What do YOU want/think will be in the M17x R5?

Why wouldn't you just go for an M18x?

 

Some Clevo builds (IIRC the Clevo X7200) were designed to have the socket 2011 so it's not unreasonable to think some newer notebooks will have the newer revision hexacore CPUs.

A Radeon with 4GB VRAM is long overdue. I think most OEMs will keep the VGA port, HDMI out, drop the HDMI in, and add in a Thunderbolt port.

CPU support for 4 x 16GB RAM may be around the corner with the new Haswell architecture.

The most USB ports a notebook will have are four + the eSATAp/USB comp port. There's just not enough room on the motherboard for much more.

Most OEMs will have to support 12.5mm drives before they consider 15mm.

Absolutely will happen in the near future, maybe even in time for the R5's release

My friend worked for Dell and he knew for a fact that the XPS M1710/1730 line were the last home consumer based laptops that would be equipped with the E-Port docking port. The only way to get a docking port on the bottom is to go with a business Dell like a Latitude system.

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I'd rather see the Aluminum frame brought back.

??? What kind of layout improvement?

Boy that would be nice not to have the keyboard flex underneath our weight

Like the CAPS/NUM/SCROLL lights?

Alienware won't add anything to the back because they need to keep that area clear for the fan vents

Just not gonna happen. Can only get an E-Port on a Latitude or Precision Mobile notebook.

There was a thread that detailed how this was becoming possible. I think it might happen sooner rather than later

Most probable with the R5 premium options since there are already 12.7mm slot loading BD-RE drives already available from places like Panasonic.

That...would...be...AWESOME

Not a chance. I just was shopping at Frys and I realized EVERY notebook model they have displayed on their sales floor comes with a integrated webcam. I don't even see the option to specifically leave it out on Dell's notebook build site.

 

I think the AW rep actually made a post surveying people. They did mention about the Thunderbolt which means we may see it in M17x/ M18x in the near future.

I personally want a new design. I would really appreciate something less dusty...

 

Small capacitive touch LCD display near either side palm rest that can be enabled or disabled and displays system information, shortcuts , or even controls for overclocking or that liquid cooling lol, it could also be the touchpad of the computer at the same time , so it's a screen and touchpad all in one !

 

would be nice, but I feel like it would add a great more to the price and it would be a copy of the technology on the razer blade. But who knows. I would definitely use it if it was there.

 

Ahh no wayyyy razer blade gimmick. I would definitely not like that

 

I wouldn't want it either. It would cheapen the machine.

 

to the person wanting a hexacore m17x... how and why?
Clevo is the only one who pulls that off, and the Mountain of a desktop replacement that they put it in is thicker than a phonebook because of the required cooling. You are basically forced to use an external keyboard because of how tall the machine is on a desk. no game, and very few programs (that you would use on a laptop at least) would ever even come close to using the processors full potential.

 

Agreed. But it's like owning a Lamborghini in the US. Sure it's fast, but there's no place in this country you can drive it at 200 Mph+ (other than a race track). So owning it is more of a statement than anything else.

 

M18x -> m17x
m17x -> m15x
m14x -> m13x

There is such a huge gap between the 14X and 17X at the moment.

 

Now that I have a 17inch machine it would be hard to go back to a 15inch machine

 

I hope for RGB screen..and of cours, option to upgrade my m17 with that screen

 

At least a lambo looks cool. Not even AW's designers can make a laptop over 3 inches thick look sleek or sexy, let alone anything close to portable. To put that into perspective, it would be 50-100% thicker than the m18x, and 3-4 lbs heavier than the m18x.

 

ill pass on something that big. Sounds like you could fit a crazy amount of hardware in there though.

 

For me maybe an R5 with a single mobile GPU that can do 9100-10K 3DMark 11 at stock clocks and still be able to maintain cool temps on slight oc'ing.

 

Indeed, unfortunately you basically go from "large desktop replacement" to "all in one with an attacked keyboard".

I wouldn't be surprised if the 780 can pull that off next year. Perhaps even the 680MX in a few months.

 

Do you have any news to support that now? I really want to go with an R5, but I can just wait until aug/2013...

 

It's based on when haswel is due to be released and how long dell takes to release a refresh based on it I believe.

 

Uhmm... It makes sense... well... I will w8 until july/2013, if it doesn't release, I will buy an R4 with a small price at least.

 

Once haswell is out then Alienware would have to release a new model, be it a refresh with the same shell but new motherboard or a redesign otherwise they would fall behind.

 

IIRC, the Haswell is due out in Spring 2013, so a new R5 in July 2013 may not be feasable. But this isn't the "What is feasible" thread, this is the "What do YOU want" thread. :thumbsup:

 

Well, if it's what I WANT.... I want the same FPS jump that we got between the r3 and r4, in a 9mm thick chassis, fully customizable with replaceable cpu/gpu/HDDs/RAM/Networking, with a solid magnesium, all weighing in at 2 kilograms. 60wh battery, good for 4 hours of gaming or 8 of 4k playback.

