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    680M is OUT!

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by ironminded, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. ironminded

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    When I go to configure it, the estimated ship date: July 5. :(

    EDIT: also - it's ~$300 more than the 7970M!
     
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    Thank god, now maybe AMD will feel more pressure to release some decent drivers for those of us who are using 7970m's.
     
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    maybe AMD is waiting for official scores from the 680M ;) :D
     
  5. Mr. Fox

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    AWESOME! Right after getting 7970M, too. I'm eager to see how it runs. AMD needs some pressure to release a good driver. These cards are beasts, though.
     
  6. ironminded

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    It will be interesting to see the "official" benches for the 680M as compared to the 7970M.

    While memory isn't everything the 680 looks hefty - 1300+ cuda cores and 4gb's of memory on a single card.

    I'm tempted to get the 680M just for the cuda availability. I'm teaching myself to code and being able to code into a cuda environment would be interesting.
     
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    So the card is still not available until July...

    Maybe we'd have something like 6990M then... ;)

    +$300 is a big downside...

    PS: AMD is 100% surely need some pressure to be more serious, can't believe there is still no official driver for 7970M even though it has been around the market more then a month!!! :(

    Do love all the features that NV cards provide, driver is really a big thumbs up for NV.
     
  8. bumbo2

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    1300+ cuda core? Yeah right, if that is true one card will do P10000 3Dmark11.
     
  9. Mr. Fox

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    I expect the GTX 680M SLI will be absolutely amazing, and worth every penny of the extra money.
     
  10. mitsuhide

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    default single GTX680M = P7400~P7600
    default single Radeon 7970M = P5800~P6000
     
  11. Speedy Gonzalez

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    can you downclock your 670 to 680M clocks and run 3D mark 11 ? that will give us a better idea :)

    720MHZ core 900MHZ memory also downclock your beast CPU a little to match mobile CPU's lol
     
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    Awesome post, mitsuhide. I hope you're right RE: the 680M capabilities! That, I would pay extra for. :)
     
  13. Aikimox

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    The card is probably based on the GTX 670 which means there's about 20-30% downclock. So at best, you are looking at about 6k 3Dmark11.
     
  14. spradhan01

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    1300 cores in a single card?
    I don't think so.
    notebookcheck shows 768 cores in a single 680m.
     
  15. Speedy Gonzalez

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    this are the specs

    Core Clock
    720MHz
    Cuda Cores 1344
    Memory Clock 1800MHz
    Memory Size 4GB
    Memory Interface 256-bit
    Memory Type GDDR5
    Direct X support DX 11
    MXM Support Yes, MXM 3.0, type B
    Cooling Dedicated Cooling System
    NVIDIA PhysX support Yes
     
  16. basilios01

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    Configured one this morning with estimated ship date of 6/18. Classic black chassis, 680m, 3610QM & 8GB 1600MHz RAM were the only changes I made.

    What I want to know is how Origin got the first crack at this card. No disrespect intended; just curious how they have it up and no one else does.
     
  17. ironminded

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    What Speedy said ...

    Engadget has a note [I wouldn't call it a review] up that details the specs as well and they are as Speedy has listed.

    While the shear number of Cuda cores looks impressive, I'm very curious about the clock speed this card will see. Both Maxpc and Engadget have noted that the 680M supports Nvidia's upclocking tech so it will be interesting to see if the 720mhz number listed is the down-clocked speed or the up-clocked speed.
     
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    I just hope they fix the DPD latency and the throttling for ever.
     
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    Wasn`t you that guy (lol) who prefered Nvidia GPUs after some issues with your AMD GPUs earlier? Why did you rush to buy the 7970M?
     
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    some people like AMvidia :p :D
     
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    I like nvidia too. I got my m18x r2 with 7970m , because at that time this was the best option and I couldt stand with my 4years old laptop, it's dying. Now 680m is coming soon.... things do happens !!! oh my broken heart.......
     
  22. caguioa

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    sooooo what do the people do that HAVE/ORDERING an m18x r2?
    obviously theyed pick 7970m, but now everyone is talking about how great this card is....is it worth it?!

    and on origin the price is....$500!!!!!! for a single card...then with dual gpu
    $1k plus?
     
  23. TheMatrixHacker

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    I feel your pain brother. I just spent $1250 last week on 6990 Crossfire. Still haven't got them installed yet. From the pricing it looks as if I could have bought that setup. I don't get how they price these cards. Like the 6990 is more expensive than the 7970. Makes no sense unless they are basing it on reliability and proven longevity.
     
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    oh yea. so with duo cards option, 500$ above 7970m xf, I'd like to take them. But Im wondering is 4GB vram rly necessary?
     
  25. Yee92

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    glad i hold on on buying the m18x, now its only a couple weeks at most for alienware to include them but i dont know if i should hold on for windows 8 as well
     
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    I would wait if I were in your situation bro. Your 460m sli is the way10000000times better than my old card which is 9650m gt lmao....
     
  27. ironminded

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    7990m will catch up soon :D :D :D
     
  29. ironminded

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    Windows 8 will featur an "upgrade" option from Win7 for systems purchased after early June.

    There really isn't a compelling reason, from a software standpoint, to wait on a new laptop at this point.
     
