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    RGBLED vs Dual CCFL

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by mustang90, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. mustang90

    mustang90 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hello to all

    recently i wanna buy alienware lappie
    and i saw in alienware website that there are 2 kind of screen

    1.1440X900 (900p) dual ccfl
    2.1900X1200 (1200p) RGBLED (+200 bucks)

    besides RGBLED is more deeper and wider color gamut
    are there any particular difference ?

    my mainly use are most of it low resolution (old non hd movie , old games,typing,browsing ) , rarely play new games

    i know that LCD screen must use native resolution
    if not the pics will be inappropriate right ?
    but i also read it back then that LED screen could perform low res a lot better than LCD , kinda like CRT

    but this new 1200p RGBLED screen
    is it true LED screen that can perform like CRT ?
    or is it same like any other LCD ?
    do this new tech can perform low res let say 640X480 quite well ??

    thank you
     
  2. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Big differences besides resolution:

    1. RGB LED is much brighter (~315-320 nits)
    2. RGB LED has a >100% color gamut (but a distinct red tint)
    3. RGB LED has much better uniformity (little to no light bleed)
    4. The LED will not fade like CCFL.
    5. LED doesn't need time to warm up like CCFL.

    There's really no reason at all that I can think of to get the CCFL, it's a bad buy.
     
  3. goodstone

    goodstone Notebook Consultant

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    DITTO,


    The best investment i have ever made. Believe me get the RGB.

    It is worth the money.....
     
  4. Tazalanche

    Tazalanche Notebook Consultant

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    Same here. We previously had a M17x-R1 with the 1920x1200 CCFL LCD & my M17x-R2 with the 1920x1200 RGB LED LCD at the same time. Even with the brightness turned down on the RGB LED LCD to try to even them out, there was still a huge difference in picture quality.
     
  5. oneabove

    oneabove Notebook Consultant

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    RGB LED is just awesome (i know its a cliché but its true)... After u have experienced one, I bet you wouldnt want to downgrade to any CCFL or WLED... I cant even stand any other display when I go into PC stores here.. RGB is that good. and you dont have to reduce the resolution for ANYTHING to work properly in M17x with dual 5870mr... It will eat up anything (except some very few badly coded games... but once they release a patch that will be solved)... BTW RGB LED screen is basically a LCD screen with different Illumination (ie RGB LED backlighting) to that of CCFL LCD screens.... So no I dont think things would look good at non native resolution like any lcd sreen... And also with all the +ve points joker has already mentioned I cant even imagine people would get CCFL unless they have no guidance... DO NOT TRUST SALES REPS.... Hope you make the right choice and enjoy your rig once you get it... and also on a side note they might release an R3 model soon which might not have an RGB screen (unsure though)... check before you make your purchase if u intend to do it next week (ie if they release it then)...
    Cheers
     
  6. usshellfire

    usshellfire Notebook Consultant

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    only offered 1080P WLED here. what is that??? any idea?
     
  7. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    I can't imagine having any need to run a 640x480 res these days, I guess if you were playing Wolfenstein maybe :)

    Seriously, for period of time I had both the M15x-R2 with the standard display beside the M17x-R2 with the RGB LED, and side by side the difference was obvious even to the untrained eye... it is truly a slam dunk in terms of cost and quality of the display. Had the M15x-R2 had this as an option I doubt I would ever even have upgraded.
     
  8. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    The RGB LED is the reason I also got rid of my M15x for an M17x. Initially I wasn't interested in such a large computer but I caved because of the screen. Now I don't regret it one bit, I love the extra HDD bay, the number pad and bigger screen + crossfire.
     
  9. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    This too was my experience... when I pulled the M17x-R2 out and fired it up I was like "whoa this is sweet", never regretted moving up, even when my shoulder feels like it will fall off with it walking around because I know when I sit down to use it I will be happy with it.

    Now with the SSD-moves, the extra drive bay is turning out to be a nice plus; got a 60GB Vertex 2 to drop in as a boot/fast game drive.... then use the standard HHD for "mass storage".... kind of a distributed Momentus XT design :p

    But back on topic, if you have any doubt go to a retailer and try to find one next to a standard monitor with a decent picture to compare, there just is no doubt on the benefit vs. cost.
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    A couple of other points:

    1. RGB LED backlight will use less power.
    2. RGB LED backlight does not need an inverter which are prone to fail.
     
  11. 5abivt

    5abivt Notebook Consultant

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    Personally I love higher resolution. Everything is sharper and more crisp even though letters are smaller. It just makes it look like a precision screen. Even if the 19x1200 was ccfl and the crappies resolution rgb I'd go 19x1200.
     
