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    mSATA drive bay

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by anthony212, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. anthony212

    anthony212 Notebook Geek

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    Hey everyone,

    I received my m17x R4 yesterday from FedEx. It is beautiful. I opted for the regular HDD because i will upgrade it myself in the future. Which leaves me with one question...

    Where is the mSATA drive bay located in the laptop?

    I have looked through the online owners manual but all I can see is the 2 HDD bays and the RAM slot locations.
     
  2. Plutonium239

    Plutonium239 Notebook Geek

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    I was wondering the same thing, I have an mSATA drive coming today for my M17x.

    I couldn't find anything either, even when watching tear down videos, so I figured I would just open it up and look around. I have to get to the under keyboard RAM slots anyway.
     
  3. xXxPykexXx

    xXxPykexXx Notebook Consultant

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    mSATA doesn't go in a "bay" in the traditional hard drive sense. Isn't that the whole point?

    That said, I'm not sure where the mSATA connection is.
     
  4. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    it's under the palmrest!, above the bluetooth module. left side of the touchpad.
    i upgraded it myself to a msata version of the crucial M4
    you need to take the whole laptop apart including the screen.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Plutonium239

    Plutonium239 Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for the info! That's quite the disassembly!
     
  6. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    yes i replaced the bluray drive too, that was more dissasembly :)
    took my r4 apart exept the systemboard
     
  7. Plutonium239

    Plutonium239 Notebook Geek

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    Those m4 msata's are pretty hard to find
     
  8. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    mSata is also slower than a regular SATA3 SSD. If you are going with only 2 drives, i.e., 1 larger HDD for storage, 1 smaller SSD for OS and programs, there really is no need to go with a mSata SSD.

    it is nice though to have an option for a 3rd drive without having to dismantle the DVD/Blue ray drive
     
  9. xXxPykexXx

    xXxPykexXx Notebook Consultant

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    How much slower?
     
  10. Plutonium239

    Plutonium239 Notebook Geek

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    I'm going to be using two SSD's in the HDD bays for windows/gaming and an mSATA SSD to boot linux from.

    SATA2 = 3gb/s
    SATA3 = 6gb/s

    So the performance gain can be fairly great, however an mSATA SSD will still decimate a spinning HDD, even if it's SATA3.
     
  11. xXxPykexXx

    xXxPykexXx Notebook Consultant

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    So fast enough to leave Windows 7 where it is and install games/etc on the SSD.
     
  12. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    The msata port in R4 runs on SATA2.
    so you will not get the 500 mbs read but the 175 mb/s write of the msata crucial will be possible.

    Raid 0 of 1 msata crucial and 2 normal crucial ssd.
    fast enough :)

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  13. xXxPykexXx

    xXxPykexXx Notebook Consultant

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    I can't justify running RAID 0... Not worth the risk to data.
     
  14. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    mwa i can, have a 10TB raid5 nas where all my data is located, if my raid0 collapses no problem, no loss.
    but then again an normal hdd can crash like a raid 0 setup. dunno why people are so scared, i seriously never had a crashed raid0 in 8 years. *knocks on wood/tempting fate*

    if you have 1 hdd with all data and crashes, still all gone, why is that different from a raid0?
    if people are stupid not to make backups, then it doesnt matter what setup you run...
     
  15. xXxPykexXx

    xXxPykexXx Notebook Consultant

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    Likely because people don't back up as much as they should, and data is often irreplaceable.

    My external hard drive back up happens every now and then, but not frequently enough :p
     
  16. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    jup backups are key, everything can break.
    i even backup my nas to cloud every night just in case my house burns down :)
    only the 80GB of photo's i have is important and non replaceable, rest can be replaced.
     
  17. xXxPykexXx

    xXxPykexXx Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, but there's a lot of stuff that even if it could be replaced, would take a tremendous amount of time and effort to do so.
     
  18. SocaJam

    SocaJam Notebook Consultant

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    Xenn0x, where did you get your crucial msata? I have been looking up and down the net but I only see reviews and the 2.5" drives. I am looking to purchase 2 128gb c400 msatas! (I'm so sorry to take away from the topic.)
     
  19. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    bought it in the netherlands from alternate.
    took a few days but they delivered.
     
  20. Tapakidney

    Tapakidney Notebook Evangelist

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    Xen, doesn't it bottleneck your performance to have 2 on SATA3 and 1 on SATA2?

    Did you test your speeds with just the 2 normal Crucials on SATA3?
     
  21. Xenn0X

    Xenn0X Notebook Evangelist

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    yes i did test it.

    write went down with 180 mb/s and read went up with 200 mb/s. (350/1000 mb/s bench)
    so eventually having the more write was interesting then having the extra read speed :) see screens