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    Wireless HD Received included?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Andre56, Mar 4, 2011.

  1. Andre56

    Andre56 Notebook Evangelist

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    Just wondering if the WirelessHD receiver is included as standard with any configuration of the M17X R3.

    Thanks
     
  2. FrozenWaltDisney

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    Had the same question since its in the advertisement on the page, but it doesn't list it in the product! :p
     
  3. DaneGRClose

    DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso

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    The only way you can do a wireless display right now is with the switchable graphics models using the Intel IGP and an Intel Wifi card with a receiver you have to purchase seperately, this isn't able to transmit HD signals though. The WiDi most people are talking about when they mention the WirelessHD hasn't been released yet. So no there's no receiver of any kind included.
     
  4. Irb Digital

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    Thanx for the info, was wondering this myself. Do you think it will be something that can be swapped right in for later upgrade or that it will be something integrated into a major component, making an expensive/difficult diy upgrade
     
  5. jywang

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    There are 2 kinds of wireless hd in for the M17xR3.

    One is Intel version which simply requires a Intel CPU using the IGP when paired with the 6200 or 6300 wireless card. It does support 1080p with the newer version of the receiver but I don't think it is available yet. ptv is the link to get more information. This version of the wireless display may not support bluray or dvd playback and is probably not suitable for gaming.

    The second version requires additional hardware in your M17xR3 and it uses a separate 60GHz signal which is supposed to be lag free and is considered as wireless HDMI so it does support DRM (bluray and DVD). I hope that it is available as a kit but installation will definitely require disassembly of the laptop to install the hardware module. The receiver is said to be available soon from Vizio. More info here: SiBEAM :: Home
     
  6. Andre56

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    His review confuses the crap out of me

    ...First he says

    But then he goes and says...

    So I don't know if we JUST need the receiver and it'll be compatible with the built in transmitter he claims it has (In which case... why would he mention Vizio selling a transmitter?) or what.

    I've been re-reading that review for days and I just don't know what he means. He OBVIOUSLY got a laptop with tech that we can't get.. Does this mean we don't receive the transmitter built in, does this mean we only need to buy a receiver? Tons of questions and no answers. I think we'll have to wait.
     
  8. Andre56

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    I dont think the M17X has anything built in. I think he means it comes bundled with the receiver but I don't think dell are including it yet.
     
  9. ir0nman1

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    Accordingto both the video and feature photo's on alienware website they list wireless HD as built in, problem is it doesn't specify it as Widi or the SiBEAM version.
     
  10. Emm3

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    The r3 will have the TRANSMITTER built in so yes all you would need to buy is a receiver unless they offer it in some sort of bundle. If there is no receiver built in then you would buy a product that has a transmitter plugged into the laptop and reciever to the tv
     
  11. FXi

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    Seems to me like a straighforward HDMI cable into the TV is going to be the most straightforward solution for a while yet.
     
  12. froggydave

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    Just ordered my M17x yesterday. I was told the WiHD transmitter is included and built in the laptop. That being said, the TV is going to need a receiver, and I was too dim to ask if the vizio receiver is included (though I doubt it...).
     
  13. jywang

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    I think several of us that opened up the laptop did not see the SiBeam module installed. So, I don't think it is included. I also don't see if in my windows devices panel...

    The Widi transmitter is included because it is simply the Intel WIFI. However, keep in mind that I think you need to get the 2720qm or 2820qm processor to be able to utilize the 2nd generation 1080p output support. For more info, go to ptv to see the ptv2000 that does support DRM and 1080p. Still, I don't think this solution is suitable for gaming due to possible lag.
     
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    The Product is made by Vizio, yes the one Dell is going to include.
     
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    I think a lot of you are mixing up WiDi and Wireless HD.

    Wireless HD is a technology made by a lot of electronic companies. To use WiHD you will need some sort of transmitter and a reciever. There are two options available for this.
    1. USB dongles such as SiBeam where you insert the transmitter in the USB port of the computer and a standalone reciever at the TV to recieve the signals.
    2. Integrated transmitters inside the computer and a reciever by the TV.

