RGB LED Calibrating! ICC Profiles, etc. (M17X-R2)

Inspired by Joker, I'd like to dedicate this thread to the RGB LED screen calibration?
The subject is very important and extensive so we could try and figure out the best way to do it
The factory calibration is really bad IMO but the potential of this screen is amazing.
So what do you think, guys?


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Note from AW Mod:

In addition to the ICC Profile methods discussed in this thread,
also be sure to check out the thread on using the CCC control panel
for those of you with AMD GPUs - see:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...ely-calibrating-m17x-r2s-rgb-led-via-ccc.html
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Well for starters you could try what in my opinion is the best ICC for the SXPS RGBLED as the screens are not too dissimilar gamut wise:

1) Download, remove .txt extension and double click on Mark's SXPS ICC

2) Go to Control Panel - Color Management - Click Add - Select "Spider2express ver2" and set it as default

3) Click Advanced tab - Click Change system defaults - Click Advanced tab - Tick Use windows display calibration

4) Disable Firefox colour management​

Now to stop ATI overriding the custom LUT values during full screen gaming carry out the following:

1) Make sure your favourite ICC is loaded and in use (as above)

2) Install PowerStrip and go to Color Profiles - Configure

3) To the right of where it says Linear gamma ramp there is a camera icon - click it and select Capture - save as whatever you want

4) Tick Apply adjustments to non-linear ramp and click Save as and save your new profile​

Now any game will use your ICC settings and look luuuurvly

I'm sure there are some M6500 RGBLED profiles which are a better match for your screen, I'll have a look. Couple of profiles on this page and this SXPS profile is also pretty good. Give them a go!

 

I may try this tomorrow.

EDIT: I tried it, the screen was very yellow-ish then I calibrated the display a bit but it didn't look as good as the original settings IMO. I don't think this is a good profile for this model screen.
+rep anyway.

 

This sure looks like a good tutorial!
It's a shame Europe still can't get those RGB led screens, else I would try it.

 

Is it possible to perfectly calibrate your screen without paying money for the tools like Spider3?
Can this level be achieved with a free software?

 

Not really as you can't calibrate to anywhere near the accuracy of a proper hardware calibrator with your eye.

 

Will the spyder3-express be enough to do the trick?

 

I think so yes but you should just double check that it supports wide gamut RGBLED displays first.

 

Powerstrip locks up my system as soon as I start it. Any ideas?

 

You could try this program instead but I couldn't get the font to display properly inside the program (even though I was running at 100% DPI). It's supposed to do the same thing and stop the ATI drivers from overwriting the LUT when running full screen 3D:

Monitor Calibration Wizard

 

I tried the Samsung calibration program and got a profile out of it. Not sure if it will look much different than default for you guys but give it a try, the gamma values are changed. Put it in the Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color folder.


Edit: removed the file, this one wasn't very good. See my other posts in this thread for a better working profile.

 

I found by using the CCC, setting gamma to 0.90 and saturation to 0.80 it gives better color accuracy especially with reds.

 

i had my friend install jokers config on his r2 and he said it makes the crazy red tint go away and colors look quite a bit more accurate. good job Joker!

 

Didn't seem to make much of a difference to me. The settings I used above in the Catalyst Control Center are working very noticeably well though. I suggest you guys give it a try at some point.

 

crylo.
it the ccc under color i don't see the option for gamma 90 and saturation 80...

 

Open the Catalyst Control Center, in the top left hand corner click on Graphics and go to desktop properties and click the color tab. Set Gamma to 0.85 (all channels) and hit apply, then click graphics again on the top left and go to desktops and displays. Right click on the little laptop icon at the bottom left and select configure, then go to the color tab (or Avivo tab depending on what driver you are using) and set Hue to -5 and Saturation to 85 and hit apply.

You now have a nicely configured and natural looking RGB LED screen!

 

thanks man
i was confused because it was .90!

 

Looks good, Crylo.
Now, do you notice the different white hues (upper-left yellowish, upper-right slightly pinkish)?

 

Not to my eyes, you do?

 

I do see a slight difference between left and right upper corners if the background is white.

 

Mine's perfect. Maybe there is something wrong with your screen?

 

Then Dell will be sending a new one shortly along with the 4870s

 

No problem, I edited my post to make it more clear.

 

I've got it pretty accurate and well balanced now. I like these current settings so much that I've decided to keep them, I will give other profiles a try if someone comes up with one but for now I'm sticking with this.

Using CCC I have Gamma set to 0.90, Hue at -5 and Saturation at 85. I've spent a couple hours tinkering with different settings, and in the end this is the most accurate I've seen, I would recommend people to give it a try. Let me know what you think.

