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    The final solution: A guide to fixing the M17x R3 580m thermal throttling

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by YodaGoneMad, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. vunamdeptrai

    vunamdeptrai Newbie

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    Confirmed, I also got the random shutdown issue, but the 78 throttling was fixed flawlessly anyway :)
     
  2. Jinx1337

    Jinx1337 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Woah! I started getting the random shutdown issue as well!

    Not as random, as the system shuts itself down at ca. 70-71' C.
    What the hell? It didn't used to.

    I was afraid I borked my GPU or something... How to prevent doing it? How to even uninstall HWiNFO? I only got it as a simple executable.

    Do I just delete it? How do I remove its effects permanently?

    Ok, I flashed back to regular, not overvolted bios; my PC doesn't shut itself down for ca. 30 mins.

    I OC'ed a bit, with HWiNfo uninstalled, ran fine, upped the clocks and once the temps have reached 70-71'C - boom! Shutdown.

    I am rightfully scared now - any help appreciated!
     
  3. MickyD1234

    MickyD1234 Notebook Prophet

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    All I can add is that is exactly how one of my 580m's went. Every time I saw 72c - blam. Sometimes with the speaker buzzing. Once it started happening at stock clocks I got it replaced under warranty.
     
  4. Jinx1337

    Jinx1337 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Crap; no warranty here.
    I take it you've used the 920v mod as well?

    Anyone with some sort of solution?
     
  5. MickyD1234

    MickyD1234 Notebook Prophet

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    No, never used it as I saw too many failures :(. I only use the matched P0-P1 vbios. There was a bunch of NV drivers that spiked the voltage at 0.92v at startup and I am sure this was the cause of a whole bunch of 580/675m's giving out :(

    Strangest thing is just how cool this one runs - and the 675m is just a rebadge of the 580m. With each driver release the temps have been going down. Right now it games at around 66c under heavy load and most games run around 63c. I'm running a 700 OC, anything higher and it starts to artifact...
     
  6. Jinx1337

    Jinx1337 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Crap - so this most likely is a hardware issue?

    It's weird, as the card used to THROTTLE at around 73'C (and its the reason I tried HWiNFO in the first place).

    Now it's goodbye to throttle town, welcome to shutdown city.

    Anyone else with any input? Everything would be appreciated, as my warranty is now void.
     
  7. MickyD1234

    MickyD1234 Notebook Prophet

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    I have to say it is hardware (probably). I've seen at least five 580m's crap out. I had two go as well. I originally bought an M18x with dual 580m's. It throttled badly on the first game I tried so I just returned it. Most unreliable card I have ever come across in many years of using NV cards :(

    All you can do is make sure it never gets to that temp. What is the running temp at stock?
     
  8. Jinx1337

    Jinx1337 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, crap; anyone else with similar thing?

    I'd like to hear if I'm the only one.
    Still having my hopes for a fix...

    OK - seems like I fixed it, tho I need more testing...

    I've read countless threads about HWiNFO64 - uninstalling didn't help.
    But this time around, I disabled EC SUPPORT in its settings before running the sensors (the dev himself claimed it can cause shutdowns and freezes for Dell/Alienware) - so far I've read BF4 (and clogged the vents for faster heating up) - 72-74' C - no shutdown. 78' C - proper throttling.

    I shall test some more.
     
  9. Jinx1337

    Jinx1337 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The 580m is dead.

    It ran just fine for a week, suddenly I get a BSOD and now the computer randomly reboots; NVIDIA disssapears from BIOS on random, the notebook shuts itself down etc.

    Took it apart, repasted etc. - same thing.
    Removing it totally makes the laptop work on iGPU.

    Sigh. Do not overvolt, guys.
     
  10. MickyD1234

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    Yeah, shame you never saw this stuff before about overvolting. A whole bunch died back in the early days trying an overvolt, and when the 3xx driver started to 'boost' the voltage to 0.92v (which it should not have!) another batch bit the dust. The last 3 releases from NV no longer overvolt.
     
  11. Dr_Weird

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    So would this work for an M17x R3 with a 460m? I get the exact same issue with my gpu temp hitting 77-78 and then despite continuing to run at max, becoming unusably laggy with anything utilizing the gpu until it drops back into the low 60's. I have the current version of the 460m installed 337.38 I believe.
     
  12. MickyD1234

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    Sounds like the same problem - a simple overheat? I don't know the characteristics of the 460m but I have no reason to expect the throttling to be different.

    The latest deiver is 337.88 but it's not getting great feedback with a lot of people rolling back to the one you are using.

    Have you cleaned out the heat exchangers under the fans? They clog for me in about 6 months so it gets a blow out every three ;)

    You might just need a repaste - it does loose its performance over time.

    Good luck
     
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    HelloMoto163 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,

    directly after the 2 year warranty Ive got random shutdowns which were really annoying, I reinstalled windows, cleaned my laptop from dust. Nothing helped. Since I repasted the gpu the random shutdowns stop. When I run furmark the computer shutdowns as soon it hits 78C. Ive tested that many times. I even flashed the vbios now, the normal version. The 78C are hit within some seconds ...

    Is it some hardware issue? Software or do i have to repaste again?
     
  14. MickyD1234

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    It's all about getting the padding perfect. There is a thick line of some sort of putty along one edge. This covers the VRM's and is crucial to get a low temp. My last one started to shut down at 72c but spending some time I managed to never go over 70c when gaming.

    Furmark will always burn a card to the max of it's heatsink. Use Heaven 4 for a real world test. http://unigine.com/products/heaven/

    Good luck and please post results ;)
     
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