Upgrading my Ranger

Sorry about it being sideways, but this is probably the most sketch test bench I have ever built lol.

Edit: Should I put a thermal pad between the optical disk SATA connector or no. The 1070 isn't touching it, but its a few centimetres away from doing so.

 

Alright, upon pressing the power button, the CPU fan spins for like 2 seconds and then stops, the LED's for the power button stay on but there are no beeps and no signal to the display, (I am using the LVDS display right now.)

(Also I plugged in the speakers after that picture.)

 

Nothing on HDMI?

I wouldnt be surprised if its just not posting

 

I'll try HDMI, I just don't think its posting. I hope I didn't short/fry anything.

 

Or actually, I'll take out the card and try to boot using the iGPU, and then if that works, I'll try HDMI.

Edit: I just took the GPU out and tried to boot, and nothing. I'll double check to make sure everything is good.

 

I'd do it just in case. Either electrical tape or a thermal pad is good.

There won't be a signal to the display because Pascal and later generation cards do not support LVDS, only eDP. Did you switch to dGPU only mode before inserting the card? If so, that's why you aren't getting a signal. Were you planning to run the 1070 in optimus mode with the iGPU as the primary display output card?

 

I was planning to run it in Optimus as I know that it doesn't support LVDS. I just managed to boot without the GPU. I have the modded BIOS, but what display setting should I be using to make sure everything is okay?

Edit: This is my thinking right now: I have the 120hz display and the eDP cable. So if I were to just plug it in, I might get signal, Or would I have to set it in the BIOS to whatever display mode only does the GPU... but then that wouldn't work as the only card I have is the 1070 and the only way I can get into the BIOS is without a GPU, so I cant set it to GPU only.

 

I don't have the modded BIOS, but I would guess iGPU under Primary Display. What options does it give?

 

SG (which it defaults to when there is no GPU,) PEG, iGFX, and PCI (PCI doesn't work, I temporarily bricked my Ranger by setting it to that.)

I just can't remember which display type does what.

 

If you have eDP cable and panel, go into BIOS with LVDS and set to PEG. Legacy option off and UEFI boot enabled I think, its been a while

When it shuts down unplug power and plug in the eDP panel with the 1070.

 

Set it to SG. SG enables switchable graphics. iGFX enables only the iGPU, and PEG is dedicated graphics only. I don't know why PCI is an option.

Also make sure ou're running in full UEFI mode by disabling the legacy option ROM if that's enabled.

 

Alright, just making sure this is right...

Go into the BIOS with no 1070 and set the display mode to PEG. (I already have everything in a pure UEFI state.) Turn off the computer, disconnect power, install 1070, switch from LVDS panel to eDP panel, then re-boot and hope everything works?

 

Normally you would want the first GPU that you have and let it reboot into PEG with the eDP panel jut to make sure its working an all that first then shut down and install the 1070 but the 880m is not cooperating anymore.

I disconnect and still attempt to boot just to drain what ever is left in the system.

 

IT WORKS!!!!!!

(I understand the fake mic is metal, but its the only thing that could hold the panel up

 

I can get into the BIOS too

 

Just booted into windows. The GPU is sitting at 51c and the CPU is at 60ish C.

 

Ok, there is no display adapters or display tab in device manager.

 

Do you have GPU-Z installed?

 

Yes, I'm going to eat in just a minute, but the temps actually got up to like 87C while idleing. Would aiming a fan at the heatsink help or no. I will check GPU-Z when I get back.

 

naturally

 

I opened GPU-Z and there was like nothing in the boxes. I'll send a pic in a minute.

 

In HWINFO, the GPU shows up as a 1070. I also put a large fan and aimed it at the GPU, it now stays at like 40ish C

 

Alright, I tried connecting to the internet and nothing changed.

Edit: I forced windows to give me something to work with (by using a tutorial,) but under hardware ID's it doesn't give me what it should give me. It says "rdpidd_indirectdisplay"

Tutorial:

 

This might be due to the Dell vBIOS that guy had on the card. Its driving the display so that is a good sign but its looking like you will need to flash the MSI vBIOS which you should be able to do via software since you wouldnt be altering said vBIOS.

@Rengsey R. H. Jr. do you know if this would be the case from your experience? I remember reading @Striker1234 had done this before, flashing the MSI vBIOS to the Zotac 1070 via software iirc but its been a while I am sketchy on the details...

