PS3 hdmi in *M17X R3*

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if the screen on the r3 was capable of displaying 3D games from the ps3.

 

No. I tested with Xbox and Call of Duty Black Ops. You need a 3D TV that can process the side-by-side or whatever format the 3D is delivered from PS3. The R3 will not process the 3D input.

 

Even for ps3 3D games? Not rendering non-3D is understandable, but being a 3D monitor...

 

Again. NO. Nothing to drive the 3D emitter. Maybe if you can close your left and right eye at 60Hz...

 

Correction. HDMI doesn't support 120Hz so it would only be at 60Hz. maybe you only have to open and close your eyes at 30Hz.

 

lol well thank you.

 

can you use the HDMI in and a PS3 and the alienware as a capture card?

 

No. It is strictly passthrough even though your computer must be on.

 

do you know if it support 24hz for watching movies?

 

Anyone know what the HDMI input would be used for then? Most devices rub off of USB... especially with the USB 3.0.

I guess what I'm saying is that the HDMI input on seems useable for media input. If you can't game on it - what's the point? Everything else uses USB ports.

Of course, I guess you didn't say you COULDN'T play the games... you just said you couldn't play them in 3D. So I guess, for people wanting to hook their game systems up to it anyways... I suppose it works.

Any other ideas?

 

I've used both a bluray and dvd player with the HDMI in now and they support it just fine. I think I may have found a way to do instant conversion of on board files or movies read from the disk player but as everyone else has said I don't think 3D is possible with the HDMI in.

 

This is freekin hilarious LOLZ!

I'm interested in this feature though, but was wondering about HDMI cables in general. I have a 6foot no name brand one bought for 2bucks from meritline. Is this good enough?

 

I don't believe a word jywang is saying. I was under the impression that the 360 wasn't 3D capable. Can someone test out this theory with the PS3?

 

This was one of the main reason why I've decided to wait for R3 to come out. I wanted to play my PS3 with it since I might move out a couple of time in 3 years and more so can't get a TV.

Shame about the 3d/hdmi but luckily it's not a big deal to me.

 

@BlazeGaj, you can still plug your ps3 in it and game away.... just doesn't support ps3 3D games (supposedly).

 

Yea, that is a shame. But again it's not big deal to me.


I'm just glad there is a laptop that has 3d and hdmi input with 17in screen.


A question is the hdmi cable that is holding back the 3d PS3 games? If so I'm sure in the future we'll have some ways to get around the problem.


For now it's not a big deal.

 

I didn't think of that... I didn't think the Xbox had 3D capabilities anyways.

Also, for the guy that asked about the HDMI cable. Your cable will work just fine, especially on smaller screens, however.... you will not find a better cable than "Monster Cable". Not just because of durability and lifetime warranty, but they are made with better materials and if you have the exact same machines side by side - you will notice a difference in picture from a cheapo to a nice Monster cable. Also, any HDMI cable over 6ft will start to lose quality. Just an FYI - good luck!

And No... I'm not a "Monster Cable" salesman, lol! Look it up!

 

Is this a joke? Are you going to start saying Bose has the best speakers too?

The quality of Monster Cable is constantly refuted and proven to be all marketing hype designed to separate you from your money. Those $100+ cables sell at cost for $10-20 (or less sometimes) for anyone with an employee discount (at Best Buy for example). If they are such high quality, most of the cost should be going back to Monster to cover R&D and production, instead, it's all markup.

While I do agree that the construction quality is top notch, the picture is indistinguishable from any other HDMI cable, unless the display has been rigged to manipulate your perception of the picture. Best Buy and other tech stores are notorious for doing this.

Monster Cable scam at Fry's:
Monster "HDMI Difference" scam still kickin' in Fry's Electronics -- Engadget

Infamous Monster Cable/Coat Hanger test:
Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers -- Engadget


Save your cash and buy a cheaper cable from someone else.

 

Black Ops on Xbox 360 supports 3D by placing the left and right images side by side. TVs that support 3D can then take the side by side image and display it in 3D. This is done via post processing. The advantage of this type of 3D is that you don't lose frame rate but you only get 1/2 the resolution.

 

BTW, Monoprice.com is a great place to buy cheap cables.

 

Here is an article describing side-by-side 3D.

HD 101: The difference between sequential and side by side 3D -- Engadget HD

Trust me. Black Ops is one of the few games that supports side-by-side 3D as an option.

