whats the biggest processor my m17x motherboard can hold??

hey guys, i got a m17x R1 with a intel core Quad Q9000

one day in the future i wanted to upgrade to an i7 processor but i was told that i couldnt upgrade to that because of my motherboard. is this correct? man with all the money i spent on this m17x i thought i would atleast get a motherboard compatible to use the newest processors.

if thats the case whats the biggest processor i can put in my machine?

 

QX9300, tenchar

 

wow that sucks.. yeah thats what they told me.

man just my luck.. so am i just SOL on getting a good processor?

could i put an m17x R2 motherboard in my m17x R1? is the r2 motherboards the ones that can take the i7's ?

what should i do in this situation?

i dont plan on doing this upgrade until 6+ months, should i wait until the m17x r3 comes out? would i be able to put just any m17x motherboard in mine?

 

your better off selling it in 6 months, then just buying an R2 or an R3.

 

Why are you so into i7 chips only if you go with a 920/940Xm ones you can call it an upgrade,the QX9300 is over most i7 CPUs.

 

The QX9300 is a very good over clockable cpu. I would not mind having one now for cpu bound games and with 4870 or 5870 gpu's would be beter than a i7 720 or even my 840 I would think, or as good. Put in a SSD and max Ram and it will do nicely.

 

+ 1 No point in upgrading the motherboard and processor. After sometimes you will want to upgrade the GPU and you will end up spending almost the same as you will get a new system.

Do like everyone advised you above. Save your money for few months and finally when you are ready, get a new system...

 

well i really dont want to sell this laptop and spend acouple thousand more for a better one i rather just do the upgrades myself so i can do them slowly or one at a time.

i guess im just hearing the hype of the i7 processors, i just thought they out performed the QX9300 atleast but i guess it doesnt.

so is the QX9300 a big jump from my intel quad core Q9000 that i have? its just seems like 300 more like its a newer model or something, i wouldnt think it would give a big jump in performance but i never did any research in the QX9300 yet.

what does the better processors even do in real life computer usage? because i no the ram and SSD will help alot in most i want to do, i do alot of multitasking not to much gaming i have 4GB of ram right now as well.

should i just do a ram and SSD and that will keep it fast for the next year?

 

the QX9300 is a great jump from the Q9000 and outperforms all low and mid end i7s. Do it only if you are into hard editing/gaming/benching etc. but don't just buy an R2 just because you "heard" that it's better.
An SSD will be a good investment for the R1 as it doesn't have any issues with them as the R2 and other brands have.Also going 8Gb of RAM won't be a hole in the pocket nowadays so also another good upgrade which along with the QX9300 should keep you from changing your rig for a few years and cost you cheaper also less hassle than a new one and selling this one.

 

q9000 2.0 GHz locked multiplier
qx9300 2.53 Ghz unlocked multiplier

When comparing speed with c2quad and i7 is like comparing apples and oranges.
c2quad= 45 million transistors i7 =70 million transistors. (figures for mobility chips obviously...)
This means that the i7 does more work at the same frequency. Also the i7 is a true quadcore whereas s a C2quad is really two core2duos with a cache interface. That (L2?) cache is twice as big in the qx9300 compared to the q9000 as well, if i recall correctly.
On a brighter note you can pick up qx9300's for a lot cheaper atm coz everyone wants an i7....

Hope thats some help

 

hmm thanks for the info guys, i guess the i7 isnt really that great as how i had it in my mind, i just thought it gave alot more performance to the computer all around.

also i am getting a SSD next. but in the future i did want to get an m17x r2 because they are pretty cheap on ebay right now and i want a red one, they look so much better, i got a silver and black one now "both R1"

but like you just said the R2 has issues with SSD's????? no way is it a serious problem? or will it get fixed soon do you think?

also is the QX9300 going to be the biggest processor that would fit in this R1 forever? like do they still upgrade those chips? for example in the future would there ever be like a QX9600 ever that would also fit in the r1? or would only the QX9300 be the biggest processor that could fit no matter what new chips comes out. sorry if thats a stupid question lol

 

core2quad is dead to intel now. I doubt there'll be anything new. You can get a rough idea of comparative performance by mutliplying i7 clock speed by 70 (million transistors) and C2quad clock speed by 45 (million transistors). This will give you a roughly equivalent basis to compare them directly.
IE qx9300 @2.53 (stock) 45x 2.53 vs. I7 @ 2.0Ghz 70x 2.0 =114 vs. 140
or put your q9000 against the same i7 45 x 2.0 vs 70 x 2.0 = 90 vs. 140

The i7's are good but the clock speeds can put you off if you dont realize the diff in transistor count

 

Let's not forget that the QX9300 has unlocked multipliers and it's a chip that OCs very well,benchmark results tell the truth,also I don't think you run applications that will use all your 4 cores.
Another advantage is the L2 cache which is at 12Mb for it and i7s have it at only 6Mb.
And as for new Q chips there won't be any new ones but hey with that monster I doubt you'll need more.
A big jump would be the Sandy-Bridge processors but it's a choice to make,personally I think it's a too big of investment and what you have it's by far more than enough.
As for the SSDs in the R2 there's a whole thread about it,I can't find it right now as I'm on my phone,it's a 4k issue(the speeds that matter the most I'll say-when you read and write a small amount of data which you use for games,applications,moving files)
So as a conclusion I'd say it's not worth changing for the R2 only if you think there's a logic in having the latest(technology evolves too fast so the latest of today is the legend of yesterday and so on)
After all these upgrades you'll have a machine that will last you a few good years.
Cheers

 

yerh my figures are on completely stock qx9300 with 0 OC done.

A qx 9300 is ample for whats around atm and prob will be for a while id say.. Really prob even the q9000 is enough, although with unreal engine games which tend to be more cpu bound it might start to show a little im not sure.
Id be holding onto my bucks for when it doesnt cut it anymore personally if youve only just ponied up Agree with the other posters on that one. My posts were to educate you on how to compare I7 and core2quads not to convince you to get rid of it Its a quick and easy formula that i worked out and is reasonably accurate and so easy to use

 

Don't get me wrong fellow NBR member i myself apreciate the accurate explanation that you posted really helps. On my side i wanted to show our colegue how vast the options are with less cost/hassle. Thank you

 

i think im going to get this m17x R2 thats selling on ebay, its a refurb but its very cheap at $1700 and its everything i wanted, its also red which is the color i really wanted in the first place but i ended up with a silver AND black m17x. the silver is broken "its for sale on here right now" and the black one im using right now.

i see it as id be able to sell these two m17x for about $1700 then id be able to buy that one. i only want $800 for my m17x

LINK:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...er-backlight-only-problem-800-great-deal.html

and in thinking about $1100 for my working black one, but im waiting to sell the silver first in the link

 

Absolutely no comparison between Q9000 and QX9300!! That's why a Q9000 brings about $50 on ebay and a QX9300 about $500! Depending on what you are doing QX9300 runs rings around most Core i series processors. Now whether you NEED a QX9300 depends on how you use the lappy. If you do lots of photo processing, transcoding or other CPU intensive stuff the QX9300 is your ticket...if not buy a fast Core 2 Duo like a T9800 and toss that in. Most games respond first to GPU speed then to CPU speed and only then to number of CPU cores. Also to realize the potential of the QX9300 you will need to learn how to overclock which is not hard...lots of info on it in these forums....that is where the QX9300 sings! There is a thread by Tyranus 7 on page 8 of this forum on upgrading to QX9300!