AW18 1070

i picked up a 1070 and I’m trying to use it in my AW18, I’ve got it installed, but I keep running into the issue of either getting frozen even just sitting at the desktop for a few minutes or the new windows BSOD NVIDDMKM.SYS has failed

Any ideas as to what to try?

 

Are u in SG Mode with an unlocked bios?

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Unlocked A12, and I am indeed in SG mode

Edit:
I'm also experiencing the issue that if I reboot, the driver install cannot be accessed on any OS, it says windows cannot find the specified file or path when I try to run the installer, if I go into security and take it over, then sometimes I can access it, otherwise I have to delete it and reinstall it, let it fail then copy over the modified .inf

Windows 10 cannot access it, and Windows 8.1 cannot access it(Set up as dual boot)

 

Running UEFI? Legacy support on?

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UEFI with legacy bootrom support enabled as well, my next thought is a clean install of Windows 10

 

You could try that

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From what I understand the 1070 doesnt work in the AW18 because AW18 uses LVDS

Has this changed recently?

 

Woodzstack sells 1070's that are set up to use optimus and LVDS, apparently Intel has patched something or other and it allows the use of 1070's with optimus now, even on AW17's I believe.

Any other thoughts on what may be holding it up to try if the clean win10 install doesn't work?

 

Ah right thats correct I forgot about that.

 

uninstall the nvidia drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller reinstall and i believe you are modifying the ini file.

 

I am using a modified .inf, and I’ve used DDU to remove the drivers already for each attempt. At the start I only got error code 43 in device manager, now with 390.65 I get the new windows bluescreen

 

I did a clean install and I’m still getting the blue screen failed nvlddmkm.sys with driver installation.

 

Had Almost identical driver problem in my 980m SLI in all versions of windows. Didn't know exactly what was the case.
Try installing only the display driver. Not audio, not 3D crap or anything else.

 

driver by itself didn’t help, still the same issue.

I stripped the 18 down again and placed more thermal pads in spots that had small chips that were not covered(between the large grey chips) and all the tiny black ones down one side that somehow I blindly forgot to cover.

I believe I’m using section 288 for the modified .inf, I was advised to replace one number with mine, but that isn’t enough to mod the drivers so that they install.

Edit: Here are the lines I inserted to modify the .inf
NVIDIA_DEV.1BA1.05AB.1028 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070"

%NVIDIA_DEV.1BA1.05AB.1028% = Section288, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BA1&SUBSYS_05AB1028

 

Try setting the fans to maximum speed and from the nVidia panel application, set the GPU to maximum performance and see if the driver crashes again.

 

I can’t get in far enough with the 390.65 driver to set fans or use the NVidia control panel. The previous version code 43’s

 

So the 1070 doesn't works on the AW18?

 

Someone said it has been working

 

I've only gotten it to work for minutes at a time on 388 before the system hung at 49c, 390.65 would bluescreen every driver install and reboot when I modified the .inf myself, with the Laptopvideo2go .inf I get a bluescreen when the driver is trying to install.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/off7uj9k63wy2uw/011618-10890-01.dmp?dl=0

 

I think the 1070 was defective, I've sent it back for an RMA

 

When you get your replacement, please update us as to how it went. I'm pretty keen to go the 1070 route, but reluctant to drop that much coin without being absolutely sure it will work. Would be a great upgrade from my m290x's.

 

hello im new in the forum
im not sure at 100
but aw 18 use lvds
for 10xx it use edp

 

With the unlocked A12 bios you can use SG Mode which will allow you to use 1 10 series card

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980M SLI is another good option basically the same as 1070 so I would go with whatever is cheaper

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How much for a Nvidia MXM 3.0b 1070 card? And where can I find one to buy?

 

there are lot in ebay and different mxm models

 

Eurocom has a standard MXM 3.0 1070 taobao is another good option besides eBay

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Thanks, I`ll look into it.

