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    580M SLI throttling Discussion Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by neosis, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. Pion2099

    Pion2099 Notebook Consultant

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    I've been trying to keep up with you guys, but your brains seem to go 1000mph :D So I just want to ask:

    Is the throttling issue still pending or are the fermi editor and nibitor the solution?

    The fermi editor and nibitor seem to perform the same function at a cursory glance - is it safe to assume that only one or the other is necessary?

    Is there anything I should know about the warranty regarding these fixes?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Dell-Bill_B

    Dell-Bill_B Guest

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    Now you're just being cantankerous. ;)
     
  3. Johnksss

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    :D :D

    i should have kept my mouth shut.

    one of my gpu's just died. :D
     
  4. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    Are you serious? :confused:
     
  5. Johnksss

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    dead serious. died at about 8pm last night.
    tech is suppose to be here today to swap it out.
    what killed it? furmark bench test on 720P
    so user error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    Wow!! Didn't Nvidia put safeguards in place to protect against furmark damage?
     
  7. Johnksss

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    suppose to be anyway.
     
  8. Seblock

    Seblock Notebook Consultant

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    Would suggest you replace the card yourself. Don't let the tech guy touch your baby or they will screw it up. No kidding.
     
  9. Johnksss

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    nah, my tech is cool. he knows what he is doing. but i already have it apart anyway. but thanks
     
  10. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Mine, too. Even though I don't use him much, cool guy, and his technical skills are trustworthy. There are some real horror stories, but they're not all bad.
     
  11. SOS4DELL

    SOS4DELL A Notebook Philosopher

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    May the all mighty G*d of GPUs keep is soul in peace... ;)
     
  12. Shaden

    Shaden Notebook Deity

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    I think the almighty god of GPUs is too busy looking down on me :p

    lol but serious John you did push those things hard ...

    when you said "user error" are you having to pay for replacement or is it still covered under complete/advanced care ?
     
  13. Johnksss

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    they are replacing it.
    but when i say user error. i mean like the dummy i am....i ran furmark to beat out a bunch of desktop gpus.(which i did) and it wasn't really ran hard at all. hell..i did 3dmark11 at 885/L/1000 (single card though) dual cards as high as 880C. furmark was like 860/L/1000
     
  14. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    John - back in business yet, or still waiting for parts?
     
  15. Johnksss

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    looks like monday.
     
  16. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Out of curiosity, what was the max temp during that run?
     
  17. Johnksss

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    it wasn't the temps. it was the amp draw on the card.
     
  18. ludovic036

    ludovic036 Newbie

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    Hello,

    Could someone give me the reference of the heatsink gtx 580m in photo page 13 please?
     
  19. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    I originally posted those pics. Do you mean the part number? If so............


    JW8P7
    Assembly,Heatsink,Video Graphics Adapter,GTX2,M18X,Left

    Y3WC7
    Assembly,Heatsink,Video Graphics Adapter,GTX2,M18X,Right
     
  20. Dell-Bill_B

    Dell-Bill_B Guest

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    Speaking of back in business, had time to take your new baby for a spin yet?
     
  21. ludovic036

    ludovic036 Newbie

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    Yes part numbers skygunner27, thank you

    And the room number for the SLI cable on page 13 as well ?
     
  22. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    GDMRG
    Assembly,Cable,Nvidia,Scalable Link Interface,M18X
     
  23. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yes. It's running great, Bill. Very pleased with it. Thanks for asking. I played Crysis for about 3 hours (2AM to 5AM, LOL) with settings maxed out and there was not so much as a single hiccup. Also happy to report the fans are working as they should and the temps are very cool at idle and under load. I am not noticing any throttling in Crysis.

    Unfortunately, I had to do a clean OS install because I could not successfully clone the factory RAID0 HDD installation to my non-RAID SSD (gave up after 2 failed attempts). So, I have not finished installing everything and have not had a chance to run any benchmarks yet.

    When I finish work this evening I will send meeting minutes for you and Louis to review. After that I will put it through the paces with 3DMark 11 and Vantage to see how she does before diving into Metro 2033 and Left4Dead 2. (I have a month worth of missed gaming opportunities that I plan to recoup.)
     
  24. Mr. Fox

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    I'm going to date myself here, but one of the old classics that I still love playing now and then for nostalgia's sake is Quake II. To my surprise, the GTX 580M SLI works flawlessly with OpenGL. The AMD cards have horrible issues with some of the legacy OpenGL games and Quake II was unplayable with the M18x equipped with 6970M/6990M CrossFire. It would run with Direct3D on the AMD cards, but the resolution was so lousy and it was so buggy that trying was a waste of time. Not so with the NVIDIA SLI.
     
  25. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Good to see that you are flying with the 580's Fox, did you flash the vbios and what drivers are you currently on? - Dell stock or the reference drivers?
     
  26. ludovic036

    ludovic036 Newbie

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    Is not the same reference for France.

