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    nVidia GTX 560m

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by SSalp, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. SSalp

    SSalp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I didn't see anyone in the forums who said he had a 560m.
    I wanted to ask if everyone with a 560m also experiences throttling at an even lower temperature (73°C) than the 580m and if it is normal that the temperature of the card is around 57°C if unused. (room temperature is ~21°C)

    Also discuss about 560m
     
  2. azn4lif3s

    azn4lif3s Notebook Consultant

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    Temps seem about normal is also laptop cooling dependent. The sagers get temps to around 40-50

    Sent from my DROID RAZR

    Edit: my bad I thought it said 47. Clean out your vents with compressed air, don't vacuum it will create static electricity
     
  3. pau1ow

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    I think the GTX560M should also throttle at 78-79°C like the 580M does in the M17xR3 (and so the 670M that has been tested here).

    If you card idles at 57°C, there's definitely something wrong, you should think of repasting or cleaning your vents to lower it down. (should really be in the 40s)
     
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    its the EC that causes it to idle that high I think as my 460m ran about the same temp. nothing to worry about really there. If its throttling at 73C though, that could be the power throttle that plagues the 580m? :confused:
     
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    Oh really, idling @ 57°C that seems high to me especially for a 560M
     
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    Its been a few months since I have used my 460m, so I could be wrong here. Nevertheless, The load temps seem a bit high. I would vacuum out the vents and possibly even repaste the video card if you feel comfortable doing it. :)
     
  7. SSalp

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    Thx for quick answers :)
    I wanted to clean my vents yesterday but I couldn't find out how the compressor works^^. I will try it again when my uncle comes home; he knows how it works.
    I have no problem with repasting but I have no experience with laptops and I don't know anything about thermal pads. I've watched a few videos but I'm afraid I could destroy anything.
    Also my processor is idling at 65-70°C and that seems kinda high to me. Although it never gets higher than 85°C (even when I play crysis) so I think there's no danger.
    I will clean the fans tomorrow and tell you the results.
     
  8. SlickDude80

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    I think bigtony is right...there is a power throttle somewhere around 63-65c which drops the CPU by a few hundred mhz. THis can be bypassed with the 580m throttling fix that is easily found on here
     
  9. SSalp

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    I know I read the threads about that but the threadstarter there told me it's not necessary with the 560m. I don't feel any throttling at lower temps only at 73°C games get nearly unplayable.
     
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    I would repaste both the processor and the GPU and see if that fixes your issues. It should drop your temps by a few degrees. ;)
     
  11. SlickDude80

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    SSAlp ^^^^ this will solve your issues. OR at the very least, keep the back of your laptop elevated. You can try a passive notebook cooler or use a DIY method like a book or bottlecaps even. that will drop your temps ~5-7c

    The reason why widezu said its not necessary with the 560m is because the 560m usually runs cold. I had a 460m overclocked to faster than 560m speeds and it loaded @ 60c. Follow bigT's advice, you need a repaste dude!
     
  12. SSalp

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    The back of my laptop is elevated o_O
    Guess you're right guys^^ Do I need to replace the thermal pads too?
    But won't I lose my warranty if I open my laptop?

    €: I watched a video now and I don't know if I can do it without damaging the laptop. I've never opened one before and I don't necesserily want to try it with my 1700€ machine.
     
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    if you're not confident on doing a repaste, then your only recourse is to call up dell and complain about the throttling or loss in performance. You will have to sit on the phone while at least 1 tech goes through some diagnostics...then they will set up a time to replace your heatsink, maybe vid card, maybe motherboard lol...the stories i hear are crazy
     
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    hm maybe it's better if I do it myself^^
    Which paste and thermal pads do you recommend?

    And how about the warranty if I repaste it?
     
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    If you aren't confident, then you really should talk to dell. Perhaps get a new heatsink, but that's it...no new card or motherboard or LCD monitor etc. They often just replace things in an illogical manner instead of proper diagnosis

    Regarding warranty...if Dell want to be pricks, they can say that you messed with it, so no warranty, however, i've never heard of them refusing warranty because of something like this. I even heard a story where a tech complimented a member here on how good and clean his paste job was. My assumption is that as long as you aren't rude to them, they will treat you accordingly, but you only haev 2 choices...call Dell, or do a repaste

    If you do decide to do a repaste, get Prolimatech PK-1. FrozenCPU has it for $10.99, but shipping costs may be prohibitive to you. I believe PK-1 to be the best paste currently available. If you can't get that, something like AC MX-4 is close. Don't get IC Diamond as it isn't good for mobile lidless dies and IC Diamond is a real pain to work with. I don't think you need to replace the stock pads as long as they are still in good condition

    you can use my CPU guide as a reference on how to remove the back cover, fan and heatsink. The GPU is just on the other side but you'll have to do all the same steps. AND once you've done this, you'll realize how easy it is.

    Just take your time and ask questions :)
     
  16. SSalp

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    ok thank you :)
    I can do this, I worked with a lot of desktop pc's, it's just that i worked hard to get this laptop and I really love it and don't want to destroy anything.

    To repaste I just have to take out the heatsinks, is that right?
    I saw people who just put a drop of paste on the CPU and other using a card to elapse it. Is one way better than the other?

    Damn Dell why don't they do a good job to begin with -.-
     
  17. SlickDude80

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    yes, just take off the heatsinks.

    You'll need some isopropyl alcohol to clean the CPU/GPU dies. I just bought a large bottle of 99% isopropyl for like $3 at the local drug store.

    So take off fan, take off heatsink, clean the CPU/GPU dies, clean the copper shim on the heatsink, apply paste using method described in my guide...and put everything back together in reverse order. You might as well clean out the vents for dust while you have things out