know more soon. The MXM standard is backward compatible, the main issue will be if the 680m thermal kit fits in the R3. It should, because the R4 is physically almost identical, but perhaps there is something different inside that will prevent it. Assuming the 680m thermal kit fits then the card itself should work, just have to wait and see though.

I assure you some people on this forum with plenty of disposable income will try it, and then you will know.

As always, Alienware machines, especially those with extended warranties, hold their value EXTREMELY well. I have sold 3+ year old machines for more than half what I paid for them. If you feel like an upgrade is absolutely needed you can almost certainly sell your current system and buy a brand new one and end up spending less than the $800+ the new card alone would cost.

 

Who in the world bought you aw that is 3 years old for more than half the price lol??? I was lucky to get half on my 1.5 year old aw

 

Chances are that the 680M will probably have a throttle. Maybe not at 68C, but 78C. I think all Nvidia GPUs in Alienware's have a throttle.

 

That's an interesting conclusion to come up with, as it is explicitly depending on Dell having learned nothing from the GTX 580M throttling fiasco.

If Clevo can produce non-throttling cards, so can Dell.