QX9200/QX9300 temps.

I snagged one of the intel ES quadcores (QAVR) off of Ebay from Laptopmonkey, and so far i'm pretty darn pleased with it considering it was only 250 bucks. I haven't had a chance yet to do serious testing, but it appears as though 3.33ghz is stable at about 1.325v.

I had no problems with running prime95 for 30 minutes without errors at that speed. However, my temps were getting into the low 90's. Is this about what I should expect for that speed/voltage? My t9600 never broke 75C clocked at 3.4. I know the quadcores run hotter, but I was thinking low-mid 80's maybe. I used AS5 when I installed it, should i maybe redo the tp, or is this just how it goes with these CPU's?

Seems mostly fine for gaming at that speed at least, it stayed below 70 in Wow and SC2.

edit: Here is a link to Laptopmonkey's current ebay auction. The one's he sells are legit. There are a couple of examples of what they are capable of a few posts down.

http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-CORE-QUAD...100-/140519303760?pt=CPUs&hash=item20b79a6a50

 

Prime95 is a stress-testing program that is intended to get the CPU very hot. Your TIM is probably fine. The 9300 is supposed to run at 2.53Ghz, so you've got overclocked and overvolted. If the CPU gets that hot under normal gaming load (or whatever you use the laptop for), then you should back it off a bit. Mine wouldn't run at 3.33Ghz with any stability. The same goes for FurMark on graphics cards. No game is likely to get the cards that hot. They're both worst-case-scenario programs. Low 90s on that kind of overclock and overvolt after 30 minutes of Prime is a good thing. You know it will never get that hot doing anything else.

 

30min at 3.33ghz is not a good indication of stability. I'd run it for several hours - like 6+ to ensure it's stable. My i7 820qm seemed stable at 2.4ghz when I tested prime 95 on it for about an hour and got no errors. It turned out it wasn't stable. Occasionally it'd mess up in everday usage. I ran the test again for 8 hours and got several errors.

 

oh i know. Like i said, I haven't had a good chance to really put it through its paces. It was just a quick test to see if it could handle that speed at all. I was making a bit of an assumption based on seeing what other people have achieved.

 

hi, i was looking for this chip for my laptop, could you post a cpu-z screen @default clock? ebay auction didn't give much information... thanks

 

Here's an example of what a QAVR can do.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/6897990-post515.html

CPU-Z often times reports them incorrectly as a SP9400. The QX9200 is identical to a QX9300 except the default multiplier is 0.5 less so it will be rated at 2.40 GHz instead of 2.53 GHz and will have a default 9.0 multiplier instead of 9.5. It will take you about 2 seconds to unlock this CPU and bump the multiplier up to 9.5 or as high as you like by using ThrottleStop.

The L2 cache, etc., etc. are the exact same as the QX9300. The CPU-Z specification box, which reads information directly from the CPU, usually doesn't show any model number. It will show the rated 2.40GHz speed.

Get a QAVR off of Ebay and you will get what you're looking for. The QAJF are similar but don't have functioning temperature sensors as far as I know so avoid them.

 

This is what I managed with mine.



While those temps/vcore are way to high for normal use, I've found that 3.2ghz/1.3vcore (1218 fsb/10.5x multi) is fine for normal usage. I've never seen temps in the 80's at those settings, even after an hour of bfbc2.

3.5ghz/1.4v is doable and stays below 80 for most games that i've played. I've read that 1.4v is the absolute highest you'd want to go for normal usage, assuming your temps are in check. setting vcore that high will reduce the life of your CPU, but we're still talking 4-5 years of life most likely. Plus, with Throttlestop you can setup different multi/vcore profiles so that it only runs at those settings when you want it to. For anything other than games, a 6x multi and 1.05vcore is perfectly fine for me.

edit: just look at that cpuz snapshot, and replace the clockspeed/multi/vcore with 2400/9/1.165 for how it looks at stock speed.

 

chip arrived yesterday, works like a charm, and the hp hdx i'm using it with allows for a small multiplier overclock (up to 10x266 on heavy load)... even throttlestop won't make me pick a higher multiplier, so it's almost certainly bios-bound... all in all i'm very happy, i switched a 2core 2,53 ghz with a 4core 2,66 ghz thanks for the links and the impressions

 

throttlestop WILL let you choose higher that what's what TT is for and not only!

