Just got my 880M twins!

I don't think it's a wild guess, I think it's an educated guess. Yes, I also think the problems people are seeing with the 880M are to do with some kind of bizarre implementations by NVidia with the drivers or vBIOS, so I agree from that point of view that an 880M is not just an overclocked 780M. I'd rather have an overclocked 780M I think!

 

This is all a massive shame. I'd love to know what exactly is going on.

 

They may have put extra limits since it will throttle more often than the 780m.

 

Well, I just ordered the 570W wirh 4960X and 780M SLi today, will get it within two weeks

Gonna try and use the 880M in my P570W and see how that goes.

 

Thanks for your reply Fox.

 

Yes, this is exactly what I think. I think it's a fantastic piece of hardware that probably just needs to be tuned correctly. GTX 780M didn't perform well at first either. In fact, the 780M also has lousy performance with a stock vBIOS. And, if you don't know how to set things correctly as far as voltage, power and temperature targets it is still not very impressive even with an unlocked vBIOS.

 

Great service from Upgradedonkey!

They are sending me a new 880M card to replace the 880M that failed and asked me to send the second 880M card back for check.

Im gonna send a mail to eurocom and ask their opinion of my 4500point firestrike run (single GPU with no OC).

 

Fantastic news! Keep up updated Aritoshed.

 

I ordered my 880m card from upgradedonkey and same problem, My card throttle since the begining and I never managed to make it work properly. All try doesn't work for me and the tweak of mathieulh not work for me too.

I tried to reinstall windows with new ssd but always the same, this card is a $hit and make hard throttle all the time, only the 327.23 driver works for me.

I'll contact upgradedonkey for check with him but last time he didn't reply to my ask

I keep you informed

 

Did you upgrade to the new modified vBIOS? I also had severe throttling on OEM vBIOS (both CORE and MEMORY) but after I installed the new vBIOS, the card dont throttle anymore. Dont misunderstand me, the new modifiled vBIOS dont help with the benchmark as its still very low but hey, one step further .

Its not Upgradeyourdonkeys fault that the card is crappy OEM.

 

What are you guys getting in 3d mark 11 benchmarks?

 

I cant run 3Dmark11, it crashes in the middle of the first test. Can only test with FireStrike.

My desktop is making 22,5k

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4770K,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. MAXIMUS VI FORMULA

 

If I install the modded vbios from svl7 and john, the driver crash when windows start, and after 3 or 4 times, the screen freeze, whatever the driver version

like mathieulh said :

I think it's true.

 

Not true

Intel HD Graphics 4000 Mobile video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2

 

yes of course but if you order product who doesn't work properly, it need to be replace or refund by the guaranty

 

Arotished... does your GPU-Z show the same Performance Cap Reason that it does for Boris? If so, what are you guys setting as the power target?

 

Ohh, need to check that..

 

this is the gpuz with 327.23 driver on watch dogs after 5 minutes of game :

 

OK. Same Performance Cap reason. What is your Power Target set to? Are you prioritizing power or temperature? See what I have the blue boxes around?

 

Wow, hope it's not that that's been causing the issue. The Power Target Slider has been mentioned a number of times in this thread already as a possible cause & cure for low scores.

 

Well, it's not uncommon for people to not pay attention and miss important things, especially so if they are upset. It would actually be very nice if it was something so silly and easy as this. Same kind of thing happened with 780M. Everyone that had gone from 680M to 780M was being spastic and freaking out because 680M kicked its butt, but we see how that worked out. The tables got turned once people started paying closer attention and not sticking with stuff that always worked in the past.

 

If you look at the screenshot, that's just stock throttling. That's the normal throttling that the card does before its unlocked... My locked card still didn't score as low as they're seeing:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P377SM-A

Something else is causing their throttling. Its true that stock vBIOS will throttle you to 954MHz because of the power target but the extreme throttling is something else entirely. I'm watching this thread closely because while I'm lucky to have not experienced it with mine, I'm also stuck for overclocking until it gets resolved.

 

9000points on a AW18.....wow, thats just...sad.

Can you do a single GPU run without OC?

 

That score isn't exactly miserable. Can you push it any more?
Why don't you see how you fair with the unlocked vbios?

 

my 3840QM and 680's without OC made around 7500 without OC in firestrike.....

 

I have a P377SM-A,not an AW18, I was just sharing my stock score that I got with that machine with the stock vbios to illustrate what it does stock. Unlocked vbios got me to 10154 with +450 memory but I won't push the core because of the driver crippling crap when it crashes too much.

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Not too sure that you're expecting from the 880m's though. Ethrem's score is a stock clocks which seems about right.

What driver are you running now ?

 

337.88 driver.

www.3dmark.com/fs/2292238

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whats your 3Dmark11 score?

