Why does everyone hate enduro?

Maybe i jumped on the wagon late, but i for one absolutely love my m17xR4 and its Enduro support. All i have to do its open the CCC the first time i open a game that isn't detected automatically, select high-performance not Auto, and it runs like a dream!
The only issue I have is with far cry 3. Even with the latest drivers is still has the "black boxes" issue that everyone seems to run into with this combination.

This thread might be a bit pointless but i just felt the need to express my opinion on how i feel Enduro works just as good for me as Nvidia's "optimus". i can still get 4+ hours out of my M17x watching youtube and surfing, then plug in and fire up a game without pointless reboots. This makes me a happy AMD owner that questions everyones responses on the topic that I see all over this forum...

I dont mean to offend anyone, only to express my opinion i suppose!

What do you other 7970m etc. owners think?

 

Hi there loafer987

I also have a m17xR4 with a 7970m and everything has been working flawlessly (knock on wood). I currently have 61 games installed on Steam plus non-steam games and I'm yet to see any problems with Enduro or the 7970m. Like you said, sometimes it doesn't recognize the game but it's just a matter of manually selecting high-performance after first running the game and voilá.

regards

 

Good to hear it works well. Posts like this only help spread the word. I do get how you set it but does it switch well? You know between the IGP and dGPU? That might be a complaint but I do not know.

My Optimus is not really a picnic so anyone who says so is lying.

So like I said keep spreading the word.

 

Enduro killed my performance 6 months ago so I turned off the IGPU, never turned it on, I don't even have the proper drivers installed, (no intel graphics drivers here).

Maybe it's now alot better, I don't know but I don't wanna test it because I am fine like this, I don't need the IGPU.

 

I think the main complaint comes from the fact it exists. Yes it's great for a laptop in dual use, and you are doing your bit for your treehugger pin, but like a lot of people I bought this machine to game on, on mains power, it's just something I'd rather not have to deal with or think about . As soon as you have to do extra work to get a game working it's a nuisance.

The biggest plus on my model for me is that the weak iGPU is disabled and unusable

 

After owning a laptop with manual graphics switching, I do not want to leave anything up to Optimus or Enduro. One moment of "underutilization" is too much.

 

It was the giant chunks of performance it killed was the problem really, but it will become the norm as time passes and these issues are resolved.

 

I also stopped using it over 6months ago, I would receive BSODs more often than acceptable. I'm sure it is a lot better know, but I am a gamer so it really has no use for me.

 

I had 3 driver crashes with enduro enabled, but battery life is good, otherwise no issue whatsoever.

When driver crashed, laptop froze for 30seconds or so and then driver recovered. Annoying but nothing major like Optimus, m11xr3, I had to keep gpu underclocked otherwise Optimus would froze.

 

I've never used it but I've used "turbo mode" buttons on several laptops and from what I've read it has or at least had a ton of the same issues as the turbo mode buttons the biggest of which was the following scenario.
You start playing a game, you go "why is this game skippy?" oh I forgot to switch, that's ok I'll just switch now... immediate BSOD or restart with no error. The issue being that when over a certain percentage of cpu or gpu power was already in use it would kill the laptop instantly. However since you have no way of knowing when that percentage of use is reached you don't know which games will kill it and which won't and then even when you do they will sometimes work because 1 area of the game may be just under the amount and another area of the game may be just over...

 

Never had that issue on MSI machines though.

 

MSI turbo button is one of the laptops I had that did that. It was an immediate 30% overclock of the CPU but if you did it when more than like 50% of the cpu was being used then it would BSOD.

 

To be honest, as soon as I got the laptop, I switched to discrete only. Then after updating the drivers.... I just uninstalled Enduro completely. I don't use the laptop away from a plug anyway, and if I was, I guess I would just boot to use the integrated graphics. My r4 does last about 5 hours, on medium-high brightness away from a plug, whilst running a few programs and browsing the web.

After all the bad stuff that's been said about Enduro, I think it's just more worry than it's worth!

 

Was an OLD model then as even the 2nd gen I7s could not be overclocked so it just did the graphics card.

 

Sorry for the thread revival but I feel that Enduro is actually a nice addition to have for some systems. On my Alienware though, the Fn-F7 key switch is the most amazing feature I ever hoped for. It's just amazing that such a basic necessity has been overlook by pretty much all other brands besides Alienware. Added to that, there have been reports of enduro sucking up some performance as well. In a day where games suck up GPU power like crazy, having total control over my performance is one of the main reasons I purchased my R4