    Will someone reference page 13 of the heatsink and the two SLI cable for France ?
     
  27. bar-code

    bar-code Notebook Evangelist

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    Dell part numbers are all the same. as skygunner27 posted already

    JW8P7= ASSY,HTSNK,VGA,GTX2,M18X,LF (GPU HEATSINK LEFT)

    Y3WC7= ASSY,HTSNK,VGA,GTX2,M18X,RT (GPU HEATSINK RIGHT)

    GDMRG = ASSY,CBL.NVIDIA,SLI.M18X (580M SLI RIBBON/CABLE)

    I hope this helps :) If you really need the sli cable i have a new spare one i can post to france in normal envelope i suppose if your desperate
     
  28. ludovic036

    ludovic036 Newbie

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    The concern is that barcode sav change my dell but two HD 6990m by 580m GTX.

    But unfortunately I was not the 2 heatsink nor the SLI cable, and sometimes not find it in their stock rooms in France.

    So I end up blocking with my m18x. I would need is 3 pieces.
     
  29. vginside

    vginside Notebook Geek

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    Hi Fox,
    I too got new SSD SATA3 Corsair force 3 and was not able to clone what i did was
    1.> If you have corsair drive purchased like me i would recommned to go firmware update because old firmware 1.2 and 1.3 really s**ks very insatability...(you may need system with ACHI mode to update firmware it may not update otherwise)(even for other make this is highly recommended for stability)
    2.> Create a USB/DVD recovery media using Alien respawn with original drive
    3.> Turn off installed new SSD as primary drive and changed the bios from SATA operation mode from RAID to ACHI
    4.>Boot with recovery media and select factory recovery now (i.e dellete all partion and create only 'C:') after its done formatting and reinstalled new new files and then on first restart switch again bios from ACHI to RAID and you will be done and let installation proceedure complete... ( you will get 'Blue screen of death(BSOD)' until you don't switch back to RAID from ACHI)

    With manual installation of windows/drivers You may lose many software that originally come with dell and not available on website or anywhere else also its lot of time consuming where as dell recovery is real quick... Hope this helped you and help many others...

    Regards!
     
  30. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, I'm sure that information will help some folks, vginside. Thank you for posting it. I am very glad that you did.

    I have an AlienRespawn recovery disc and it also would not work; perhaps because it was a RAID0 restore disc. It works beautifully to restore to another RAID0 installation, but it simply refused to cooperate no matter what BIOS settings I tried.

    I had no issue at all with the clean install, but as you said, I lost AlienAutopsy and AlienRespawn. I'm glad I have the recovery disc in case I ever get a second SSD drive for a SSD RAID set up. It will most likely work then, as I have used it more than once with RAID0 reinstalls with the MomentusXT drives that were in my M18x before upgrading to SSD.
     
  31. vginside

    vginside Notebook Geek

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    For other HDD/SSDSATA2 normal work smoothly its some problem with SATA3 Drives which alien respawn does not support properly so Make sure this steps above are required for SATA 3 SSD only .... Can you put more light and exact and detailed steps where you are getting failure we would be glad if we could find solution for you...

    Regards!
     
  32. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    On a side note, I just found out that DVDfab(one of my favorite video/audio rippers) supports CUDA. It makes the decoding/encoding process amazingly fast as opposed to not having CUDA.
     
  33. Johnksss

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    nice find. i have that program
     
  34. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    I didn't even notice it until I installed DVDFab 8.1.0.5 now I have 8.1.3.2.
    On my 6990M CF systems, a 50GB BD-Rom would take close to 2 hours or more. Both GPU's are used through the conversion process.
    I love CUDA.


    [​IMG]
    http://i.imgur.com/8GDB1.png
     
  35. Johnksss

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    and badaboom runs pretty fast as well.
     
  36. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    As you can see from my pic I also use Badaboom. Badaboom is my favorite conversion program outside of commercial disc based media. Cuda is really amazing with this generation of software & Nvidia hardware. Badaboom was fast with my old GTX 260M compared to non-CUDA. Now it's unreal....lol.
     
  37. phobic

    phobic Notebook Consultant

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    At the sake of starting another thread, could anyone recommend where the best place is to purchase a pair of Nvidia 580Ms? I think I've had enough of ATI after sticking with them for years.
     
  38. ivander_atmojo

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    what happened with your 6970?
     
  39. phobic

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    Nothing really but I'm looking at options in case I get more frustrated with AMD drivers than I already have.
     
  40. inap

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    so has the throttling problem been fixed yet? sorry too lazy to read through all 50 pages, hahah
     
  41. Johnksss

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    pretty much so.
     
  42. inap

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    thanks john, duo 580m here i come!!!

    so what was the fix for it? sorry been out of the loop for awhile now.
     
  43. Johnksss

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    awesome, thanks again john.

    now time for me to save up for an xm!!!
     
  45. Johnksss

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    no problem.

    and xm's make these machines come alive in a lot of different ways.
     
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