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    Help with Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by aliengamer, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. aliengamer

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    hello, im wondering how good my Alienware M18xR2 would play COD Advanced Warfare or should i get it on ps4? my specs are:
    GeForce GTX 675M
    Intel Core i7-3840QM [email protected]
    12.00 GB RAM
    1920x1080 , 60Hz

    thanks.
     
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    you should probably get it on PS4. The PC version is really broken right now. Lots of "downgrades" need to be done to run optimally, such as: setting mouse polling rate to 125Hz instead of 250, 500 or 1000 so that aiming works.

    Connections are broken and sometimes a map will take 2 minutes to load, only to kick you back to the lobby saying connection lost. My preliminary assumption is that it needs about 300 patches.
     
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    thats a bummer its so messed up on pc.
     
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    Actually, it's working amazingly well for me and I have nothing to major to complain about. When NVIDIA releases an optimized driver with a profile for this just-released title it should be dynamite. I have only played through the second chapter, but really loving it... looks outstanding to me.

    I read about the horror stories, too. If my experience is any indication, they are exaggerated. Bear in mind, I do not do online multiplayer, so I can't tell you what that is like... don't care to check. In order for SLI to work you need to manually set AFR2 in NVIDIA Control Panel. The only question I have in your case is whether the 675M with 2GB of vRAM is going to be an issue. If you tone down the settings it will probably work OK. But, this game chews up every bit of the 4GB of vRAM available from my 780M SLI using these insanely high quality settings. Guys that were saying 8GB on 880M was overkill were way wrong on the new titles. Watch Dogs easily uses up 4GB as well. (Maybe it's caused by bloat from lazy game coding, but it is what it is.)

     
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    Sorry, my experience was PURELY about multiplayer. I have not even finished downloading single player yet.

    I do not tell people to get or not get a MP-heavy game based on a good or bad SP experience. It's like telling someone to buy Tomb Raider 2013 for the multiplayer. It's a fun few hours probably, but it's not the reason you buy the game and not where you'll likely spend most of your time, you know?

    Single player I've heard beautiful things about it running. And yes, even dropping settings to "high" (all textures, normal/specular maps, shadowmap size, turning off all forms of AO, etc) it still uses 4GB vRAM. I have turned on the caching during loading screen option to try and reduce stuttering in-game too, so that should use even less. There's actually no reason for me to NOT run it on ultra. Also, forcing AFR2 seems to work really well for it; no problems with flickering or anything.

    Also, game crashes every time I change a single graphical option in MP. CRASHES. EVERY SINGLE TIME. I don't know if SP lets this work okay, but MP is atrocious right now. It's really really sad too, because it's extremely fun when it works.
     
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    The OP never mentioned whether he was asking about MP or SP though. So, now he has a nice balance of info to go off of to make a decision. :D

    I know I might be a freak, (maybe not for my age group,) but I never buy any game with any thought about whether multiplayer the experience is good or not because single player campaign is all I am ever looking for. I maybe played 12 to 15 hours online in the past year. I tried to not install COD:AW MP at all and found I had to install it in order for SP to work. Otherwise, I would not have wasted any drive space on the MP installation.

    Sounds like MP is the same kind of complaints as COD: Ghosts, which performs flawlessly for me in SP campaign.
     
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    True, Ghosts worked flawlessly in SP for me. Anyway, I'm trying to do a video on the MP, and then later one about the SP. Maybe I will show you some of the horrors later Mr Fox XD
     
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    After Ghosts, I think I will avoid COD for a while, there seems to be a lot of graphics issues right now for AW, I only play MP so I think I will pass :(
     
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    COD has been off my radar since any release after modern warfare... Still play cod2 with a bunch of clan buddies I've been playing with since 2001'ish... The whole COD franchise became a console game in my opinion after modern warfare.
     
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    Please this game works with the xbox 360 controller? Or its just keyboard and mouse control? Thanks.
     