Oh, and a 4k screen. Because resolution.

Anyone else want one of these? Maybe by 2016 or so?

 

Cameraless????? Why would you want that??

 

isn't magnesium heavy?? plus with that 4k display, you would need a very very powerful GPU to play games maxxed out at that resolution and I don't think that kind of technology is available for laptops yet.

 

If they did all of this, it would make the M18x obsolete.

Good wants though, I want these as well.

 

How about a machine specifically targetted towards an external dock?

M13X-EX

No built in dedicated card but has the cooling for up to a 4920XM (or whatever is the highest end extreme edition at the time), offers great battery life by itself, then when paired up with the dock (which can use the internal screen if needed) allows you to run a full size desktop graphics card in it through a thunderbolt connection.

The dock could add extra connectivity, and say add a num pad too.

 

Magnesium is actually much lighter than Aluminium; a lot of high-performance vehicles use it for that reason.

As for the being able to drive games at 4k.... the rMBP does it acceptably at ~1500p with what is basically a 660m (overclocked 650m as far as I know), and you don't need nearly as high AA at retina resolutions. So it might not run on ultra- but you can always turn on pixel-doubling and pretend it's a 1080p display

 

If you double all the pixels up you get 1440x900.

People differ on what they call acceptable, and it can vary depending on game, so debates on what is actually playable get pointless.

Regardless, if you had a 650M and a 680M machines driving two monitors next to each other you would know which was which.

 

If you double the pixels of a 4096×2160 or 3840×2160 display (both commonly referred to as 4k) you get either 2048x1080 or 1920x1080....

 

I thought you were talking about the macbook pro display.

You would need a pair of 680MX to really game at 4k, partly just for the added memory bandwidth which the 680M is short on.

 

Ow, hadn't considered the memory bandwidth aspect of things.... But AFAK, the 560m can drive two external displays at once, a 2500x1600 and 1920x1080, plus the integrated 1920x1080, and 4k isn't many more pixels from that. I wouldn't ever consider gaming on 3 monitors, but the gtx680 can do it- and this year's 680mx is approximately equivalent to a gtx580. Another generational leap like that, and 4k could be reasonably within reach. After all, I can dream!

rMBP display confusion makes sense, I should really start quoting the entire chain of replies....

 

I don't know about them 4k displays. I checked out the MBP with Retina displays over the weekend...those things made my eyes cross. :wub:

 

Absolutelly agree, I would buy such a thing in a blink.

 

Also like the docking idea, not bad

 

Damn it... CES 2013... Haswell only in June... I think Alienware won't make an R5 in time for me... with my end line is the half july.
Sad...

 

What i want in an R5, so i can finally upgrade from my R2:

- i want it to get the 'wow what the hell is that' factor back. An alienware used to give reactions like, how the hell is that possible in a laptop. Now thats a bit less, they aren't as extreme as they used to be. they just need to add stuff we all think isnt possible, special stuff. do something crazy like liquid cooling.
If someone asks me what on EARTH this is, i want to be able to tell him this isn't from this earth, it's made by aliens from outer space as a gift to mankind, to show us their technology. I want it to be extreme,y again so I can say NASA has contacted me if i can lend it to them so they can learn from the hardware. I want that kind of stuff, again.
- updated design
- dual gpu, ed ^^
- RGB LED
- LED keyboard. Lighting with Alienfx was nice 5 years ago, now i want to be able to use my own icons and colors in my keys. AlienFX v2.0, imagine the possibilities in games
- Replace Touchpad with a capacitive screen. Acts like a touchpad and display in one
- did i already mention dual gpu?
- addition of cool, nerdy, useless gadgets, technicalities and thingies, not cause you need it, but just because they can.
- And the utmost important thing i want, is that when I boot it up or shut it down, or even randomly when operating, it makes a transformer like alien sound. I want it to be alive! ^^

Actually, I don't want an R5, i want an R2 v2.

Id also like more Alienware branded peripihirals also. v2 of the mouse, headset and keyboard, and some new stuff. Alienware branded cooling pads with alienfx, external 5" display to use gadgets in where you can monitor stuff, or even have a website open with moves or tactics for a game.
I just love that kind of useless stuff ^^

Then i want the m18x to also have all of that, but just better, more, bigger and bolder so I have an excuse to get both of them.

 

All i want is few practical things.

- Dual gpus back in 17" form factor
- Increase depth for hdd caddy/slots, so i can use 12.5 drives.
- 1920x1200 RGB led lcd from r2 or better yet 1920x1200 95% gamut matte display
- ODD with hot swap. As much as i like slot loading drive, it isnt easy to replace it with hdd on the go. Even alienware would be able to offer second battery/Hdd tray/dual-msata tray (or quad msata tray).
- Much much much more powerful fans for cooling. Yes they will make more noise at full speed but will push much more air through the hsf fins at the same time.

