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    TRIM coming to RAID0 setups in new Intel RST

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by widezu69, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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  2. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    **sigh** after I just spent weeks reinstalling everything to a split dual SSD array. I'm not going back now. I have one OS/Apps SSD, and one Gaming SSD, and a storage drive. The SSD RAID 0 really didn't make a noticable differance.

    Nice find though.
     
  3. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    if you're already running fast SSD's, why risk RAID0? Raid0 is one of the riskiest things you can do. Hard drives fail all the time...one drive fails in your raid0 and you lose everything
     
  4. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    I totally agree with the danger in RAID0, but I store my important files on a separate drive so there is no risk related to RAID0 in my case. It is nice to see an update to RST is adding the TRIM functionality for RAID0.

    As I see it, purchasing two SSD drives in the 128Gb range for the same or less than one 256Gb SSD and having the increased read/write speeds is a win-win situation. I am having to install most of my games and apps to a 750GB drive as it is because 128Gb is simply too small. Having everything installed to SSD would be nice, but I am not willing to pay the ludicrous prices that larger SSD drives are fetching... highway robbery, LOL.

    I will wait on the RST update and see how well it works for the early adopters. If it's not buggy, I may move my BluRay burner to a eSATA or USB enclosure and use the internal optical bay for my (data) drive as DR650SE has in his setup.
     
  5. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Yea, The fast writes are nice, though I didn't notice too much of a change from RAID 0 to a seperate SSD> BUt thats mainly for my own stuff. However, I kept RAID 0 for a while because I'm constantly making backups of both my OS/Apps drive and my storage drive (1TB). Now instead of imaging two drives, I create image of three. OS/Apps, gaming drive, and storage drive. Makes me kinda wish I had all the money in the world to sink in to an X7200 for. Run three SSDs in RAID 0 :D
     
  6. worldedit

    worldedit Notebook Consultant

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    i use raid-0 with intel gen1 after 5 years the both drive serve me well, recently intel RST report faulty on 1 drive, and finally i upgrade to kingston hyper x 240gb and i feel that no need raid-0 for sata 3 drive... it already fast enug :D

    btw.. glad to know that raid is support trim ..
     
  7. pyr0

    pyr0 100% laptop dynamite

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    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    so 4 months left to wait?
     
  9. pyr0

    pyr0 100% laptop dynamite

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    In the worst case.
     
  10. Jus71n

    Jus71n Notebook Consultant

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    Sounds good to me, just installed a raid 0 system on mine :)

    Back up on a regular basis to an external drive so if they fail i don't lose to much data.......
     
  11. Douse

    Douse Notebook Deity

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    Congrats man, notice any improvement compared to your single SSD setup?
     
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    Volkly Notebook Enthusiast

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    I really didn't notice any real life usage difference on my part in ssd raid 0 with 2 hyperx 120gb. True the diskmark is insane, but running crysis, mw3, or wow, didn't notice a big difference in load speed, like maybe 1 or 2 second faster.
    Went back to single ssd with the 750gb as storage to get trim support
     
  13. aldam

    aldam Notebook Evangelist

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    Really ?
    No differences?

    I've just bought two samsung ssds for raid 0 :/
     
  14. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Not visually at all.
     
  15. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    WEll SSDs are fast in themselves, Boot time was maybe a few sec quicker, but to me it just wasn't worth losing TRIM over. Awesome for bragging rights though, Check out the numbers in my sig raid link :p
     
  16. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    RAID 0 SSD would be useful if you copy huge files...but most users can't tell the difference between SATA 1 and SATA 3 SSD...not to mention RAID 0 SSDs lol.

    If your SSD has a controller that can deal with GC without TRIM (Intel G1, old school Samsung SSDs) then IMO it's not an issue. It's newer SSDs that can't handle GC without TRIM that are going to be in trouble. Hence I always found those Sony Z series with RAID 0 SSDs pointless.

    But I have a setup like DR650SE. My OS is on the 120 GB which has like 80 GB left and my games are on the 160 GB SSD. Love having dual SSDs. :D
     
  17. aldam

    aldam Notebook Evangelist

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    DR650
    I saw the number. That's why I bought the second ssd.
    Now I have two samsung 128gb ssds...
    If there is no diffrences (or little) maybe I'll install one ssd for os and app, and the second one for games.

    I saw also this
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...e-using-optical-bay-caddy-36.html#post7012621

    Could you please show me the picture of your laptop. The side of the laptop where this caddy is installed. Is there a hole in the place where the DVD was?
     
  18. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Yea, the slot is still there, but it doesn't look like a huge hole. Look slike it did before. I have a few pics of it in my sig (1TB internal)
     
  19. Douse

    Douse Notebook Deity

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    Slot caddy mod was actually more involved then I thought it was going to be! Worth it though, for the extra storage.