  30. lqm

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    Exactly. x990M vs the x80M is more apples to apples comparison. I'll wait.
     
  31. Mr. Fox

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    I still do prefer NVIDIA, but I am not a fanboy for either brand. NVIDIA driver support is superior and they have a richer feature set with PhysX and Cuda. But, there is no compelling reason other than performance. I have been a happy customer with products from both brands over the years.

    If GTX 680M SLI trumps 7970M CF in performance, I will most likely replace the 7970M. Right now, it remains to be seen. I'm really not liking the "green power" environmental garbage I am starting to see with GPUs. I'm not willing to compromise performance in the name of battery life or something else even more absurd. I do admit that I am disappointed that the GTX 680M is not going to be spec'd stock at 1GHz core and 1600MHz memory. I'm already able to run the 7970M core at 1GHz core with no temp issues.
     
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    acceptable If 680m is 20% better than 7970m, or heart attack.....or maybe less then 10% better than 7970m? muwahahhahaha!!!
     
  33. EviLCorsaiR

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    Was hoping this wouldn't be for a while so I wouldn't be disappointed if the 680Ms turn out significantly more powerful than the 7970Ms. Ugh, I'll feel bad if that's the case. :(

    Still, if it'd be ~$500 more for the SLi 680Ms, I'm not sure if I'd be able to afford it in any case. Oh well, I'm sure my 7970Ms will be enough to satisfy me for a while...when they have crossfire support...
     
  34. Mr. Fox

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    Using Catalyst 12.5 beta, CrossFire support is actually pretty decent with 7970M. But, you have to do some registry mods to make it work properly. But, I used to have to do the same registry mods with 6970M/6990M CrossFire, so that's not really anything new.
     
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    Your 7970m 3D mark result 37870 is alrdy outstanding, I assume 680sli won't go up to 40k
     
  36. EviLCorsaiR

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    I'm being lazy, would you please be able to PM me the information (or links to it) on what I have to do to make it work properly? :D Thanks!

    Ugh, the wait for the machine is killing me though. I was hoping it'd arrive this week but still no news from HID on the status of my order. :(

    On a more related note, doesn't 4GB of VRAM seem...really excessive? As far as I'm aware, even 2GB is overkill for a single monitor, people run 6-screen Surround/Eyefinity configurations on 2GB desktop cards! Maybe a game in 3-4 years will need more than 2GB for 1080p, but then for that kind of game wouldn't the GPU/shaders already be bottlenecking it far more?

    Sounds like the "bigger is always better" marketing tactic to me. Reminds me of the M14x R1 and its 3GB 555M option...absolutely no performance benefit over the 1.5GB version.
     
  37. Mr. Fox

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    No problem. I mentioned it on another thread this morning. If you would like more detailed instruction, let me know. The tweaks are noted in red font below... You have to change all of the registry keys that are not set appropriately. Some are already set correctly, and some are not.

     
  38. caguioa

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    soooo 7970m cf, has trouble running games? how so?!

    why is amd not doing anything? but i seen benchmarks on games from notebookcheck of cf 7970m's
     
  39. Mr. Fox

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    It's been like that as long as I can remember, caguioa. It's not 7970M CrossFire, it's all CrossFire setups that I have ever owned from 4870M through 7970M. It's just the lackluster AMD driver support. It's not difficult to do this, so it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

    Notebookcheck benchmarks are frequently not a good indicator of real world performance with NVIDIA or AMD graphics cards. I like them as a resource for specs, but benchmark accuracy is an area of opportunity for them, LOL.
     
  40. sirana

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    Wow can you please tell me your registry mods?
    I'm on 2 6970m's...
     
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    Look at post #37 :D
     
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    (blind me) Ah okay, I hoped for some magic :D Disalbed ULPS too, but what does the CFAutoLink change?
     
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    Now I'm happy i cheaped out on the video card. I can make due with a single 675 until the 680's are out and pick those up.

    As for windows 8 you can get the Release candidate now and I for one will not be upgrading. Why the hell would I want a tablet OS for my gaming laptop?
    Stick with Windows 7. A lot of tech pundits are predicting Windows 8 is going to be a disaster worse than Vista.
     
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    i tried chatting with alienware support on 680m but thye tell me they dont know when they getting them
     
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    To the person who asked if these have the throttling issue, let me answer that for you.

    According to the lead tech's over at Alienware there should be no throttling issues with these cards. Unless somebody in China ships the machines out with the wrong heatsinks like before :p
     
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    I'm hoping the 680m don't have all the headaches that I've been hearing about the 7970m. Really like to see some benchmarks on them too. An extra $300 over the 7970m is rather steep. Unless they work as they should. :D
     
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    I'd be prepared to pay the extra over 7970m if it is in the same ballpark (or better) as 7970m when it comes to raw power. I think the extra cash is worth while for less headaches, better image reproduction and such forth....and no, I aint no fanboy :)
     
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    that's great!
     
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    Have you used Windows 8 ? I installed the developer and consumer version and IMHO windows 8 wasn't that great. Even after you customize the environment it just doesn't have the freedom I'm used to. I'm assuming that Windows 8 will be directed towards tablets and touch screen devices.
     
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    So we really don't have any concrete prof that 680m>7970m I just want to get most bang for my buck and 7970 is way cheaper
     
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