I beleive these are all quite reasonable and it should be very easy for dell/alienware to accomplish.

 

-1080/1440 matte Calibrated IPS
-ALPS NKRO keyboard
-carbon fiber chasis(saves weight)
-quieter fans on full load
-dual Thunderbolt port
-better speakers + subwoofer
-properly working bios(ram overclocking in particular)
-smaller in dimensions same capacity psu
-ability to manually switch graphics
-better driver updates

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Why would it be better to put on a Thunderbolt over DVI or VGA? Probably 0.1% of the monitors out there support this and probably only 1 in 1000 from that group have actually been bought and are in use.

I would vote for DVI over VGA...ANY DAY!!!

The 3 most common ports that exist on monitors IN USE TODAY are: VGA, DVI & HDMI

Display Port is gaining traction and Thunderbolt is vaporware and will be as useful as having a Firewire port.

 

I agree, stick it to the chiclet!

 

Sticking somewhat to the realm of reality, I'd like to see:

• NO Thunderbolt ports!
• Have an option with no optical drive (buy an external one as an option) but instead have a dual/quad msata SSD bay with hardware 4x RAID built in (like the early Sony VAIO Z).
• Matte, 1200p, RGB IPS LED LCD screen with 1mm bezel.
• L702x JBL speaker system or better, make sure they aim up, NOT forward on the chassis.
• SINGLE GPU, let the dual GPU guys buy the m18x, this thing is already heavy as it is.
• Replace as much metal with carbon fiber or kevlar as you can to reduce weight. A 17.3" laptop that weighs in at 6lbs would have a huge WOW factor!
• Get rid of the crappy touchpad. The L702x touch pad is pretty awesome!
• Shrink the power brick to 1/2 its current size/weight.
• Make a better power connector that is made to come off if you trip on the cord.
• Get rid of "caddy+drive" system to reduce weight. All drives screw directly to the skeleton, instead of to a caddy that screws onto the frame. That's needless weight.
• DO NOT get rid of esata!!
• 1 or 2 more USB 3.0 ports would be nice, place at the back. So, we have USB ports on all 3 sides.
• Ability to add more actions to the lighting zones, maybe double or triple the current amount. Make it more usually friendly to create advanced themes, copy and paste sequences, etc. Add more lighting zones: separate the number row, tab/shift/control as their own zone, etc. And why haven't we seen a lighting zone sharing website yet from Alienware?
  
  

 

Personally, I'd rather have a thunderbolt port than a mini-displayport port. Though a dual-link DVI would be amazing to have, it probably wouldn't fit if it was put in the same place as the miniDP is now. And as a thunderbolt port does everything a miniDP does and more, I know which one I'd rather have. (Seriously, thunderbolt can even use your old miniDP cables if you want to- they are the same form factor after all)

 

Double post- sorry

 

But what devices use Thunderport that are currently on the market?

 

thunderbolt is VERY versatile, you will see many uses,
right now you can connect a graphics card to thunderbolt it has so much bandwidth.

 

The point isn't what devices use Thunderbolt, it's that Thunderbolt uses the same form factor as the port we already have!

Oh, and that Thunderbolt is amazingly fast. It's literally an external PCIe connection, and if you can find an adapter can do anything a PCIe slot will.

 

I can't see there being an M17 R5 until the next generation of GPU's are launched . I would like to see .

A single GPU config
Good Quality Speakers
A Better Battery
An IPS screen
Try to cut down on the weight but don't do it if it can't be done by sacrificing build quality .

 

Am I the only one that wants the cool alienFX customization in the lid's alienhead?? I don't like the white color all the time... is boring...

 

I'd maybe want a single thunderbolt port just in case.

 

Keep the chassis, but have it back as metal, changing to plastic on a laptop like this is a little stupid considering it isn't exactly an icon of extreme portability. Plus considering the price tag metal would help justify it.
HDMI sound in would be nice, the speakers are already the best I've heard on a laptop.
Ditch the friggin' plastic screen cover thingy!...that some people accidentally scratch...
Not to mention the glare...
Keyboard is awesome though, sure beats chiclet crap, don't change it.
More AlienFX options...actually much more, the current controls for it are pretty crap too. Plus, the alien head on the lid, you can change that, no one likes it like this.
Better cooling would be good, then single cards would do a lot better because we could boost them without melting everything.
The buttons for volume control and all that seem a bit flimsy, on the R4 at least, could do with a little work.
A power supply that isn't so big you practically need a separate bag for it? That'd help.
I would say a higher res screen, but that might be best to leave with the mighty dual card M18x.

Other than all that, just more customization options would be great, I remember going around the site years ago and there were tons of options, now not so much.

Though this is more an issue with Dell, how about having the "Starting at $1499" apply universally? In Australia, the minimum is $2199. Different hardware yeah, but I'd be expecting greater customization with stuff like this. Not to mention it's all made in China anyway, so they're pretty much going out of their way to lose customers.