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    The First M17x R2 BIOS mod. Need suggestions for future mods.

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by goodstone, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. BlackSad38

    BlackSad38 Newbie

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    A new BIOS (V2) soon ?
    Release date?

    Ty .
     
  2. Necrotopsy

    Necrotopsy Notebook Consultant

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    hmm i wonder if there is any new news :O
     
  3. Digital1337

    Digital1337 Notebook Evangelist

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    Im just curious , how the MODed BIOS readable in apps such as CPU-Z, HWInfo32 ...
     
  4. Necrotopsy

    Necrotopsy Notebook Consultant

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    in cpu-z it still says

    Alienware
    A10
    1/17/11
     
  5. gl2009

    gl2009 Notebook Guru

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    Will this mod enable port multiplier on the esata?

    I can't tell from looking at the Sata Control Menu screenshot
     
  6. DanXbix

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    I noticed in the mod bios there is an option to turn port multi on :) not sure if it works
     
  7. gl2009

    gl2009 Notebook Guru

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    I would really like to know if this mod can enable port multiplier on the esata.

    That would be awesome, I would love to get one of those multi drive JBOD esata boxes that require esata port multiplier.
     
  8. Predator4rmMars

    Predator4rmMars Notebook Evangelist

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    @TheWiz

    A big thanks to you guys for taking that extra step in making a new bios mod V1 and heres to a successful V2 =)

    I am curious though what gpu's will be supported (if it can be done?) and also is it possible to include a gpu overclock function within the bios? Sorry for all of the questions :eek:

    The 10% OC will be a great added feature and a blessing and hopefully we can see the max potential of our XM cards :eek:
     
  9. frozenarcticguy

    frozenarcticguy Notebook Deity

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    Anyone with a i7 920 and the mod installed, notice any difference especially with games? just wanted to check before I do the mod
     
  10. DanXbix

    DanXbix Notebook Deity

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    i have a 940xm and its the same as A10. V2MOD @ 10% overclock is what i'm looking forward too :)
     
  11. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I would not expect any GPU overclocking via the BIOS. Have never seen or heard of that in any system.....aside from extremely limited IGP stuff
     
  12. Cheater

    Cheater Notebook Consultant

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    so any news about M17xr2 bioS MOD or whatever for GPU :p 6970 crossfire
     
  13. Predator4rmMars

    Predator4rmMars Notebook Evangelist

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    Dam Scook :eek: Always ruining my dreams bud ;)

    It's kool, just wishful thinking I guess? Man, it would be sooooo kool tho :p

    Well....here's hoping to future gpu support and that 10% OC heyaaa!!!! :D
     
  14. Cheater

    Cheater Notebook Consultant

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    OMG Scook9 man stop blowing our dreams away :p 6970 takes less power with some bios mod ,, we can have it in our aliens 17r2 :p so dont u dare kill our dreams ROFL
     
  15. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The 6970m will work long before you will get bios GPU overclocking if that makes you happier.
     
  16. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    BIOS GPU overclocking doesn't even make sense, unless you guys are talking about the R1...
     
  17. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    Vbios overclocking is the way to go overclocking a gpu in bios seem like a really bad idea
     
  18. Predator4rmMars

    Predator4rmMars Notebook Evangelist

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    so am in good mood and i think TheWiz can make r2 users happy :p go go thewiz we want CF6970 :p or sli 470
     
  20. Necrotopsy

    Necrotopsy Notebook Consultant

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    cf 6970 preferred over 470

    because ati > nvidia

    :p
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    That is really a user preference. The good news is if he can do one he can likely do just about any GPU mod

    Big if though.....we have to wait and see.
     
  22. goodstone

    goodstone Notebook Consultant

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    Jusdt an update,

    Thewiz is on other projects at the moment. Awaiting a pdf document on what the various unlock features do on version mod. Will publish when becomes available.
     
  23. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    You mean he is not solely dedicated to this small group of fringe enthusiasts!?!? Dang hhhiiiiiimmmmmmmm!!!!!! :p
     
  24. weinstein888

    weinstein888 Notebook Evangelist

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    It would be an absolute dream if you could mod the BIOS to support dual 6970s. I know that would be pushing the ps to it's limits, but I'm interested in the prospect of it at the very least :D
     
  25. Cheater

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    :D so any news guys even if its hard for our PS to handle CF 6970 we can go for SLi gtx470 it isint that bad and how much does gtx470 drains powers?
     
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    kavy Notebook Guru

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    I searched through this thread and didnt see this comment but does anyone else notice that the OC does not persist through the computer sleeping?

    When i wake my computer the OC bus speed of 140 has dropped to the regular 133.
     
  27. djhuydx

    djhuydx Notebook Consultant

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    with mine, it remains 140.3MHz always :D
    try it again man :D
     
  28. debaucher

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    This is a known issue with the dell stock bios.... so I guess it carried over with the modded one.