  12. 5abivt

    5abivt Notebook Consultant

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    Lol wolfenstein. Epic game !
     
  13. dave-p

    dave-p Notebook Deity

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    and another Vote for RGB LED, it like comparing a Pinto to a Porshe
     
  14. mustang90

    mustang90 Notebook Enthusiast

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    wow everybody vote for RGB

    makes me wonder will dell makes 900p RGBLED ever?

    the thing is i think it is quite ridiculous to make so small pixels in such a small screen
    right now i am using sharp 19" lcd screen with 1366X768 res (720p)
    and the letters already quite small
    i cant imagine with 17" and 1900X1200 res (1200p)
    the letters will be like ants i guess

    anyone else think the same way or only me ?
     
  15. debaucher

    debaucher Notebook Deity

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    Just go into your personalization settings for your screen and set a custom resolution.
    I have mine set to 110% for the screen then in firefox I set the font size to 18.
    No problem for me after that.

    Oh, and I did notice things were looking a bit "blurry" at first even after I calibrated my monitor.... turns out I had the brightness set too low.
    So, while at first it was a bit of a shocker, I am now fine with the brightness and everything looks good.

    D.
     
  16. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    You can always increase font size in Windows without reducing the resolution ;)

    BTW, another vote for RGB LED and 1200P here :)
     
  17. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    I add my vote for the rgbled. I'm glad i have followed the info on this forum and went big. At the beginning i was also thinking about the 1440x900, a little bit worried about performance in game at 1920x1200 mostly..

    The dual 5870 will eat game for breakfast at 1200p, but i discovered this once i had the AW in my hands.

    go with RGB, you wont regreat it
     
  18. devillucifer

    devillucifer Notebook Consultant

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    I got both M6500 and M17x R1 so .. i can tell alittle about RGB LED vs CCFL :)

    RGB led response time is not as good as dual CCFL... turn the brightness to lowest then quickly switch it to max to see.
    RGB led give superior color, wider gamut but need to tweaked alot to get decent color ... if you dont know what to do its js an over saturated screen.
    And yes if you have a chance go for this screen.

    Imo ... when i looked at the two screen
    RGB give much higher brightness, but looked not so Sharp like others.
    and if you want to get good color you had to reduce it, and change the gamma factor.
    except HP 8740w (both m6500 and m17x R2 are Edge to Edge which is not so nice to work outdoor)

    On the other side : The dual CCFL
    m17x-R1 have a very nice contrast ratio of 1058:1
    but still somehow got ruined by the autocontrast ..
    And 2 good things about this screen is
    its a 8bits per primary color. (which is very nice gave you much better colors than average laptop : 6bits )
    It gave you 1.3 DeltaE which is super for a laptop.
    Alienware M17X mit 2CCFL 24 Bit CalibrationLog-20100310 11-09.pdf
    (calibrated by "Walter" from M6500's board)
     
  19. Necrotopsy

    Necrotopsy Notebook Consultant

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    maybe you want to see the two screens compared to each other.

    left is rgb right is ccfl both are the 1920x1200 res. one is an R1 and the other is an R2
    [​IMG]

    if you notice the rgb is so much brighter that my camera hard a hard time capturing it.
     
  20. mustang90

    mustang90 Notebook Enthusiast

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    from that pic the rgb is so much brighter
    but isnt that not so good for long time usage (eyes get red , tired , etc)

    so no one vote for ccfl ?

    then what about the possibility dell launch 900p rgbled
     
  21. bpat

    bpat Notebook Consultant

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    i don't know what to vote.
    My first one was with ccfl and this one rgb led.
    some of my games like bioshock2 looks cartoonisch, and for movies hmmm nja not so sharp as with ccfl, or maybe something wrong with my eyes :rolleyes:
     
  22. oneabove

    oneabove Notebook Consultant

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    I keep my brightness at around 40-60% most times except when my windows are open and the room is bright, I turn it all the way upto 100%...
     
  23. mustang90

    mustang90 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok guys i think ill go for rgb too
    thanks a lot for the opinions
     
  24. JaiaV

    JaiaV Notebook Evangelist

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    RGBLED. No point in going for less quality or resolution. Makes no sense..
     
  25. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    CCFL? rofl. Just... don't. :)