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    trottlestop Question

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by buzzfgo, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. buzzfgo

    buzzfgo Notebook Guru

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    Can it be used with an i7 740QM? And if so any idea where to look for settings, or examples?
     
  2. V3_Shae

    V3_Shae Notebook Consultant

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    It can only be really used for overclocking on 920xm/940xm cpus.
     
  3. buzzfgo

    buzzfgo Notebook Guru

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    So am I stuck with what I have or can the 740 be OC'ed?
     
  4. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    The only way to overclock a 740QM is by using SetFSB and that's only if your board supports that. Not all do.
     
  5. johnsmor

    johnsmor Notebook Geek

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    I still don't get throttle stop, when I activate it, it just limits my mhz to the minimum amount and I get less performance. guess I am using it wrong somehow but don't see many options....
     
  6. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    ThrottleStop can significantly boost the performance of the 920XM CPUs.

    Right click on ThrottleStop and there is a menu there that lets you adjust your turbo boost multipliers and turbo TDP/TDC settings so you can run all 8 threads at full speed. Download a testing program like wPrime, run some benchmarks and you will start to get a better understanding of what ThrottleStop can do for your CPU.

    A 920XM has a default multiplier of 15. To request full turbo boost from the CPU, you need to add 1 to the default multiplier so the Set Multiplier value in ThrottleStop should be set to 16. This tells the CPU to use as much turbo boost as possible depending on how many cores are active and if the CPU is over or under the turbo TDP/TDC limits. The amount of turbo boost is adjusted separately in the 2 turbo menus.

    Check out the benchmarking threads for some examples. All of the top benchmark scores for XM processors are using ThrottleStop so it's worth learning more about this program.
     
  7. Blueneon

    Blueneon Notebook Consultant

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    Hello Unclewebb

    Sorry if this question has been asked before, but will ThrottleStop give me any performance benifits, as I am using a Core i7 740Qm processore?

    Not to overclock it? Or is this tool manly for overclocking.

    Thanks
     
  8. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    It is mainly for overclocking the 920XM and 940XM. It can also help stop your CPU from "throttling". Some programs like games and VMs get really unstable with all the aggressive throttling going on.

    But I am also wondering what is the difference between using throttlestop to unlock all the multipliers and simply using High performance setting in Windows power management for the 920/940XM. In High Performance mode HWiNFO says all four cores are locked at a 24X multiplier anyway. Is what I'm seeing correct or does throttlestop do something extra?
     
  9. [M]Miles

    [M]Miles Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    TrottleStop does something extra.

    Extreme processors have their multipliers unlocked, it's true. But their TDP/TDC is set to a low value by default (62/62), so your extreme processor can't really reach 24/25X on all four cores/eights treads because it reaches its max TDP/TDC before that.

    By allowing you to raise your TDP/TDC value to a much more upper value, TS literally unleash your CPU, but it will also make it runs hotter and its power consumption will also increase.

    So, setting the right TDP/TDC is mandatory ! For example, I'm running 84/63 with safety at 91°C.

    I really think that running a good set TS is better than O/C by the bios (because raising FSB also raise Ram , chipsets and mofsets frequency... not really good for stability).

    It's just allowing your computer to feed what your CPU really needs to max its performance, and make your CPU understand that you have a really good cooling system so it can go FULLLLLL Trottllle !!

    It's what I understood, UncleWeb will exactly tell you what it does. He's the creator of TS.
     
  10. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    Aaahhhhhh....much obliged! But....after searching for 2 hours, I cant find a way in Throttlestop to set the TDP/TDC limits. Read the documentation, searched the notebookforums, found the overclocking guides, right-clicked, letft-clicked, clicked every button of the program. I just don't get it. Sorry, but if someone can point me in the right direction I'll be very gratefull!
     
  11. [M]Miles

    [M]Miles Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ho !

    Ha ha XD

    Open TS, right click on the left area ! Where you have the 3 box to tic in the main window, not the options one. (I had the same problem the first time)

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    Choose Set TDP/TDC in the rollover menu.

    Hope I could help.
     
  12. johnsmor

    johnsmor Notebook Geek

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    Honestly I have looked for these setting (TDP/TDC) and cannot find them...Ohwell the 920XM stock is great 5% overclocked is even better... I even hear people saying set all of the cores or settin the different cores to 24x or something...way to confusing...
     
  13. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Right click in the throttle stop window once it's open. A menu will come up with Turbo Ratio, and Turbo Power Limit. That power limit is the TDP/TDC menu. Click that to adjust TDP/TDC. It's very easy.
     
  14. [M]Miles

    [M]Miles Notebook Enthusiast

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    You just have to right click in the area I marked, it will open a rollover menu where you can choose the set TDP/TDC option.

    You don't set the multiplier, you just allow full turbo throttle to your cpu by setting the Thermal design power limitation to a higher value. In other word, you are telling your cpu that you have a good cooling system and that it can dissipate way more heat.
     
  15. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks [M]Miles! Man, that is not really intuitive :D

    Found it, set it, run it! Thanks again! And Im saving that snapshot for later ;)
     
  16. [M]Miles

    [M]Miles Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is not the good setting for TS, I'm working right now, and... can't open TS on my workstation XD This screen shoot is from the TS readme.

    If you want more help, you have the wonderful AW M17x-R2 wiki, with a forum and a post dedicated to ThrottleStop.

    You will find very useful information there like setting an automatic switch to another profile for security, etc...

    For example, completing Wprime 1024, went from something like 430 seconds to 380 (don't remember the exact number)
     
  17. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    Hehe! I know not to use that setting, I just want proof of where to right-click! And I'll check out the wiki! Thanks!
     
  18. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Come on guys. How hard is it to right click on ThrottleStop and bring up the secret menu? Where's your sense of adventure? :)

    I originally hid the TDP/TDC menu so inexperienced users wouldn't hurt themselves or their laptop. It's a very powerful feature and ThrottleStop is the only free program available that lets you maximize the performance of the Core i7 XM CPUs. If I had some of this hardware, I would do some screen shots and write a big "How To" tutorial and make this much easier to figure out. Hopefully some user will do something like that for me so I can concentrate on other things.

    A few screen shots showing how the average multiplier goes up as the TDP/TDC setting goes up while running wPrime would be interesting.
     
  19. johnsmor

    johnsmor Notebook Geek

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    Found it, played around with settings didnt notice any performance boost, so not gonna worry about it.
     
  20. karonoaflc0

    karonoaflc0 Newbie

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    Many thanks to your description! I got more deep understanding about this part, It is exactly what I need.
     
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  21. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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