Poll: 6970M w/ 60Hz vs. 460M w/ 120Hz

Hey folks,

Since the main topic about the R3 right now is the debate between 6970M and 60Hz vs. 460M and 120Hz 3D, I would like to make a poll to see if which one if more preferred in general. Also, I think this would help people who are still deciding have a better idea.

I also added the processor and color options since this is also my concern. My roommate has a black R2 but I dont personally like it. However, the black R3 (as I saw in Mandrake's photos) seems to be better.

It would be great if you include reasons for supporting your decisions.

I personally use the laptop for gaming (not hard core game) and photo editting, so nVidia is better to me.

 

The 6970 is twice faster than the GTX460 if you ask me a 460 is not a good idea , also old thech.

the battery life is more apealing than 3D because lets face it how many times you will use those glasses 2 times after you get tired?

is just my opinion because i use 3D before and is amazing but you not always on the move to go to all the steps involved

i almost forget this is the specs i order this morning
i7 2720QM
HD6970
Black

 

nuff said

Space Black
I7 2720qm
Ati 6970

 

Does anyone know how much better the Sandy Bridge is for photo/video editing purpose? What I know for now is sandy bridge + IGP is faster than the old i7 + GPU, is that right? And if I get 6970M but then disable the IGP, will it affect the photo/video work? (I think so because the GPU actually does not have much to do with photo editing.

Thanks !

 

you know what is the bad part about that the 6970 and 2720 are going to be on backorder soon

 

Did you bite???

 

lets put is this way the intel IGP is on par with the nvidia 320M on almost everything so that is enough for light video editing but idf you need true power you can use the 6970 instead

 

Agree. I dont need 3D (its nice, just not necessary to me) but I like the 120Hz Plus, for photo editing, I heard that nVidia is more friendly supported than ATI.
For battery life, yeah, that the biggest minus point since you wont be able to use the IGP. That is also my concern right now. If you cannot use IGP with 120Hz, will it slow down the photo editing work? Because the Sandy Bridge's advantage is the IGP in it, right?

 

Interesting. Space Black is right now dominating. Black in rubber finish does look better than aluminum, doesn't it?

Thanks Gonzalez. Actually what Im wondering is the performance between Sandy Bridge + IGP vs. SB + GPU for photo/video work.

 

120Hz is nice but not necessary for gaming or editing i use 120Hz screens before and always go back to my IPS panel because the quality of the screen is more important at the end color reproduction ,viewing angles , and brightness is more important than 3D and 120Hz

 

that is a lot of difference there because you talking about a low end GPU vs the 6970 and that don't have comparision because the 6970 is like 10 times faster than the IGP and all you get from using the IGP is battery life but i don't know how well it would handle your aplications for photo or video editing

but i am sure you won't be disapointed with the 6970 and sandy because we talking about desktop performance

 

Interesting. The 120Hz is just smoother, isnt it? Anyway, the 60Hz full HD is still gorgeous, according to some reviews. You make me lean toward the 60Hz now I wish AW put IPS display on their laptop just like HP's dream color.

Any idea about the "super" glossy on R3?

 

Gonzalez, AFAIK the photo work does not require a high end GPU. Processor and RAM is more essential.

I dont know, but what do you think about this

YouTube - Performance Demo of Sandy Bridge 2nd Core Generation vs. Core i7

 

I don't like the glossy glass on the screen and i know a lot of people think the same but what can we do? i remove the glass on a M17X r2 but just because i had accidental warranty before but i am sure no body will do that and loose their warrantys

that's why i acept the glossy screen now because you can't have it all the r3 is amazing for other things like design and power so....

 

i see, in that case you covered and that video answer your questions of how the IGP performs i like so much the idea of battery life because my last laptop was a Clevo and i know a lot of people like that too is nice that you can still work with your laptop unpluged and i see a lot of future on that

companys should focus on battery life like Mac but also on performance like the R3 the best of both worlds

 

I saw your white R2 with "matte" screen, lol. Understood how much you hate glossy screen, haha.
And yeah, so do I, that's why I have an external monitor for my work. Glossy screen just make my eyes tired so quickly. Plus, you can always buy an external 120Hz monitor with 3D capable later when its more popular and cheaper, right?

 

It is worth noting that the 3D configuration with 460M is $250 cheaper than the equivalent non-3D with 6970M (adding Bluray and 1920x1080 screen).

 

Said it in another thread myself.

"Unless you plan on using 3d or becoming the next big pro gamer 120hz isnt really worth it"

Only place 120hz non 3D really shines is in stupidly fast paced FPS games.

I personally went 6970m (60hz) + Black + 2720. I REALLY Wanted to go for the red system but I figured I'd "outgrow it" and stop thinking it was neat in a few months and wish I went for the classy black.

...That could be mainly because of the Blu-Ray adding $150? +$100 for the amount of FPS increase you get is nothing.. If you think thats a large amount you better stay away from overclock.net, where people (including me) have dropped $1000+ to get an extra 10-15% performance increase.

 

it definitely is worth noting.


Heres the beef with the options.

1. Nvidia is obviously trying to push 3d. we can 'assume' safely that they are giving a GREAT price to Dell for the setup (120hz/3d goggles/transmitter etc) which is why dell offers it for cheap.

Thus making it harder for us to choose.

I dont need bluray and in a month with my r3 i havent used 3d ONCE. I do love the 120hz though. a coworker of mine has an r2 (hes right beside me) and while I still dont see why rgb is such a big deal my screen is epic smooth in wow vs his and he pointed it out almost immediately.

Im still choosing the 6970. if anything its tempting me to try some of these more graphically intense games. It also will keep my frames pinned at 60 with v sync or higher without when Im doing arena in wow and pvp where it can get really intense. My 460 struggles a little in arena to keep frames above 80-100 but still looks great.

 

2720
6970
Black

The 3D was pointless to me.. even beyond the headaches from wearing the glasses, it has very little applicability to me

The 120Hz was a bigger issue, but my thinking was that at 1080p, the 460M is likely to be below 60Hz more often than the 6970, which means the 460M configuration won't get to use the full benefit of 120Hz as much, unless I'm playing really old games

Add on the extra battery life on the 6970 and it was sealed

 

why 2720QM? not 2820QM if don't compare by price.

 

the difference is a miraculous .1 ghz in base speed and turbo boost. It's very very insignificant and the extra cache is only going to be noticed by someone who is doing insane video editing or something very very intensive. If you have the money to burn, or have the machine written off as an expense or anything of the sort go for it. otherwise the 2720 is the smartest buy.

the 2630 is an absolute waste i feel sorry for anyone getting it. it doesnt even support 1600 xmp memory. Why go for a slower proc that doesnt allow better memory too? for $150 it should be on EVERY alienware buyers spec sheet.

 

2720 and 2820's performances are actually very close. It might not worth $200 upgrade.

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

 

Any word about Black/Red color ???