 

All seems well. Shame you can't push them for fear of this driver rubbish. Anyone have any idea's yet? I know Johnksss has his suspicions but have no idea what a fix would require.

 

Here's a fresh one for ya: P14520

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P377SM-A

It appears to be a flag that gets set in the card from what I've been reading... only "fix" is to use a driver that doesn't look for it which is not a fix in my mind or anyone else's. There was a long and involved method that worked for one member but I don't think that it works for everyone and I'm certainly not going to push it to find out when I have a desktop with a 780 Ti:

P14806: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4770K,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. MAXIMUS VI FORMULA

EDIT: Wow, since when do nVidia desktop drivers install without a modded INF? Those of you who are throttling should try the 340.43 desktop beta and see if it still super throttles... maybe whatever is in the notebook driver doesn't exist in the desktop?

http://www.nvidia.com/content/Drive...a-64bit-english-beta.exe&lang=us&type=GeForce

Might be worth a shot.

 

Thanks! Whats the firestrike single GPU score? Im getting 4500 points on single GPU without OC and according to the Fox, that was a low score.

 

This is with the new beta driver that I just installed today, I've never done a single GPU test before now.

5750 (without my +450 RAM)

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P377SM-A

Let me reboot and see what SLI looks like with the new driver.

 

9551 with the new driver

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P377SM-A

Unfortunately, my +450 memory overclock froze the system with the new drivers. -_-

EDIT: Tried it again and didn't change the power target this time

10186 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2303386

That's my highest result I've seen.

 

Not a bad score

 

I have not managed to install this driver even with modifying the inf file

how do you do ?

 

Disable windows driver enforcement.

 

So just for information 340.43-notebook-win8-win7-64bit-international-beta doesn't work, always the same hard throttle.

I'll try with disable windows driver enforcement for the desktop version

edit : same thing with the desktop version

So return to the 327.23 again

 

What would be unfortunate is if the flag detection parameter was found in each new driver, and required a modded driver for each release. What a pain that would be!

 

If you already posted this, I apologize for not noticing... have you tried installing the drivers without Geforce Experience? Just GPU driver, PhysX and HD Audio driver? (Of course, no 3D Vision drivers... I never install that rubbish as I don't have any use for it.)

 

Hmm... I installed the desktop drivers with no modded INF and it was detected just fine. Same with the notebook drivers after the desktop caused the card to crash a whopping 4 times in a row while sitting idle.

What is the hardware ID of these cards? I have device ID 10DE-1198 subvendor Clevo/Kapok (1558)

I'm starting to wonder if these are different cards altogether.

Mine is GK104 Rev A2

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@MR.Fox, yes already tested and nothing change, the problem come from the GPU driver directly.

 

Unless it is looking at the subvendor, that card should function exactly the same as mine when it comes to drivers, meaning no modded INF.

Do you have 2 cards? Do they match?

 

no, only one because my laptop is mx17 r4, I never heard that it's possible to use driver without inf modded :?

anyway, it's not working, this flag in the card is a very hard problem

 

I'm stumped. That card should work just like mine.



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I don't know how explain this, This flag or regardless the name who can make the throttle on the GPU, I already changed my stock vbios by another stock vbios from other member who have not problem with his card and it doesn't change anything. So I guess this "flag" must be somewhere in the rom or memory in the card who it's not possible to reset simply with a flash vbios ?

I'd like to know what that think johnkss about this.

 

I'm assuming you already pulled the battery and did a power drain by holding the power button for 30 seconds with the battery out right?

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yes of course, I think have tested all the possibility already mentionned here and on other thread, for me the problem come from the card after several crash or other problem and for the moment, I seen nobody who can resolved this problem.

my thread about this : http://forum.techinferno.com/alienware/6705-gtx-880m-8go-m17x-r4-120hz-3d-screen-problem-16.html

I guess it is not possible to reset the gpu card like you will reset the bios on motherboard ?

 

I've heard many horror stories in correcting the same problem your encountering. One that has been tried and tested is to remove the battery and ram modules, then holding the power button for 1 minute. After that, the guy completely removed both his Intel HD and Nvidia drivers. He then reinstalled the Intel driver first. Then he installed the last known Nvidia driver that didn't include the GeForce update. That solved the guys problem along with someone else problem.

 

The GeForce Experience update?

Because i think that is the driver that he is using now... its by no means a fix as the flag is still there and you're stuck with crippled performance in a lot of games (Watch Dogs is a great example)

I am curious if booting the cards up in Linux with the 880M Linux driver wouldn't flush the flag though. Linux has a habit of flushing anything that its drivers don't detect belong there. I wonder if maybe it would flush this flag too. Its worth a shot.