 

Crylo
Thanks for the info. Did you keep brightness at 0 and contrast at 100? thanks

 

Everything is at stock except the values I changed.

 

Mine is that way as well...

 

Can someone post some pics? Before and After, does the screen now have less reds and saturation?

 

This worked pretty well for me.
I just tweaked it to.85 gamma Hue -3 & saturation the same at 85.
I just tend to like a lil bit of a darker image. but all in all pretty true & accurate picture now.

+1 Rep!

 

Mine looks better too - i had been wondering how to turn the red down a little - my desktop theme is Ducati motorcycles and the reds were way too red...

much better!!

 

I'm glad this is helping people get accurate colors, and thanks for the +rep guys, it's much appreciated.

 

Got some confirmation from two pro graphics designers that have RGB LED and IPS screens as a must for their work, that those hues on the RGB LEDs are totally normal and we shouldn't worry about.
In addition, they don't recommend buying the expensive tools for calibrating, as you can do a decent job with the W7' built-in calibrator.

 

W7 cal seems good to me Aikimox.From what i read in the past reviews on the Spyder 3 were mixed & only 1/3 out the box were accurate enough to provide a proper cal.

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16756

 

QUOTE:

Originally Posted by Orev:
For everyone looking for the FHD, remember that it is a WIDE GAMUT screen. This will make most colors look wrong in non-color managed apps (which is most of them). If you're a Photoshop guy and know all about this, then you know what you're getting into, however if you're not, you may be very disappointed with the colors on the screen. Make sure to research "wide gamut" screens before ordering.

That's exactly what I feel when looking at my RGB LED. I'm getting used to it, 100%. But no amount of worshipping this screen from others will sway my conclusion: The colours look grotesque, to say the least. It doesn't mean I don't like it (I think this screen fits Alienware style 10000%), plus, it's zubba bright,...but that's just not my favourite screen.

 

My colors looked grotesque as well. Now they are impressive with the proper calibration. I can't say enough good things about this RGB when properly calibrated, it's nothing short of beautiful. (Not trying to sway you btw)

 

I like your profile (using it now btw). But I can't work on the R2 more than a couple of hours a day without straining my eyes too much. Plus, I compared it to an IPS monitor few days ago. I was shocked. The IPS is just 100% perfect. Remember when we talked about the CCFL vs RGB LED difference? So this time it's the IPS about the same level above the RGB LED. It's very expensive though...

However, IPS monitors are not as good for gaming, due to a slower response time and input lag...

 

Crylo, is this with Red selected in the "set color correction" panel or "all channels?"

Thanks man.

 

All channels. The -5 Hue and 85 saturation correct the red.

 

my saturation scale is 0-200 with 100 default. I assume 85 is the correct number? not .85?

 

Yes, 85 is the one.

 

Yeah it's 85. I made a mistake when posting it, I've since corrected that and also added a guide link in my signature to my earlier post explaining in more detail how to adjust the settings properly.

 

hey guys i don't have an M17x but i work with alot of rgb screens at work and i also do alot of printing so color calibration is very important. have you guy taken a look at screen calibrators such as an eye-one, i use that once every month or so to calibrate my screens at work. they are pretty expensive around like $200 but if getting exact colors is important to you then try it out. otherwise your colors will be hit and miss even with color software because nothing is actually measuring the color coming from your screen.

 

Guys, wow, it's just amazing! And sad. All that time I was using the poorly calibrated screen and complained a lot.
So at last I decided to play more with the W7 calibration tool and after adjusting the gray shades - whoa! This is one gorgeous screen. All the yellow and red hues disappeared! Plus, I lowered the gamma (as was suggested before) and it changed the overall look from adequate to unbelievable!
In fact the picture became...more alive? Whoa again!
I bet it could be further improved, but heck, it's already perfect.

 

Glad to hear you are enjoying this screen finally bro!
Are the settings you changed quantifiable or is it "which square do you like more?" type of thing?

 

This is what I got using the Windows 7 calibration tool, it looks pretty good to me. I adjusted the gamma/r/g/b to levels which I felt were pretty accurate. Gamma might seem a bit dark to some but overall I thought it was quite a bit better than default.

 

That's the case.

Lol, Joker our profiles look almost identical on my screen.

 

Ha that's cool. I think everyone should post their W7 profiles if they make significant adjustments. I like a more cool look to my whites than the exaggerated default red. I guess you do too.

 

noob question. How do you load the config file?

 

Upload via attachments as you would do with images.

 

Right click on the file and choose "install profile". You need to make it your default file by going into the control panel and adjusting the color management.