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    gtx 675m really worth swapping a 580m?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by jthesmooth, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. jthesmooth

    jthesmooth Notebook Enthusiast

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    the 580m runs at 620 mhz and from what i heard so does the 675m with similiar architecture of the 460m. does the new 675m make that much of an improvement in games compared to the 580m? if so would i be able to swap out my 580m for the 675m to use in m17xr3 or will it only be available for the new alienware lineup coming up.
     
  2. aznpos531

    aznpos531 Notebook Evangelist

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    As I understand it and as some members here have mentioned before, the 675M is the same card as the 580M with a different name.
     
  3. SlickDude80

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    jthesmooth, AZN is 100% correct...the 675m is not a kepler, but a rebrand based on the old 40nm die. You want 680m which will sport the true 28nm kepler core

    You can take a 580m and flash it to a 675 right now

    The specs of 675m (which are identical to 580m)...its a complete rebadge

    GeForce GTX 675M
    GPU and Process 40nm
    CUDA Cores 384
    GPU Clock 620MHz
    Shader Clock 1240MHz
    Memory Bus 256-bit
    Memory Bandwidth 96GB/s
    Memory Up to 2GB GDDR5
     
  4. evgasr2

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    yee , you guys can flash it but , normal flash wont help , you have to force flash, and show off your friends that you are the first guy on earth with gtx 675.
     
  5. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    But does anyone have that vbios yet?
     
  6. evgasr2

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    yee , I can find that for you, but you dont have an gtx 580 though.
     
  7. long2905

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    Well i have one on the way, no later than the end of next week. But i will have to consider the risk also.

    @DR650SE: yeah if i do it would be purely for s and giggles.
     
  8. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Just seems not worth the effort. Plus, if a 580M is playing all the games sufficiently, why bother? Also flashing will gain no performance increase. May as well just overclock.
     
  9. GeoCake

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    Yeah, please do I wanna give it a shot... but there are probably no drivers for it?
     
  10. Toledano

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    Is the 660m kepler?
     
  11. Chaos92

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    Could flashing to 675m possibly get rid of the 78C throttle?
     
  12. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Nope, because Dell 580Ms work full power in any other laptop, pau1ow has one in his 15" laptop and it never throttles :/
     
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  13. long2905

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    That has been explained very thorough in the conference thread.
     
  14. paradigm

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    Yes it is..
     
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    The 660m is a true 28nm kepler based on the new gk107 core...but it is positioned for the mid tier. We don't know much about it because nvidia is being vague on the 660m specs.

    It can "up to" 384 nvidia cores and it can be clocked "up to" 835mhz, HOWEVER, we do know 100% that the 660m will come with a 128-bit memory bus which will cripple the card

    Still hoping to see the specs on the upcoming 680m, but it will probably be after the summer before that happens. Looks like nvidia is honing the 28nm manufacturing process on the lower end cards first
     
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    The thing is if Dell is basing throttling rules on the reported name of the card or other vBios effected identifiers then it actually MIGHT get rid of the throttle. Simply because the M17x bios would not see it as a 580m and would not apply the 580m rules.

    If someone has the 675m bios it would be worth a shot, I would not be surprised if it completely negates all the Dell throttling, at least until Dell gets around to updating the system bios to include a throttling profile for the 675m.

    Now, where is that 675m vBios?
     
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  17. SlickDude80

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    Interesting theory Yoda. Yes it would be worth a shot. I have a feeling though that the throttling is based on the DeviceID, not the name. But its still worth a shot
     
  18. katalin_2003

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    Flashing the 675M vBIOS might cause your fan to spin at full speed or not spin at all since there's no fan table for it in the M17x R3's EC, speculation of course.

    Fingers crossed for those who try it.
     
  19. pp_ph

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    I'm only considering kepler , maybe if they release a kepler 680m then it might be a worthy upgrade over my 6970. I just hope they stick to mxm slots.

    6970 is a nice card and that is even less powerful than 580m , so I'd say stick with your 580.
     
  20. evgasr2

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    I got the 675m vbios, il be uploading it soon, I cant remember where I kept it inside my 40gb hdd, lol
    I got it from a reseller.
     
  21. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    I doubt it will fix the bios because the rest of the nvidia cards throttle as well, but I guess it doesn't hurt to try. :)
     
  22. GeoCake

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    Upload upload upload!!!

    Also I've found with Optimus/switchable graphics one can recover from wrong flashes because the laptop always starts on integrated... :)
     
  23. flingin

    flingin M17x R2 Mafia

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    i cannot wait until i put 28nm GPU into my R2 :)))))))
    CF and sli without throttling :)))))
     
  24. YodaGoneMad

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    This is true, vBios flash on Optimus systems are pretty much risk free, even if the card is bricked you just reflash while running on integrated. Be sure to post your results, and a GPU-Z of your flashed card, if it works I would flash to 675m in an instant.

    I think there is a good chance it will work, it will just depend on how the throttling is coded in the bios.
     
  25. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    A change in hardware ids however, would render 3D useless as the certifications are specific to the particular card model. Eg the 485m is specification wise similar to the 580m and works in the R3 perfectly but with no 3D.
     