One of these could work?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeF...069589?hash=item3d57625e95:g:0jwAAOSwQN5aaisC


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Clevo-P150...781583?hash=item1ed1cb510f:g:XyMAAOSw9gRZ5gw-

 

regardless, you will have to grind the little hump on your heatsink and make it uniformly flat. Forget either of those, eurocom based off crappy gecube design. only MSI really got the card design right.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GTX...173217?hash=item25eb29c561:g:eboAAOSw-RFaX9la

 

MSI 1070 won’t fit in the M18x I believe

 

MXM GPU Resellers in the world
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mxm-gpu-resellers-in-the-world.804197/

 

What he said...

Sniff,
Homer

 

980M SLI will roughly net you 1070 performance, and you can force it for games that don't support it natively, but your mileage will vary

 

Around the same cost though I think it's better to have 2 dedicated cards over 1... Better for rendering as well but again I would go for whatever is cheaper of the 2 since they are under 5% difference in performance

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One word: power. The 980M SLI pulls more juice than a single brick puts out (at least for the M18x). The 1070 is essentially a wash performance wise, might be better depending on SLI support, et al, but for 1/2 to 2/3rds the power draw. Cooler system and leaves more potential room to overclock the CPU to boost physics scores.

A 1080 would be a no-brainer in either case.

Homer

 

True in those departments for sure... However you can run 980M SLI off a single 330W Brick. Whatever is cheapest of those 2 would be what I would go for personally though... If you have an AW18 you can't do the PSU mod so 1070 would be a better bet but for the M18x R2 either would be good cause you don't have that power limit there

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If I'm willing to roll my own merge box and spend $200 on a second power brick. When playing Witcher 3, I routinely tripped the single power brick and had to unplug and plug it back into the mains. Anyway, when is someone going to post pics and how to for a 1070 in a M18x?

Homer

 

Probably not because it's not worth the effort and price vs 980M SLI


This may change with volta

 

I'm hoping Volta reverts back to a regular MXM 3.0b size... It will most likely if they went with HBM2 but with GDDR6 idk

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Clevo already threw the standard out with the full 980 MXM, standard out the window for everything by Pascal, doubt it will come back to normal with volta, especially with HBM requiring die design change.

 

Seen with non standard it's forcing users to upgrade to a whole new laptop every year or 2 which I know alot of people can't afford to do.

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Do you see my signature, that all my systems are old? I'm not subscribing to that system any more. If standards go out the window, then I'm not playing a game where everybody thinks they're right.

 

I'm someone who changes systems frequently so I'm hoping to be keeping my P870DM-G for a while once I get it

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I don't understand the cost comment, 2x 980m's = $1364.4 and 1x 1070 = $701.69 or 51%. Prices from alezka.com website.

Hell... if I knew the 1070 would work, I'd sell someone my 980m's to cover the cost of the 1070.

Homer

 

That price is completely out of whack....you can get new 980Ms on ebay for 380$.....

 

That makes the cost a wash with performance flip a coin depending on game. So these are the two sides:

2x980m SLI - complex, lots of power, power throttling

1x1070 - single card, lower power, shoehorn into casing, optimus

I'm happy to take the latter to eliminate the former.

Homer

 

You can pick up used 980M for like 300-400$ on eBay and probably even less on taobao

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980M SLI is not complex at all, yes it eats 200W, no throttling if you do the reset trick. You can force SLI on all games but YMMV.

1070 is far from "low power" to run right it needs 150-175W. Optimus is not a benefit, knock off 5-10% off a standard 1070 MXM performance routed through PEG instead of optimus.

 

thisis correct with that performance drop the 1070 performs basically on par to 980M SLI, hence why I always say just go with whatever is cheap of the 2 options

 

I don't mean to de-rail here, but where can you get a 1070 that would fit in an AW18? I've looked all over and somehow haven't seen options for upgrading the GPU on an AW18