    This is the main reason I never bothered to OC using the bios (on my 920xm or 940xm)

    D.
     
  29. DanXbix

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    Msg from TheWiz @ biosmods

    Hi guys,

    There will be new information coming out. I have been extremely tied up this week and am a bit behind on all the BIOSes running aloof. I'll keep you posted.

    TheWiz
     
  30. djhuydx

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    thanks for updating from TheWiz bro :)
     
  31. Crazy1212

    Crazy1212 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good morning @all,
    thats a realy nice MOD and all works. But i have a question. At all Progs what show me the CPU Frequency, i see the original Frequency from the CPU. (I7 620 QM with 5% OC). Look at this:

    [​IMG]

    Is that normal? And the another question is, exist there a DOC over all the new Bios Funktions?

    Thanks and best reguards.

    Crazy1212
     
  32. Lord Zog

    Lord Zog Notebook Guru

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    That is normal. That is the chips default speed, the "Core Speed" is your new speed. The 2.67 is what the M 620 is stock speed so it shows that in the specification.. Its from CPU-Z's database. The "Clocks (Core #0)" is the "running" speed.. Thats what you need to look at. :)

    Also, thats looks more than 5% OC, make sure its stable in stress tests and your nicely thermal pasted.. Unless the 5% is for Bus Speed, your running almost a 1Ghz difference... Did you change multiplier? 133Mhz x 25 = 3.35Ghz..
     
  33. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Wow... that truly sucks, what was Dell thinking? You have to oc everytime you boot then?
     
  34. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Turbo Boost......
     
  35. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    What he said. The overclocking is the bus speed. 133mhz is the stock clock. It's increased to 140mhz at a 5% OC. 133x25 vs 140x25.
     
  36. Crazy1212

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    Uuhhrgg....! I think the I7 620M has a 3.6 GHz Turbo. Ohhh... ....! :) OK, all right. But is the OC only for the Turbo Speed and not the normaly CPU Speed (2.66 GHz) ?

    And what i need is a description for all the new features in this very nice Bios MOD. :)

    Thanks for replays.

    Crazy.

    ps.: Do not interfere with my crappy english. :)
     
  37. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    overclock is for the bus frequency. No matter the multiplier used. so even if not turbo boosted the cpu will run 140 x "whatever multiplier". So yes, even normal speed will be higher
     
  38. Lord Zog

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    Didn't know Turbo Boost did around 680 Mhz difference... Never looked into it.
     
  39. Lord Zog

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    Just wasn't sure if Turbo Boost changed the multiplier that much..
     
  40. cookinwitdiesel

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    For a Single thread it adds a considerable boost. That was one of the big improvements of Lynnfield/Clarksfield vs Bloomfield
     
  41. Crazy1212

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    So, thanks for info. Now i make a restore to the original A10 Bios. My heart beat.....! I create a USB Stick with the Windos XP Mode from Win 7. It works. All what you must do is assign the USB Port to the Stick and run the WINCRIS.EXE. But during the restore it's a little confusing. The USB flash short and than it's still. After maybe 5 min. the system shut down. I press the power Butten and the System comes up. And all what i need is to say the Bios that i hav a RAID 0. And all works!

    GREAT JOB to "The Wiz" and "Goodstone"!!!!

    THX @all

    Crazy
     
  42. goodstone

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    Thanks for confirming that you can create crisis usb from xp mode windows 7.
    I will update first post to include this info +1 rep
     
  43. Geoffxx

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    Just wondering why BIOS on desktop machines can accept many GPU's but laptops cannot, sorry for the noob post as I have not gone to study this on internet
     
  44. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    They lock it down that way so it is easier for them to support and so you buy a new laptop instead of just upgrade the gpu

    Also I think there are some vendor specific pins to the MXM connector for things like sound over display port
     
  45. desu

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    would it be possible add the ability to enable Intel graphics on cpu's with it? (disable discrete graphics too)I always thought you should at least have the option to change over if someone really needed the extra battery life.
     
  46. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    No, that is a chipset limitation and the bios can't unlock it. You would need the HM55 chipset to use the IGP
     
  47. desu

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    oh ok nevermind then
     
  48. Crazy1212

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    hmm.. 5% OC is OK but if i make a stress test the temp don't come over 60°. I think more OC is possible. I see in another Alienware Bios the Option to go upto 15% OC. Look at this:

    [​IMG]

    i will have it. :D
     
  49. djhuydx

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    where is it from bro?
     
  50. goodstone

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    Yep.

    That is the Dell engineering bios x30. You would proberly never get your hands on that one.

    Thewiz is working on bios o/c to 10% or more by changing token values.

    People are getting closer to getting ati 69's to work. Some one has one in his r2. Temps are high and a few driver crashes but with a little time im sure we will get there.

    And with the rumour Dell release of m18x. I am just hoping that the 330w psu that comes with it would be compatible with the r2, but at the mo it is speculation. There also if the is an issue if the power system can handle 2 of the 69 cards.
     
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