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    How may fps do you get on Advanced Warfare on your 780M SLI max settings 1080p? I could not see the video on my computer at the moment (I'm at work).
     
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    Yes, I think so. I'll have to double-check to confirm that since I don't like using a gamepad controller if it is at all avoidable.

    Edit: Yes, it does. I just tested it for you with my wireless 360 controller... fully supported. See image attached.

    s1_sp64_ship_2014_11_04_10_36_46_591.jpg

    I have to redo the video because it was more than YouTube can handle. It choked on it and finally gave up. It will be uploaded sometime later today. I haven't played in 1080p yet, but it is more than smooth and playable in 1440p, so no worries. You can see when the video is finished being re-encoded at lower quality and uploaded.

    Edit: looks like the lowest is around 60 FPS, average in the 80-90 FPS range and max over 100 FPS. This is 780M SLI without any GPU overclock. See attached.

    s1_sp64_ship_2014_11_04_10_50_43_077.jpg s1_sp64_ship_2014_11_04_10_51_23_023.jpg s1_sp64_ship_2014_11_04_10_53_32_689.jpg

    He he, I just don't get the hate for COD SP campaign, unless the MP online is so bad that it just jaded everyone's view of SP. I don't see the SP campaign gameplay being any less amazing than the BF or Crysis franchises and I love all three franchises to pieces. There's absolutely nothing I can identify that is adverse about the experience compared to other titles in the same genre.
     
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    Damn, those 780M SLI we have, Brother Fox, are a beast!!!

    I pray my 780M SLI will work extremely well on Arkham Knight or GTA V.

    Btw, how do I change game profiles in Nvidia? Like using Watch Dogs on profile or something?
     
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    Depends on how much you need to tweak. Simple things can be done using NVIDIA Control Panel, but advanced tweak require NVIDIA Inspector. Most of the time I can do what I need to with NVIDIA Control Panel.
     
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    I will mainly be playing online...of course ill go through the campain once. so maybe ill be going with the xbox one or ps4 version,also got more friends that play on console
     
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    Just for simple things. I go to Nvidia Control Panel, right? Where should I go from there, brother?

    Also, what's your average fps on Watch_Dogs?
     
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    Works perfect with a Xbox 360 or Xbox one controller with none of the problems the mouse users were having .
     
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    I think this is fitting here, so I will quote my post from the Alienware gaming videos thread...

     
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    What is likely happening is that SMAA T2x is defaulting to SMAA M2GPU when SLI is turned on, but they did not code the game to return this. The temporal filter in SMAA does not activate with SLI enabled; can't use it in Evolve, can't use it in Crysis 3, can't use it in Watch Dogs (to my knowledge), etc. SMAA M2GPU is basically 1x SMAA + 2x MSAA, where the performance hit comes from. SMAA T2x, like SMAA 1x, is a performance hit of about 3FPS at most in almost any game it's placed in; which is why it was created. The only game that managed to make 2x SMAA work very well is Evolve; which manages to simply make 2x SMAA and remove the temporal filter (and it defaults to this the minute you launch using SLI enabled) and the performance hit is negligible, similar to turning on FXAA.

    If you run your game on 1 GPU and use SMAA T2x, you might notice that shimmering and such of objects in motion is reduced, which is where SMAA's temporal filter gets its beauty from. The problem is that the only AA form that manages to apply a temporal filter in SLI is TXAA, and nVidia aren't helping the people behind SMAA use their filter for multi-GPU. Also, TXAA is temporal + multisample, so the performance hit is similar to using MSAA, as well as the blurring of the scene is quite high and sometimes textures can get muddy in motion (though this is rare). This game lacks TXAA though, so I use 1x SMAA for my AA in it.
     
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    So how do I tweak Nvidia profiles for certain games?
     
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    HAHAHAHAHA Mr. Fox's video has been blocked on copy right! Unbelievable!
     
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    Wow. WOW. That's some kind of crap right there. I would make some serious heat if they block the review I'm working on.
     