  26. evgasr2

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    UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I lost the file, but I guess I should have it on my mail box, il check it or il tell the reseller that I lost it and ask him to send it again, but it will take time , im sorry but dont worry , you will be the first to own a gtx 675m.
     
  27. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Wow you're such a damn troll man. -.-

    You just can't lose files in this day and age, and it will be in your inbox or deleted folder....
     
  28. evgasr2

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    il check n post back.
     
  29. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    evgasr2 all mouth and no trousers and this isn't the first time that you've made claims and haven't backed it up with evidence. I'm not saying that you don't have it, I'm just saying that you aren't the most reliable forum member is all.
     
  30. evgasr2

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    sry im not going to post it,
    but howver it was in my 2nd page of inbox.
     
  31. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Yeah don't post it, PM me it. Be a man! You'll get some good rep and redeem yourself if you do share it. I backed you up, so do the same and share the vbios. :)
     
  32. evgasr2

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    I got a message from reseller , not to publish it, its NDA protected,
    im sorry .
     
  33. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Why would they send it to you then?

    The 670M vbios is out there already, dunno why you can't PM me or widezu with the 675M one. Also it can't be NDA protected as all info has been released.

    You are digging your own grave here bro.
     
  34. evgasr2

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    im aint, I bet you can never get an gtx 675m vbios anywhere except me.
    because nvida is behaving rude and sent all resellers a message not to release any info ., idk thats wht he said and its NDA protected.
     
  35. wtferrell

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    Haha.. Yeah right. Let's let him go back under the bridge with the other trolls. If there was an NDA, they wouldn't have sent it out in the first place.

    I guess we'll all be waiting a little longer to see if it will happen to fix the throttle issue.
     
  36. YodaGoneMad

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    Wow, what a troll.

    Honestly, he should be banned, this was clearly just a stunt. You don't have the bios, it is NOT NDA protected, Nvidia has fully announced the 675m, there is nothing to protect. As soon as resellers actually get the card and dump the bios they can release it. NDA protected is not even a good excuse, bios files have no identifying information, so if you PM it to someone there is no possible way for Nvidia to enforce an NDA anyway, not to mention you aren't a reseller so you aren't bound by anything. You just don't have it, got backed into a corner, and made up a lame excuse to try and cover yourself.

    If you are just going to act like a 12 year old vying for attention please never come back to this forum, we don't need trolls here. No worries though, we will get it from a forum member who isn't just lying for a little attention.
     
  37. evgasr2

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    WOW im a troll , :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
    I didnt ask excuse , I have pm'ed the file. But I wont tell to which guy I did.
    find it your self.
     
  38. evgasr2

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    so , Happy now? so whatsup with the comments left in above posts?
    im very angry , you called me a troll .

    PS.the respectful owner who got it please dont publish it. go download it from that site within 24 hours , it will be deleted after 24hours.
    thank you

    OH fogot to mention : IF you brick your card im not responsible , :D , because no one had done the upgrade , if I had one I could have done , but I dont. but if you brick your cards , i can reprogram your vbios chip for free , because you had the power to do it.
     
  39. GeoCake

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    evgasr2, please PM me it :)
     
  40. wtferrell

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    Be angry dude. You dug this hole with your BS excuses. PM it to GeoCake who can check it out. Until you give it to someone who we know has the ability to check it, then you can post any BIOS you want, or "say" you sent it to someone who didn't check it within 24 hours so you deleted it.

    I'm in Law Enforcement, I know how games go.
     
  41. evgasr2

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    clue: I have sent it to a guy who have posted on this thread.
    thats all.
     
  42. YodaGoneMad

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    More troll games, there is no reason to PM it to some random dude in this thread, probably someone who doesn't even care about it. This is just more troll games.

    As someone else said, you will just wait 24 hours, say you deleted it and that the guy you PMed it to must not have seen it in time. Cute little game, but we aren't fooled, in truth you didn't PM anything and are just looking for more excuses that you hope we will believe.

    Honestly, at this point you can PM it to me, errel, or Geo. Anything else I am just going to label you troll and call you out whenever I see you. We don't need a child playing games on this forum, telling lies and getting people excited over nothing. You are lucky I can't ban you or you would already be gone.
     
  43. wtferrell

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    How old are you? Congrats Ahshan for being extremely juvenile. Nobody cares about your clues or hints. That's not how a community works. We're all here to help one another.

    Alas, congrats again for "having" the 675M bios. Enjoy it. :)
     
  44. GeoCake

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    Send it to me bro. I'll flash it the second I get it get it and report back
     
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    Subscribed. Got a popcorn too. Im gonna watch this thread. LOL!

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
     
  46. SlickDude80

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    Forget all the games and clues lol...there is no 675 vbios. Why don't you guys just wait till the cards come out en masse, then do the bios flash when its readily available
     
  47. GeoCake

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    BLASPHEMY!!!
     
  48. custom90gt

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    Lol, just stumbled in on this thread. You do know NDA has been lifted for the 675m right? I'm going to call BS on that. I think it's cute when someone gets their much needed attention on an internet forum.
     
  49. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Haha nice :D
     
  50. Speedy Gonzalez

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    I have GTX 780M vBios who wants to flash lol :rolleyes: :D
     
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