 

i don't have an alienware i have an hdx by HP, and as i said it's bios-bound, i was never able to modify the cpu clock... and now i can choose a multiplier only in the 6-10 range, but the cpu can reach 10x266 without throttlestop, i just saw it... so no overclock for my laptop

 

did you Unlock it in TT?

 

Who did you buy your Q9200 from? I sent Laptopmonkey a message, as it doesn't look like he has any more.

 

I have a OEM QX9300 and didn't bought it from laptopmonkey

 

gi0v3: Click on the UNLK button in ThrottleStop to unlock the multiplier and let that CPU come alive. When using ThrottleStop, you don't need any bios support to increase the multiplier as high as you like. TS lets you increase the VID voltage too if you need a little more to keep it stable.

 

unclewebb, thanks for making ThrottleStop

 

damn, that sucks. I'm now extra glad i grabbed one when I did.

 

bought it from laptopmonkey about 10 days ago, for what i've seen their availability of qavr qx9200s comes and goes... maybe you'll just have to wait a few weeks, and when you'll see the auctions again, you can try to get some discount... the suggested buy me now price is always the same, but you can make a counterproposal and get a lower price... i bought mine for 20$ less

i downloaded the old version (2.89) so i couldn't see the buttons :\ just downloaded the last one, i'm still making some tests, but i can achieve easily 3,00 ghz... TS is just amazing!!! i have one OT question: if i were to buy a Llano laptop later this year (you know, next gen's amd APU, 2to 4 cores, gpu in the mobile 5730s range) would TS work on that too? are you planning on extending compatibility also to amd cpus?

 

^^ See,there you go! On the old one you had to right click the window(good idea).

 

What is safe temperature for Qx 9200 when overclock ?

 

i think anything below 80c is ok. Mine gets into the low-mid 80's on a couple of games that i play with my highest TS profile, but im not gonna stress over it. I don't imagine this will shorten the life-span of the CPU enough that it will die before i stop using this laptop. Plus it wasn't a huge investment really.

id like to hear some other opinions on it though. These things do get a little warm since they need more vcore than the qx9300 to get a good OC.

on mine [email protected] seems like a safe OC, I usually don't even see temps in the 70's in most games. I have a profile that i use sometimes that's set at [email protected], this is the one i was talking about that gets me into the 80's. It's the very highest settings that i would dare run a game with and I only run it on SC2 and Wow.

 

Thanks for your advise. I created 3 profiles in ThrottleStop:

1. Minimum use: multipiler x6 (temperature ~ 60 C degree when fullload)
2. All for games : multipiler x 11 (temperature ~ 81 C degree when fullload)
3. Starcraft 2: multipiler x 12x5 temperature ~ 85 C degree when fullload)

 

I haven't owned or had regular access to any AMD CPUs for years. I really liked the last AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition I used for a friend's new computer. It was simple to overclock and to unlock both of the hidden cores. It's not much fun trying to develop quality software unless I have access to lots of different hardware so ThrottleStop will remain Intel only.

 

what kind of vcore you using with those settings? also, what kind of tp did you use? @ 11x i barely break 70's, that seems a little warm.

 

I use thermal grease MX-3.

@11x I set vcore is 1.2370 when fulload temperature ~ 83 C degree ( when I set vcore is 1.2250 same you I run prime95 error)
@9x I set vcore is 1.0750 when fulload temperature ~75 C degree
@6x I set vcore is 1.0500 when fulload temperature ~ 60 C degree
@12.5x I set vcore is 1.3500 when fulload temperature ~ 85 C degree

Can you give me advise for set vcore ?

 

now that you mention it, 1.2250 makes prime95 crash for me after a minute or 2. My vcore settings are identical to yours. Are those prime95 temps or just temps from gaming? I get into the 90's on a couple of cores @ 12.5x/1.35v with prime95. I'm using AS5. If those are prime95 numbers, then i may want to get some new tp.

 

Oh I knew it. The temp fulload when use Prime95 . With the game temp so good. Thanks for your advise

 

Do you have a big variation in temps between cores with prime95? I've considered that maybe the sensors on a couple of my cores are off the mark. If i run Prime95, I see as much as an 8C difference between core 3 and core 1. I re pasted it once and got the same results. With [email protected] cores 2 and 3 hit low 90's, but cores 1 and 4 stay in the mid 80's.

I'm gonna order some MX-4 and see if it helps anything, if not, I think im just gonna not worry about it.

 

Hello there,

I am the laptopmonkey.

the Q9200 is back in stock again !

Cheers
Lee

 

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