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    I have it for my machine (M18x R2, 3920XM dual 7970Ms 16GB 2133MHz RAM), and if you leave it at default it runs well, but looks horrible. Upping the settings and I saw 11.2GB of RAM usage. CPU hit thermal limits, and is now clocked at x40, x42, x44, x46, +248mV and usage is as high as 87% at times. I even forced my fans to 100% constant speed.

    I intitally turned EVERYTHING to max, got 5 fps. FIVE! Disabled crossfire, got 2 fps.

    Lowering settings & joining a game, it takes about 10 to 20 seconds for the stuttering to calm down. I thought Crossfire was broken, and disabled it again, and my frame rate plummeted. So crossfire works. FOV set to 90 always though.

    Today bought Advanced Warfare for my brothers PS4 (yes, nice brother am I not?), and it looked GREAT, no hiccups, no crashes. It looked better than on my PC. How am I gonna sleep tonight....

    I'd say you've got No Hope, Bob Hope, and Envelope, with a single GTX675M until some corrections are made - if you expect your game to both look good & run well. I'd like to be proven wrong though...

    If you have a PS4 - get that version.

    EDIT: After reading this thread, I am comparing PC Multiplayer to PS4 Single Player modes.
     
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    Wow, so Crossfire 7970M runs like crap on this game? What about Single Player? How many FPS you get max?
     
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    Next Gen lol.
     
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    They can't block it, it comes under Criticism at the very least.
     
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    What settings would you like?

    BTW - Steam just updated it a few mins ago, so something might have changed.

    Settings?

     
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    Blocked for me too.
     
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    Max settings if possible.
     
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    Everything enabled, and maxed out is 5fps and 2fps.

    I would need to drop:

    Quote:Cache Sun Shadow Maps/ Cache Spot Shadow Maps: Keep these settings OFF unless you have more than 3 GB of GPU memory. If you have less or 3 GB and you keep them ON you will have very low texture resolutions, making the game look awful.
    End quote.

    Or it would run as stated.

    I'll be right back with your results.

     
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    5fps for dual crossfire???
     
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    OK - everything enabled / maxxed-out, with Crossfire enabled. Lobby 0 to 4 fps, in-game (unplayable really) 0 to 2fps. Eventually the game crashed, and Windows required a logout & login to function normally so as to type this.

    On another note, a buddy just dropped-in with an Asus Overclock Edition GTX980, so trying to get that running in between this.

    Any other settings you'd like me to try?
     
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    Incorrect. Even with 4GB memory it still shows exceedingly low quality textures. With 8GB and both of those settings OFF, the game uses 7700MB of GPU memory, meaning NO GPU ON THE PLANET AT ALL has enough vRAM to power this game. At least, this is what is reported by a user with a 8GB 980M who has since checked it and reported that his vRAM usage hit that count, and also reported that he needed to keep those settings off to see good textures.
     
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    Not my quote pal, I pulled it from a site that was testing settings for the game.

    Alas 2GB Video RAM is insufficient for me :(

    ANYWAY, I've a GTX980 in front of me right now, so I'd like to be able to confirm / deny this, but alas at 11.5" long, it is an inch too long to fit in the case. So I will find my friend a new case tomorrow. Rest assured I will play with the thing myself... :)

    Need I mention he is to run that GTX980 with a 4yr old CPU? :)

    It is 'Bon Fire Night' here in the Uk, I feel like I'm living Advanced Warfare for real!


     
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    I wasn't bashing you, I was just correcting your quote is all.
     
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    Well, let's try Single Player mode. How many FPS do you get for Crossfire 7970m? Maybe multiplayer is buggy.
     
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    Reported VRAM usage in this game is meaningless. It caches as much as it can to completely fill up video memory. If you ran it with a Quadro K6000 it would use 12GB LOL. It's still butter smooth at 1080p max for people with 2GB 670/680/760/770 cards.
     
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    That's good to know. That might be why it runs so smoothly, too.
     
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    I'm not saying it is not possible to have Advanced Warfare butter-smooth on my PC, I am saying that at default it looks terrible doing so.