 

I think it is too. Though, HWINFO is the only software that can detect the 1070, and all it says is that the GPU is a 1070 and that it has a dell vBIOS.

 

Well you could try installing the drivers and see what happens

 

I did, it said incompatible version of windows and this GPU is not supported.

 

Did you turn driver signature enforcement off?

 

I tried with and without it. Keep in mind, the drivers weren't modded.

 

You need to mod the inf file of the drivers, without this step it will always fail

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I understand, the main problem is that I cant go into device manager and check my number that I need to use in order to mod the drivers. I don't even have the option for display adapters. Reciever suspects the reason is that the guy before me flashed a Dell vBIOS on it instead of leaving the MSI one.

 

I always get my modded nvidia drivers from this site:
https://forums.laptopvideo2go.com

You have the inf file there already modified, you just need to replace the inf file. I never needed to check that number.

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If you run NVFlash without actually flashing a new vBIOS you should be able to see if the card is recognised in the system. It should pick it up even if it has the wrong vBIOS.

 

I'll try that, though, I've never used NVFlash, so lets hope I don't mess anything up.

 

@Maxware79 Is there a guide or anything on how to use NVFlash, I can't seem to find anything that's useful.

 

You won't if you don't try a flash command. You may actually have to go through most of the process to check it though but I haven't done it in a little while. Do this at your own risk
Make a folder in your C: drive called nvflash and then download the program from TechPowerUp.
Extract the files and put the unzipped files into the nvflash folder. It used to have two files nvflash and nvflash64
Go back to TechPowerUp and find a suitable Dell/Alienware vBIOS for your card. Download it and place it in the nvflash folder with the other files. Write down the ROM name for later.
Usually you'd now go to Device Manager and disable the GPU and save your current vBIOS using GPU-Z but you can't do that since it's not there. I'd also disable your internet connection at this stage
Open CMD and run as administrator
Type -
cd C:\nvflash
Then type -
nvflash -6 ROM_NAME.rom

The ROM_NAME being whatever your vBIOS ROM is called. Usually a 6 or 7 digit number
If you had the nvflash and nvflash64 files then you may have to add the 64 to the command. for example.... nvflash64 -6 ROM_NAME.rom

It should now tell you which display adapter you have in your system. If you press y twice at this stage it will begin the flash so don't press y if you don't want to flash it.
Type exit and it should take you out of the command prompt

 

Alright, I don't know what to do with this info, but in the warning area, those seem like the numbers I would get out of the hardware ID's of the microsoft basic display adapter, right?

 

Well it's good news that the 1070 is there in the machine. Yes all the right ID's are there to mod a driver.
GPU ID - 1BA1
Laptop ID - 05AE
Dell ID - 1028

I haven't come across that warning before but there is an issue somewhere. I think @Reciever was right

 

Do you think I can still mod the INF, or should I not touch that yet.

 

You can still mod the INF files. You'll need to later anyway.

I have no idea what will happen if you install the drivers with the card in this state, but it may actually work. I'd still flash the MSI VBIOS first though.

 

I'm going to attempt to install the modded drivers. One issue though. When I try to locate the NVIDIA file in my C driver, it disappears after I close out of the Nvidia driver installation tab. DO I just leave the tab open or what do I do.

 

The drivers installed, but I get a code 43. I know this is bad, but can it most likely be traced down to the fact the card has the wrong vBIOS?

 

Yeah my 1070 had the code 43 when I originally installed it because the vBIOS was wrong

 

Well, will I need to find the original MSI 1070 vBIOS? and if so, do I flash it the same way you told me earlier, but press y twice to flash the new one?

 

Indeed.

 

Will any MSI 1070 mobile vBIOS work, or will I need to pinpoint an exact vBIOS?

I know that this card was pulled from a vortex desktop (it looks like a trashcan, look it up if needed.) And that on the card, it says Version 1.0

 

Is it an MSI card?

Ahhh from the Vortex

 

Okay, there are two different vBIOS's

There is the 1BE1 which DOES NOT match my GPU ID:
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/216304/216304

And then there is the 1BA1 which clocks 50mhz higher and DOES match my GPU ID:
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/222470/222470

I'm guessing the vBIOS that DOES match my GPU ID is the one I should use, right?

 

Is it the funky looking MSI card with the extra piece of PCB sticking out?

 

Yes, flash the one that matches your GPU ID.

Yes, it's the one with the extra tab in the upper right corner.