    This is a direct competitor to Intels solution, WiDi:
    WiDi is something everyone can use as long as they have:
    I3, I5 or I7 processors
    Intel HD Graphics (IGP)
    And one of the following wireless cards
    Intel® Centrino Wireless-N 1000
    Intel® Centrino Advanced-N 6200, 6205, 6230, or 1030
    Intel® Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 or 6150
    Intel® Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
    A reciever from NetGear
     
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    I just got my m17x r3 today, with 3d, 2720qm. Per difital manual, if equipped with Wireless HD an Icon for the software should be on the desk. None was on mine. I have the proper proc and Intel network card but like many I'm little bit confused. Even when configuring it when buying no where expect in advertisments is the wireless HD mentioned? Can't find any thing on Dell's or Alienware's site to get any straight scoop.
     
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    Ok i have been reading some of the pages in the manual and i quote:

    "The WirelessHD kit does not ship with your computer and must be purchased separately."

    From my understanding the M17x does indeed -support- WirelessHD, meaning it can speak with the transmitter. But i think you still need a standalone transmitter and a reciever to make it work.

    Here is a WirelessHD kit
    [​IMG]
     
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    And here is the other alternative from Intel (WiDi) which require less equipment

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Comrade Ynot

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    for only non 3d bundles of the r3. The IGP is completely bypassed and turned off in the 3d bundled. Cant even see it in the bios.

    Talked to tech support today, they dont understand why that is and most of the sales people have been told ( from my understanding ) that widi will work with both versions of the r3, which is untrue.

    The widi, needs the Intel Graphics, the Intel Processor, and the Push2TV box. If you cant switch to the IGP, you cant use WiDI.

    Now as for Wireless HD Streaming, I am still trying to get some answers.
     
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    That is probably true. The option for 3D models would be to use WirelessHD since it doesn`t require IGP
     
  21. Comrade Ynot

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    Check this out, its from Kit Guru's review.


    http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/P1170238.jpg

    Look at this screen and look down at the graphic cards. Notice that its got both, Nvidia and IGP.

    On my machine I do not have that and do not have the ability to switch.

    So, I dont get it. Why does their display/show model able to switch between the two graphics and still have a 3d screen and the actual machine I have not able to do it?
     
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    This is why
    "A few weeks ago, Dell asked us if we wanted to review the 120hz 3D version, or the 2D version. Noticing that the system incorporated a GTX460M, we felt the 3D version might be a little underpowered graphically, so we opted for a high end build of the 2D unit."
     
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    Oh crud, yer right. Well blergh.
     
  24. poorcavs

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    As far as I can tell, the WirelessHD kit (as mentioned before, sent over 60GHz), will be an option to have integrated into the laptop. I don't know when that becomes available, but hopefully soon since that's the feature I really want! I don't want to have even a USB dongle hanging off my laptop when I want to connect to the TV, so it's gotta be the internal option.

    Once the WirelessHD card is integrated, then an external receiver is required to hook up to the TV, which darkloki said is a Vizio box (available yet?).

    But aside from the few reviews I can't find any details even on the Alienware website...

    EDIT: just checked out the ( WirelessHD) webpage, which has the M17x as a product, and a new M14x?
     
  25. Geoffxx

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    Guys download the R3 manual from Dell, it clearly states that the WiHD is an optional card or upgrade that is installed in the laptop, there is a connector already there - currently with no card in it, I'm going to assume that this upgrade option will consist of 3 things

    1. The internal WiHD transmitter card
    2. The reciever unit which plugs into the HDMI port of your TV
    3. The driver sofyware for the Transmitter card to be installed on Laptop

    Approx cost prob about $250


    Dell does not have this kit available yet, it does not currently appear as an option on any Dell system configuration upgrade options, it does not ship with any R3 configurations.


    As already mentioned there is another technology from intel called WiDi, it is not available on 3D systems because the required internal on chip Intel IGP is disabled on 3D systems (it is inferior to WiHD anyway)


    This is the second thread discussing this BTW lol
     
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