World of Warcraft: Cataclysm - M17x R1 & R2 Discussion

I agree with what Flynnaz has said, personally I prefer to use the updated ATI drivers as they are released more frequently, and (so far) have not seen any negative impacts by doing this. Just my personal preference however.

 

I did the update to 10.12 (I can't find it on AMD anymore.........all I see is 10.11) and my frame rates dropped to 24ish in a city. I had done a clean install, removing everything with driver sweeper, so I am pretty sure there was no residue. I actually went back to the Dell drivers because of another issue I was having (my screen had alot of flickering), and it actually increased my performance. My catalyst says 10.12, but the actual driver is the Dell one from the website, and I am currently using the newest caps. Is the 10.12 still available or was it pulled? I am curious about trying it again, because I do not like the fact the Dell one hasn't been updated in couple of months.

 

I just dropped in a 920XM and with 10.12 I have been getting 45-60ish fps in a crowded org with most settings on good, except shadows with 2x aa

 

I wish you guys would specify if you are running it in windowed or full screen mode.

 

I have everything on ultra, with shadows on high, 8x AA. I get a low of about 35 in downtown org. Everywhere else is 45-60+.

The thing i hate most about this game though, is the way the framerate can stutter if you whip the camera around real fast in a large open area. It's like stuff is being loaded out of memory to the graphics cards or something. Once you spin around a couple of times, the framerate smooths out.

 

I set the slider bar all the way to the right (Ultra). I then turn the AA to 4x, and turn the Shadows and Liquid Effects to Good. This nets me 60fps 99% of the time, accept when I'm rendering all of the numbskulls that AFK right there in Orgrimmar by the old Auction House/Flightpath. I get 46-50fps there. I am in full screen mode, running in CrossFireX. Both of my cards are overclocked to 800/1100, and I'm using ThrottleStop 2.95 running 85/70 TDP/TDC. 24 multiplier with 5% BIOS overclock.

 

AA to x4 as well, and I am in fullscreen mode. My cards are not overclocked.

 

have you guys tried 8x? I haven't noticed it having any effect vs 4x or even no AA at all as far as framerate.

 

To all the people who are experiencing problem with WOW definetly do a fresh install, install properly your drivers. The game run just fine in crossfire with our systems.

 

I went ahead and set my graphics to the same as TurbodTalon (haven't flashed my cards yet and throttlestop was off when I tested this) and my fps are still great (around 50 in highly populated areas and 60 everywhere else).

Things look great on the RGB other than the ground clutter hides my goblin (and gnome) when I am out in the wilderness ;D

D.

 

Been running in fullscreen mode with Ultra, 8x, even AA for a while and haven't had issues until after installing Cata and landed in Lagrimmar - holy crap insta-freeze. My troll looked like he was doing the robot so yeah now I decreased the settings but still not happy.

My card's the antiquated GeForce 9800M GTS and cpu is Intel Core 2 Duo P8400/2.26 GHz so yeah will be happy when my R3 shows up...

 

Lol that's true xD

 

Same lol. I had to reduce the ground clutter, so I can actually see my character...

 

I can only run this with SLI turned off. With SLI on, i get 15-30 fps (sometimes lower) on ultra settings, water/shadows high. With SLI off I can manage to average 30-40 (sometimes 50-60 depending on server traffic) with ultra settings, water/shadows on high. Do you all think this will ever be resolved? Im new to wow so im unfamiliar with there patch support.

 

Blizzard has a habit of paying attention to everything but the important issues so probably not - but there are plenty of others with an SLI setup who don't have any issues. Maybe it's something related to your hardware/drivers?

 

Im running 266.58, not sure what others without problems are running.

 

90% of this thread looks to be ATI users. Can anyone how is having success running Cataclysm chime in and let me know what drivers your on?

 

with 10.11 and 2x aa, medium to high settings at 1200p I was getting 50-60 fps in lagimmar

 

if you are runing crossfire, I sugest you change the comandline to sue the DX11 support. I will use SLi and icnrease performance significantly. Just look at your launch icon. right click it, select propertis and add

-d3d11

(that is a space and -d3d11)

youll thank me later

 

Where do you add this after selecting properties? Im not seeing it... Also, why would u do this with SLI? I thought only the 460's and up support DX11

 

you are right, only for crossfire... my apologies.

And you add the parameter in the shortcut tab (right click icon, select properties, then select shortcut tab, and then add it at the end of the target string.

 

Hello All I am driving myself nuts... well actually the FPS drops in WoW are actually.

I have the system in my Signature which should handle WoW maxed or close to it but I keep getting FPS drops from steady 60 (vert sync enabled) to less than 15 after about 10 mins of play. I have an external Samsung 24" LED monitor running the game at native 1920 x 1080.

I have lowered everything in WoW video settings to Fair and even still after 10 mins of play my FPS drop to 15 or lower.

I completely reformatted my PC and did a fresh install of Windows 7 (64) as well as complete fresh install of WoW, running no add-ons (until I get issue fixed).

