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    Should i change my order to the 3rd gen?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by SroieS, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. SroieS

    SroieS Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    i bought 2 weeks ago the m17x r4 with this spec

    Alienware M17X R4 with Soft Touch - Direct
    319-0583 1 2nd Generation Intel Core i7-2860QM (8MB Cache, up to 3.6GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
    317-9892 1 12GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz
    331-6912 1 English Keyboard, 101 Key, M17X R4
    320-3275 1 17.3-inch WideFHD1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED
    317-9894 1 2GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 675M
    342-4424 1 750GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s
    421-5830 1 Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1, English, w/Media
    318-2314 1 Stealth Black with Soft Touch Finish
    318-2005 1 Slot-Loading Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
    318-0424 1 Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
    430-4711 1 Intel Advanced-N WiFi Link 6250 a/g/n 2x2 MIMO Technology with WiMax and Bluetooth 4.0
    430-4706 1 Internal Wireless Bluetooth 4.0
    331-6868 1 Placement, M17X R4
    331-6867 1 Shipping Material, M17X R4 - Black

    Now should i re order with the 3rd gen ? or just leave it like it ?

    btw i will get the computer in the 22/5

    thank you for ur help
     
  2. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    Right now, i wouldn't buy a laptop without the 7970m in it. The 675 isn't even in the same league

    do you really need the laptop now? or can you wait a few more weeks? that's the question you have to ask yourself

    The IVY bridge CPU's + a 7970m GPU will indeed be better than what you have there, but you may be waiting till beginning of june for your laptop
     
  3. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Yes, cancel and get Ivy Bridge and a 7970M. Also settle for stock RAM and upgrade yourself.
     
  4. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    bro, cancel it asap, seriously cancel it please for the love of all..

    675m is about half the power of 7970m, IB is not a big improvement over SB for the time being, but 7970m is crazy better than 675m (3dmark11 at stock 7970m scored p5535 and 580m=675m scored p3521 in my computer, you see the difference..)
     
  5. SroieS

    SroieS Notebook Enthusiast

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    can i buy the 7970m and upgrade it myself after ?
    cuz i need the computer for studying...
     
  6. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    bro you are ending up spending a lot.. if you are rich definitely don't worry about it just go ahead :) but else, those bucks are important bro!
     
  7. SlickDude80

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    ya, you can upgrade the vid card later...many of us here have ugpraded vid cards. But its just more hassle and will end up costing you more cash as Grazt stated.

    BUt you are sooooo close to the next generation parts. You have to go next gen if you're buying now. Its just soooooo close. You'll be kicking yourself if you don't do it. Trust me.

    With regards to the GPU. Get the 7970m. For the slight cost difference, you have to get it. The performance will blow your mind
     
  8. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Yup, plus you haven't even received the laptop yet! Cancel it already.
     
  9. SroieS

    SroieS Notebook Enthusiast

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    so i should change the order to this :

    oftware & Services
    PROCESSOR 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3820QM (8MB Cache, up to 3.7GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0) edit
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Ultimate, 64bit edit
    MEMORY 16GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz (4DIMMS) edit
    HARD DRIVE 750GB 7,200 RPM + 32GB mSATA Caching SSD edit
    VIDEO CARD 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 7970M edit
    LCD PANEL 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED edit
    WIRELESS CARD Intel® Advanced-N WiFi Link 6250 a/g/n 2x2 MIMO Technology with WiMax and Bluetooth 4.0 edit
    INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE Slot-Loading Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW)

    ???
     
  10. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    you will love this laptop...
     
  11. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Get stock RAM and upgrade yourself. It will be cheaper and you can cherry pick better RAM, e.g. Kingston HyperX or Corsair Vengeance.

    Also a 3720QM is enough, why the extra power? The difference is not worth paying for.
     
  12. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Cancel that *female dog*! Also official statement by Alienware is that if you ordered recently with SB, you will get IB. However your GPU is lacking now compared to the 7970m
     
  13. SroieS

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    why not worth paying for the 3820QM ?

    also so i think i will cancel the order and reorder with the new spec and u all agree about to take the 6Gb and not the 16Gb ?
     
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    is this Alienware in the US or EU or where?

