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    Please provide a guide for 3D viewing on 3DTV...

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by vads24, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. vads24

    vads24 Notebook Evangelist

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    This seems to be a rather hit or miss topic and many have asked about this again and again.

    So I hope someone who has hands on experience may provide a simple guide on how to connect Alienware R3 3D to an external 3DTV.

    Essentially we will be using the HDMI or DisplayPort connections. Correct?

    Do we require to use the wireless Nvidia Goggles that came with R3 to view the 3D content on an external 3DTV ? OR do we utilise whatever 3D apparels that come with the 3DTV.

    Is Nvidia GTX 580M sufficiently capable to power such content to external 3DTV?

    I hope someone with time in their hands can make a sticky on this matter. It is important because apart from having a 3D screen on the laptop its not that feasible when more than 1 wants to watch as we have to invest more on the active shutter goggles.

    So for those of us who would like to share viewing with others, it would be great to be able simply play these 3D content on a 3D TV as the eyewears for this purpose are simpler and affordable in greater numbers. We just require the Nvidia GPU to process the content.

    It will be of great help.
     
  2. vads24

    vads24 Notebook Evangelist

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    Seriously NOBODY?
     
  3. alienwolf

    alienwolf Notebook Deity

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    I would think if you have a 3D TV you would out put a movie from the player in 3D mode to the TV and should play with the TV's glasses. Since the movie is in its own format but I do not see the system capable of playing games as the FPS rate is cut down so much on the small screen. It would not be able to play on a larger screen. But Iam only going on what I have read and since Dell forgot to include my glasses Iam waiting for them to ship Monday I have not been able to test. Good questions will have to try. ;)
     
  4. DarkXeRoX

    DarkXeRoX Notebook Consultant

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    afaik if your using an external hdtv to do the 3d stuff u be using the glasses provided with the tv

    also for hdmi u need a hdmi 1.4 cable for it to work.
     
  5. DarthPierce

    DarthPierce Notebook Consultant

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    Also the "screen size" being an issue with frmaes per second is nonsense. a 1080p tv has the same resolution and therefore the same number of pixels to be drawn as the 3d screen on the m17x (1080p). You'll get the same fps on an external 1080p tv as you do on the built in screen.

    Yes, you'll have to use the glasses for the tv, not the laptop ones. (the flickering of the glasses has to be synced to the tv afterall)
     
  6. alienwolf

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    I would think the size of the screen would affect FPS for games? Or am I wrong. :confused:
     
  7. DarkXeRoX

    DarkXeRoX Notebook Consultant

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    size of the screen doesnt matter

    its the resolution,

    if your using a 17" screen @ 1920x1080 or a 100" screen still doing 1920x1080, your machine will still render exactly the same thing.

    however the bigger the screen the more stretched the image becomes basicly as its extending it to a larger screen compared to the 17".

    same if u look at older tv's when widescreen tv's came in, the tv's got bigger however the resolution of the image was still the same so it would look sharped on the smaller tv.

    basicly the same effect applies to larger screens, although 1920x1080 is a nice resolution and u would need a fairly big screen to start gettin a streched looking image.

    What it comes down to is the signal from the laptop and workload is the same regardless of the size of screen.
     
  8. DarthPierce

    DarthPierce Notebook Consultant

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    no, it's resolution, not size.

    A screen that is 1920x1080 pixels (1080p) has *exactly* the same amount of data that needs to be calculated regardless of size. It doesn't matter if it's a 5 inch screen or a 50 foot projector, if it's 1920x1080 it's the same data. The video card doesn't know or care what the physical size is... just the resolution.

    Edit: DarkX beat me.
     
  9. ceta

    ceta Notebook Enthusiast

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    So you need a 1.4 hdmi cable to play 3D content? I have tried connecting the m17x to my panasonic 3D tv only to have it display an error saying something like, "warning: attempt to run stereoscopic 3D in a non-stereo display mode, please change to an acceptable mode."
     
  10. DarkXeRoX

    DarkXeRoX Notebook Consultant

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    i think i saw something about this,

    needed to select a specific 3d resolution or so for it to work forgot what it is tho but it was somewhere on these forums, i'll try to see if i can find it tomorrow as im about to head off for the night
     
  11. orionz

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    OK...I'll likely be sorry for stepping into this morass...but here's what works for me. Pls note sig line...I'm using an M17XR1 to do this so it may or may not apply to R3.

    I'm using a SAMSUNG UN55D8000 LED (edgelit) TV as a display. FIRST: It appears from my research that ANY recent HDMI cable labeled "HDMI 1.4" or "High Speed" should work...mine is SONY & labeled "high speed" and works fine. SECOND: you need to buy glasses appropriate to your TV as it (not the lappy) will now do the 3D decoding. THIRD: You will need a 3D playback app. I use PowerDVD10 Ultra 3D. There are others. FOURTH (and most comlicated): You will need most or all of an evening in front of the lappy and TV (with documentation...which is usually very imprecise if not outright misleading) playing with settings on first the player software and then the TV to get the two to talk to each other and decode the 3D material. MOST important is the format your player s/w allows you to output i.e. side-by-side top-bottom checkerboard etc. Mine will not allow top-bottom or side-by-side so checkerboard is the way to go for me but not all TV's will do it and even with a high end one like mine GETTING it to do it is not easy. I had to make a checklist! LOL!

    If I haven't totally turned you off of this yet; I can say that even with my R1 and GTX-280M's the 3D effect is pretty cool! Better for some films than others...but still pretty darn cool!

    Have fun!
     
  12. vads24

    vads24 Notebook Evangelist

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    I really appreciate all of your inputs so far...I gather its heading in the positive direction..Please keep posting and your suggestions especially from personal experience too. I believe this thread will collectively be of great usefulness for many. As sooner or later...the 3DTV price will come down and slowly more and more users will get one.

    Yes its true we would most likely use an external player for 3DTV tv..but when it comes to ripped and downloaded content the notebook's ability to play it outright becomes apparently useful.

    Thank you once again....