When I did the reformat I used the latest ATI Catalyst drivers directly from the AMD/ATI website for the mobility 5870.

I do not know what else could be causing the problem but I am beginning to think it could be hardware...

Loaded GPU-Z and my temperatures are good and everything seems fine there. I am pretty tech savy and have been building and fixing my own PCs since 1998, but I am ready to call Dell support and get them to look at this...

Unless there is something I may have overlooked or a fix I can't seem to find anywhere on the net.

 

can you rec your temps during gameplay? Use the log from GPU-z to see how they behave. I know you said that your temps are fine. But is the reading you get once you are out of the game or a full record of them?

Forgot to mention that recording a log, you will also see your frequency and other usefull information to see whats going on with your vid cards.

 

R1 owner here, the computer runs fairly smooth with details set to "Good" (note, testing in a 25 raid environment with lots of spells going around, not standing idle in some scenery). I'm pretty sure it can get better by OC'ing the proc, but I don't want to do that.

Temps for both cards are stable around 64-66C. However, if I set anything more than Low for Liquid detail, my 2nd card temp goes up to almost 100C! What's up with that, is it using PhysX or something ?

 

even if it's using physics it doesn't justify the 100 degrees on your card. I would check for cleaning of your heatsink and an eventual repaste.

Anyway it is wierd, i'm running almost everything maxed, water set to good and i get almost always 60 fps but major cityes when crowded (i get 45 / 55 fps there) (vsync on). One thing i noticed is that sunflare DO affect fps, if i put it to high i lose like 10 / 12 FPS

Edit: For the Alliance!!!

Edit2: forgot to say: one of the worst place (fps wise) is Twilight Highlands

 

yeah I was running the log feature when I monitored the temps and frequencies in GPU-Z.

The highest temp the video cards got up to was 53°C which is quite alright.
And the frequencies were 700/1000 during game play and drop to 100/150 when at desktop.

The fan monitoring feature doesn't seem to work right since it says my fans reached a max of 65 RPM, but I think my temps would be much higher than 53°C if the fans were only spinning a max of 65 RPM during game play.

I will keep trying different things... I need to load another game back up.. Either SC2 or Black Ops and see how my FPS hold up in something other than WoW so I can try to limit the issue down some more.

 

hey guys. i got average of 44 fps when i move and 60 when i stand, is that normal? i do experience some visual lag tho, not comfortable

 

Hi everyone, bumping this back up because it was soooo useful to me. I use my M17x-R2 pretty much exclusively for WOW. Since I got it I never updated any drivers of any kind and was only able to achieve an average of 30-32 fps in the game (WOTLK and Cata). The FPS would obviously drop during 25-man raid encounters as well.

So after stumbling across this thread, I upgraded to the AMD 11.2 driver package and WOW for WoW because immediately after that I can get about 100+ fps standing around in a crowded Org and up to 160 in a non-populated area.

It's regained my faith in the R2 as I kept wondering why a $6000 laptop couldn't push out over 40fps on WoW. Also, it's made me an avid reader and poster here now at NBR Thanks and I hope this can help anyone else out who is wondering about performance issues with their R2 and WoW.

 

Hi all,

Figured I'd just add to this thread vs starting a new one. Recently updated to 11.4 and 11.4 Cap 1 and now seeing flickering in WoW with crossfire enabled. I know that there was also a large patch done to WoW as well, so was curious if anyone is seeing any new flickering that wasn't present previously (either after the WoW Upgrade or the Driver update)?

 

here i'm running 11.4 official with cap1, no flicker at all. WoW latest patch. Make sure under CCC>Desktop Management>Desktop Color that the "Reactivate AMD color controls" button is greyed out. If not click on it and be sure to be at default with all the sliders on the same tab.

 

Thanks CptXabaras!

Performed the above and the flickering is still continuing. Wonder if it's related to the 4870 card specifically? No other flickering in any game, and didn't flicker until I upgraded to both 11.4 and WoW. No flickering at all if I turn off crossfire. So definitely related to crossfire as well.

 

With environment set to ultra, shadows/water/particles set to good/high, 1440*900 1x AA, texture set to high, I get anywhere from 55 FPS (uldum), to 100+ old world uninhibited.

I currently have wow frame rate limited to 37 though to avoid the fan from spooling up and down all the time.

 

For those who are interested and are having the above problem I listed (doesn't seem to impact everyone), but there is a known issue with the latest WoW update for AMD users with crossfire enabled:

"Shadow flickering with Crossfire: When using AMD HD Radeon video cards in crossfire with shadow quality set to high you may notice flickering issues with the game shadows. The current workaround is to disable crossfire"

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2416117192

What they didn't mention as a "workaround" is to set the shadows to either GOOD or ULTRA and the problem goes away

So if you experience flickering either down your setting from HIGH to GOOD or up it too ULTRA and you won't have
the problem anymore. Who knew??

Just an FYI for any who might encounter this...hope they release a fix soon!