    Get the basic 6gigs or ram...then you upgrade later for a fraction of the cost. They are charging $75 to go from 6gigs to 8gigs of ram. This is VERY expensive. You are payiong $75 for 2gigs of ram?? You can get 8 gigs of ddr3 1600 right now for $45

    Also, even the base 3610 cpu is powerful. Spending another $150 for 300mhz speed increase might be ok. But $350 for 400mhz increase is expensive. The 3720 is the sweet spot. Even the 3610 is powerful enough that you could save the increase all together with the base CPU...then upgrade to an extreme processor later if you need more

    AND BTW, if this is in the US, they are charging $150 more for the gtx 675?? This is a joke. The 7970m is brand new tech and i've seen anywhere from a 50-100% performance increase in my testing over the 580m/675m. The gtx 675m is nothing more than a 580m that has been renamed. It is much slower than the 7970m. Don't equate cost with the best performance because you will lose here
     
  15. SroieS

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    USA although i live in Europe it just that they don't ship to my country....

    so i will buy the 3720 with the 6igbs and the 7970m

    also one Q' the 750GB 7,200 RPM + 32GB mSATA Caching SSD is worth buying right ?
     
  16. Xanius

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    I think the ram upgrade might not be a bad idea for him. If he is new to laptops he may not feel comfortable pulling the keyboard out of his brand new $2000+ laptop to add it himself. I know it is a lot less money to do it yourself, but not everyone is comfortable doing it on their own. Unless you can just stick 2 8gb sticks in the bottom (which I think you can now) then it is really easy. The 7970m is a no brainer and is less expensive at lead on the Canadian site.
     
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    i try to compare the price between the Canadian site to USA and in USA it a lot cheaper the total computer...
     
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    yes, Canadian's have to pay more for some stupid reason. BUt we have some resellers we can go through to save and get deals

    Doesn't really make sense when the Canadian dollar is worth more than the US greenback is right now
     
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    SroieS Notebook Enthusiast

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    hmm can u tell me from what resellers exactly and how much +- it will save me cuz i got famliy in Canada so maybe better for me that they will buy me the computer...

    btw sry for my EN it's not my first language
     
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    resellers like reflexnotebook.ca will give you 10% off the dell website pricing. You might be able to push them to 13%. Thats the discount i got. They have a 20% margin from dell so its easy for them to do that. I couldn't get more than 13% because they have to pay a 3% creditcard fee so they only made 4% on me. You still go through dell for warranty. You just order the laptop through them instead of the dell website. However, there is a HST tax you have to pay here in Canada.

    SO

    in the end, its still cheaper buying from the US dell website

    but you can check it out just to compare. When all is said and done, you are still looking around $2K regardless where you buy it from + or - a few hundred.
     
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    yea it cost me over 3k.... cuz i need to ship it to israel... anyway what about the 750GB 7,200 RPM + 32GB mSATA Caching SSD is worth buying right ?
     
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    So am I getting the ib or sb? I've read through website and I'm getting conflicting stories
    Placed the order on 4/24 w/sb...
     
  23. Brabostaan

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    If you ordered the M17x R4 you will get IB.
     
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    Even though it says sb on my email confirm..?
     
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    And yes I've ordered the r4 version
     
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    Yep. Dont worry about it.
     
  27. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Yep, Alienware on their facebook page and the Dell rep on the forums have confirmed that those who ordered before Ivy Bridge hit the pages, will be bumped to Ivy automatically.
     
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    Sorry to be a pesk but what am I getting than if I've ordered:
    M17x r4
    2nd gen i7 2670qm
    8gb ram
    2gb gddr5 Amd
     
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    i7 3610QM. 200mhz higher clocks on base and turbo if I'm correct.
     
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    Thanks Brabostaan and widezu69!! I appreciate your help.
     
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    if i order the 2860qm what will i get ?
     
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    A gerbil. xD
     
  33. Brabostaan

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    The 3820QM base 2.7 and turbo 3.7.
     
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    Any idea about 2760QM?
     
  35. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Probably a 3720QM.
     
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    you mean 3720?
     
  37. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Yep edited my mistake lol :rolleyes: