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    Palm Rest Temp...

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by iceman600, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. iceman600

    iceman600 Notebook Consultant

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    I have this weird heat on the left side of my palm rest of my AW17... Is that normal because on the other side its not getting warm at all??? :confused:
    And im pretty sure under the left palm rest is an SSD so im confused why? Any other experiencing the same?

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  2. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The area you describe as getting unusually hot is directly above the secondary hard drive. The primary hard drive is located kind of in the middle of the 17. Do you have a secondary non-SSD hard drive installed? - that would account for that area getting 'warm' as traditional spinning drives create heat through their moving parts. If there is no secondary drive installed, I have no idea why that area should be getting overly hot, as it would be empty under the palm rest assembly. The only other thing that might be getting warm is the battery, as that is somewhat near that location......does this 'heat' occur when charging/on battery? - does it stop when fully charged/plugged in? See pictures below:

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  3. iceman600

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    I have a secondary hd but its a SSD... The traditional HDD is installed in the middle.
    I dont think its the battery either because mine is always plugged in and its not hot when its off or in a few hrs of use.
    This is weird coz idk whats making my left palm rest hot.


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  4. nightdex

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    Right underneath that spot lies the MSATA port. My palm rest gots hot there when my MSATA is being used as a caching device.
     
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    Oh now that make sense... Thanks!


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    Also have an mSATA caching drive....does not get hot at all....
     
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    Want to bet? I can promise you that the MSATA drive acting as must a chance drive gets hot after a few hours.
     
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    The drive may get warm but it does NOT cause my palm rest to heat up...I would know as I don't use an external keyboard , I actually use the keyboard on the laptop.
     
  9. iceman600

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    The msata makes sense because i use itt as a caching for my adobe suite and spotify.
    If its not the msata thats heating up then what the hell is heating up just below the left palm rest?!?!


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    The mSata itself should not get overly 'hot' as it has no moving parts - if it is caching a HDD, the potential of extra heat should only be pertinent to the location of the HDD that is being cached, if it indeed makes that drive run hotter. If the mSata is not being used to cache a HDD drive in the secondary location, I don't see why the left side of the palm rest would be prone to excessive temperatures.

    Saying that, this is of interest: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol.../734348-my-new-msata-ssd-get-quite-hot-2.html

    I guess if the mSata is constantly being used, it will get warm - to a degree. Operational temperature ranges seem to indicate that temps of 60c+ are commonplace......
     
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    Then it must be the keyboard daughter board... Thats the next thing just beneath the left palm rest. If thats getting hot should i be worried?
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    So should I. I use the keyboard, so I SHOULD know too. Regardless, I'm done talking to you. Every time we talk, you get all high and mighty as if my opinion doesn't matter.

    @OP, I can guarantee you that, if you remove your MSATA card. You'll notice a decrease in heat around that area of the palm rest. I know this because I purchased my AW 17 without an MSATA. My palm rest was cool at the front, at all times. Since adding an MSATA. My palm rest to the left of my mouse track pad had become somewhat warm after a few hours of using my AW 17.
     
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    Dex is right. The mSATA SSD would explain the heat.

    They do become quite hot, especially when they're being used. I've seen some idle around 40C-45C, and go up to 53C (or more) during use. That's enough to warm up your palm rest.
     
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    It would also be curious to see why then some people are complaining about heat from their mSATA locations while others like myself don't notice it at all.
     
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    I guess individual perception of what 'warm' and 'hot' might be is relative to themselves. I've got a little AW14 and I have a 7mm SSD located right under the right side of the palm rest - sandwiched between the ODD and the underside of the palm rest itself. Obviously, it is in use pretty much all the time as my OS is on it, however, I don't feel any undue or excess heat from that area - occasionally it might get warm-ish during certain activities that require a lot of read/writes, and I can notice it, but it is certainly not sufficient to get in a head-spin over and is not like I can fry an egg on my palm rest! LOL

    I would be slightly concerned if any SSD was hitting 60c-70c or more on a regular basis. Still, even though sensors may show that is the 'operating temperature', it's not likely to be the temperature being felt on the palm rest area due to dissipation.

    Bottom line - what's hot for one may be tolerable/acceptable for another.....
     
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    Since the normal mSATA ssd has no casing on it, it could affect its cooling performance compared to a traditional 2.5 inch SSD with the casing etc on it?