    The PS4 is head and shoulders better. Putting my settings up to match that quality results in absolutely awful fps.

     
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    Well it crashed first time turning up the settings.

    OK, campaign mode, min fps 45 avg about 55 - 65, standing still in subway ~105 fps.

    Settings were:

    Sync: no
    Res: Native 1920x1080
    Tex Quality: Manual
    Tex Res: Extra
    Normal map res: extra
    Specular map res: extra
    Anisotropic filtering: normal
    Shadows: On
    Shadow map res: High
    Cache sun shadow maps: off
    Cache spot shadow maps: off
    Depth of field: low
    Motion blur: off
    Screen space ambient occulsion : off
    Medium distance ambient occulsion: off
    Sub surface scattering: off
    Depth prepass :eek:ff
    Post process AA: off
    Super sampling: off
    Shader preload:On
    Shader preload during cinematics:
    Bullet impacts: On
    Daylight light limit: 4

    Hope that helps someone out there.

    Anyway, PS4 looks way better. No contest. It shouldn't, but does.

    Sorry, didn't work out how to capture the screen in-game.

    Peace out.








     
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    I think you may just be having some new game bugs that the AMD drivers are not playing nice with. NVIDIA has already released new drivers and SLI profiles for this title and it looks fantastic ( see videos here). It would not surprise me for AMD to release a driver update that takes care of it. There is no reason for PS4 to look better at anything, so it almost has to be be either drivers or something weird happening with your GPUs.
     
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    The is some slight tearing at points, but overall, I believe CF is working well. Running on a single GPU is dead slow.

    No doubt AMD will update their driver, but I'd bet a big clock the slight tearing remains.

     
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    i dunno if there is a better place to ask this here,..but how is the xbox one version compared to ps4??
    ive herd ps4 has fps issues but xbox one resolution will drop a bit...but overall ive herd good things about xbox one version..but i dunno..anyone played both?
     
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    Probably Console Review Forums. ;)
     
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    Hey, I did that review I said I would, so here's my review on the state of the game for PC right now:
     
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    That is a really good review. You did a nice job on it, bro. It is a really fun game and I hope they fix the issues you pointed out. As far as I can tell, SP campaign does not have all of those issues, but I haven't played long enough yet to know for certain they do not exist in SP also.

    The crash might be due to not having SP installed. As you pointed out, I had to install MP to play SP. Since I play SP, maybe the fact that I have done so explains why I do not experience that issue.

    One thing I really hate about BF3/BF4 is having to use a web browser and plugin. I'm glad that they did not do that with COD.
     
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    Oh I did have SP installed; I just did not launch it as yet. But I'll try and see if it still crashes. BF3 and BF4's browser plugin crap needs to stop too. They designed it for people with smartphones to enter/exit games etc, but alt-tabbing their game puts it in a 720p window and makes it "always on top" which makes using a browser (especially on a single screen computer) difficult. In trying to advance, they've gone backwards.
     
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    OK ladies & gents, I see MY problem here...

    No matter what Graphical Task I ask of my M18x R2, GPU-Z on another screen reports that the pic-e 3.0x16 bus is pegged @ x8 1.1

    Any ideas on how I can resolve this?

    I only thought to look when my favourite game of all time (MW3 Multiplayer) was reporting lows of 70ish fps, when usually it is pegged at 91fps constantly.

    I just know I've seen this problem before, but alas I cannot remember how I solved it, nor is there much to found by internet searching.

    Thanks... and when it is resolved, I'll get back to you with better benchmarks for this game (no doubt).

    EDIT: installing latest driver (thought I had the latest), now enables the PCI-E bus to rise to x8 2.0 for stuff like Youtube, and x8 3.0 in gaming.

    Does anybody else running CF / SLI have their bus rise to x16 3.0?

    Thanks...
     
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    x8 3.0 per card is the highest you're gonna get. There are only 16 PCIe lanes in total.
     
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