 

One last thing, when displayed on the R3, you can actually see the side by side. So, I guess if you put your face about 5 inches from the screen, you might be able to see the 3D effect...

 

For anyone that doubts that the Xbox 360 does 3D:

Call of Duty: Black Ops Update - 3D Support and New Level Details - Xbox 360 Previews at GameSpot

 

So it's not the same type of 3D the PS3 uses; thus, making it possible that the R3 will support it? I don't hate you, jywang. You just happen to be the bringer of bad news. Like the Persian from 300.

 

I beg to differ. Though it's partial personal opinion, the longevity and quality are clearly the best with Monster. I learned this the hard way with my PS3 and my 62" DLP. I burnt up a new cheap cable about once every two months (give or take)... I kept thinking it was my machine or something because of the use I put it through. Then one day I'm working in my car and I'm looking down at Monster cables that have been in there for 10+ years and moved from car to car and thought... what the heck - so I personally did the research and decided to spring for the Monster. A year later and not a single problem. I burnt up SEVEN of the $15 HDMI cables before I went with Monster and the Monster is only $35. It's a no brainer when it comes to quality.

As far as picture goes, I noticed a significant difference from my $15 8ft HDMI cable to my 5ft $35 Monster cable on my 62" Samsung 1080p DLP. So yes, in my case -it's all around better. Are there other cables out there that probably do the same thing as the Monster cable? Sure. But they are all the same price on the "high end" shelf and Monster is a brand name that I've trusted for years. So maybe the "high end" Panasonic or Sony cables do the same thing.... but only Monster offers a lifetime replacement warranty and it's the same price as all the others - and I still say it's more durable.

Either way, I think we can both agree that the car $15 HDMI cables are just that... crap and a waste of money.

But you know... opinions are like - you know.... everybody has them. That's just mine.

PS - Your examples were very very exaggerated. First off, any idiot that thinks a $15 HDMI cable and a Monster cable can make THAT big of a difference is just... well, an idiot. I never said you'd see a major difference like that described in your link from RCA to HDMI... ANY HDMI cable is going to blow away a basic RCA setup. I'm saying that with longer cheaper cables and better knit high-end cables - you WILL notice a difference on larger screens. Furthermore, the second link wasn't even using HDMI cables. They were basic speaker cables... which is nothing but copper with gold tips. The nly difference between cheap and Monster is the shielding. That's it. And of course durability. HDMI is different... get online and look up some real videos. Go buy a cheap one and then a Monster and cut in half with a razor blade... HUGE difference in craftsmanship where one is made with fine threaded copper wires and the other is heavier gauge woven copper with extra shielding between each individual wire. Trust me man, there is a difference with HDMI. You're comparing apples to oranges my friend.

 

This is funny haha

 

I agree. I'd like some confirmation that PS3 3D games will not work. Seems doubtful at the moment but confirmation would be nice.

 

Monoprice.com sells high quality cables for what they're truly worth. Anecdotal evidence doesn't stand up to confirmed facts. Monster Cable's a scam. Sorry if you take offense to that but it's been proven time and time again.

 

I like my no-name brand $2 cable from meritline. Works fine for my ps3 to connect to my computer monitor

 

It doesn't really matter and it deviates from the thread. I was just saying that in my experience, the cheapo cables do not last and my Monster cables have lasted years... And confirmed facts "confirm" that regardless of whether or not the quality of audio/video is better, Monster makes the most durable cable and backs it with a lifetime warranty. So to each their own. Kinda like buying Craftsman tools and cheapo Walmart tools... sure, that wrench will probably do the same job and you will save loads of cash, but at some point it's going to leave you in a spot where you need it and it breaks and you're stuck buying another one and you end up spending the same amount anyways. So you can spend that amount once and probably not have any problems because it's made better and IF it does break... you swap it out for a brand new one free of charge with no questions asked. That how Craftsman works. Same as Monster. Take your cheapo Walmart tool/cable back a year later and they will laugh at you.

Just my opinion though.

So... is someone working on confirming the PS3 thing?

 

Can we please keep the thread on topic.

 

mail Dane your ps3 and a 3d capable game if you reaaaaaaaally want to find out

 

I"m just waiting for my order to ship and this'll be one of the first things i'm gonna test. Ordered 1/28.

 

I'll do it. Dane, what's your address?

 

LOL
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Ok, my R3 just arrived this morning but i seem to be having trouble running 3D in general. The only thing that works so far is the nvidia test application in the nvidia control panel. I couldn't make the cyberlink 9.6 that came with it to run my 3d bluray. It just looks normal. So i tried updating the powerdvd program and it wouldn't even play the bluray anymore so i uninstalled it and put the powerdvd 10 trial on. Same as before just runs the movie like normal. Enabling or disabling 3D doesn't do anything to the video. So then I plugged in my ps3. No 3d options appear on the display settings.

 

This should help I hope YouTube - Alienware M17x R3 - HOW TO WORK 3D? & ETC.

 

After downloading my Left 4 Dead 2 from Steam, the 3D works fine the game. Now i'm stuck on tryin to get the my 3D bluray movie to work and the PS3 to work for 3D. I trying to decide if i should get the PowerDVD10 ultra edition since according to this link its the only way of me watching it: The best 3D video, Blu-ray player & DVD player software ? PowerDVD 10

The trial version of 10 didn't work so I'm afraid the paying for the Ultra might be a waste.

 

Got the 3D movie to work now, not exactly sure how. somewhere between restarting the computer and installing another player from 3dtv.at managed to make it work. All thats left is the PS3.

 

You won't get the PS3 playing 3D...not sure why you are trying.

 

Sorry to take this OT again, but I'm wondering if this is considered in any way normal or acceptable? I've never heard of cables burning up once every 2 months when connected between a PS3 and a TV...

I've had some cheapo cables connecting my PS3 to my TV for about 4 years now, and they haven't "burnt up". Just wondering if its even common for cables to burn up??

 

Is 3dtv.at free?

 

Seems to be free. But it doesn't play Bluray though... I just downloaded it so i can try viewing 3d video files that i downloaded.

 

I was going to pass on this until I saw it posted a few times.
HDMI is a digital standard, that means ALL cables conforming to that standard must meet the specs or they aren't in the standard.
Momster cables sell to people who were brought up with analog cables and still think that you get signal degradation because of the quality of the connectors etc....
This is false. I use a $3 cable and it works exactly as well as a $70 Monster Cable. Why? Because it conforms to the HDMI standard. If it didn't you would not get a signal and your TV wouldn't display anything. I alo have a large TV a Song 52" XBR and I can instantly notice a difference with Composite and component cables since I have those. HDMI does not have signal degradation. So no HDMI cable that meets the 1.3/1.4 spec
will show any increase in picture quality, period.

Now to say a Monster cable is more rugged and can handle being run over by the vacuum cleaner more times or something like that, ok, possibly.

My $3 cable from Amazon is almost 3 years old and still works great. Of course I don't run over it with anything and it basically just sits there plugged in.

Why this is on topic for 3D is some people will want to use the HDMI IN port for their Blu-ray player or PS3 or Camcorder. They don't need to cough up big money to do this. The cheap cable will work just as well and if it breaks due to constant movement which can happen with a laptop, well another $3 cable is still way cheaper than buying a $70 cable.

Here is a link, it's very similar to the one I have. Notice the 110% money back guarantee!

Amazon.com: Fanatic Digital Gold-Plated HDMI Cable with ferrite cores (2 meters/6 feet): Electronics

 

Just wanted to post an update.

I've gotten HDMI-In to work with psjb. I just have to use the PS3 via regular HDMI-input into a tv first, so that the PS3 is pre-set with HDMI-out as its output. And then I bootup the ps3 via psjb into my computer monitor, and then yank out the cable, and plug in the cable into the R3. Only problem though, is the sound keeps getting lost. It either has sound or it doesnt. I have to Fn+F8 to get back to windows desktop, check the volume, and then Fn+F8 back to HDMI-In, and the sound comes back. Then a minute or so later, the sound disappears again... Not sure if it's my HDMI cable or my HDMI-In port??? Sound output always works when using the PS3 on my computer monitor though (I use an HDMI to DVI cable for the monitor, vs. a regular HDMI cable for PS3+R3).

Someone please enlighten me

 

edited: responded to an old post

 

Dookie did u check IDT hdmi input sound level i had a similar problem like yours but i messed around with some of the settings in IDT and it managed to work.

 

I don't see anything in the Playback>ATI HDMI Output>Settings tab, except "ATI HDMI Output - is now unplugged", and there are 2 options greyed out: "Set as default playback device or "Set as default communication device". (I'm not using HDMI in atm). What options do you see, and does it matter which GPU I'm on when using hdmi-in?