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    System temp

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by lichensoul, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey all I think i might have a tempature issue. My master GPU has been getting close to 90 deg under load. My proccesor with the 5% over clock get close to 90 deg. Evem my idle temp seem a bit high to me. Here is a pic for what is happening.

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    I do use a nzxt cryo cooler with my laptop also.

    Any thought on how to cool off a bit?
     
  2. TurbodTalon

    TurbodTalon Notebook Virtuoso

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    How long has it been since you cleaned out the heat sinks? If it has been more than a couple of months, I'll bet that's your culprit. Even your idle temps are a bit high.
     
  3. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    I just got this computer in January. I blow it out once a week.

    Im just really confused on why it seem to high on the temp range.
     
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    When you say that you blow it out, do you mean that you use compressed air or the equivalent? That's not a viable solution. You should open it up and properly clean the heatsinks. To access the CPU heatsink/fan, all you must do is remove the bottom cover. You'll see the fan there; remove the screws holding it in, as well as the power connector. If that is squeaky clean, then a repaste might be in order. Let us know what you find.
     
  5. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    I do use caned air you blow it out. I do also take it apart to clean it also one a month. It has been 2 weeks since I have do it. But the temps that I posted have been the same ones since i got the PC.

    I think I will do a repaste and see if that helps. I have a couple of questions before I do it though.
    Shuold I repaste the CPU and GPU?

    Is Artic Silver 5 ok to do this with? (It is what I have atm here)

    Also, I have heard that the thermal pads are to thick in this system so should I use more paste to make up for that diffrence? How much paste should I use?

    Thanks again!!
     
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    Yes, AS5 will work just fine. It's all I use. You need to just use a small dot of it right in the center of the CPU or GPU die. The heatsink will spread it around. No, you don't use paste with pads. No matter how much paste you use, the heatsink will squeeze what it doesn't need out the sides. That's not something you want to do with AS5. Just use a small dot. Wherever you have pads, leave them alone. You can order better pads, just make sure to get the proper thickness. See what a repaste does for you.
     
  7. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    I did not mean using paste on the pads. But thanks for the reminder. Thanks for your quick responses Turbo +rep I will do a repaste of the gpus and cpu right now and post back my results.
     
  8. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    So after a repaste my Cpu high temps where 75-83 gpu toped out at 85. Witch is a imporvment. Idle temp droped a little to 40-44 for cpu and 36-33 for the gpu.

    It is nice to have them a little lower but they still seem a little high to me.
     
  9. ils

    ils Notebook Consultant

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    Quick question: besides the 5% OC in the BIOS, do you have anything else boosting the power of the CPU? I noticed the picture show (max): 96.775 W for CPU Core.
    GPU: MemIO is usually has higher reading than DispIO and Shader. I took out the thermal pads and put a good size drop of AS5 on each chip. It's working for me. My idle temperature for both cards are between 30 to 34 C (across all three: DispIO, MemIO, and Shader). Underload (depends on which game or test program), the maximum readings are hovering in the mid. 70s C.
    CPU: Try this link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/530618-new-i7-940xm-es-installed-4.html#post6880976. My CPU idle in the low 30s C.

    BTW: I don't use any cooling pad (don't need it for very little to no help in cooling the system; in my case anyway).
     
  10. lichensoul

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    No there was nothing else overclocking. The test was done with 3dmark 06. I am not to sure I want to mess with puting AC5 in the chips as AC5 is a conductive paste. I might try to get a non cundutive paste and try that on them that should help also. Thanks for the input.
     
  11. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    Since i saw this so many time, for sake of information, AS5 is not conductive, it's capacitive. It can give problem of course but it's much safer than many may think
     
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    I have AS5 on all of my memory chips, and have for several months now. The trick is to not use too much (which isn't a trick, it's common sense). I've got the retention mod as well the part of my heatsinks removed that causes them not to sit evenly on the memory and GPU die.
     
  13. lichensoul

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    Well after repasting my memory chips on my video cards the max i ahve seen is 69 degrees on vido and 75 on cpu.

    I think that is a bit of improvment.
     
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    THIS also is worth looking into.
     
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    If you do a re-paste on the CPU and 5870 GPU's and what also to replace the thermal pads on the GPU's memory chips, what thermal pad thickness, size and where can they be got in the UK?
     
  16. lichensoul

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    I did not use thermal pads I just put a very small amount of Artic silver 5 on each chip. Not enough to spread over the edges however. I also put the original thermal pads in a ziplock baggie, so that i can put them back on if i need to have the card replaced for some reason.