M18x Memory Discussion Thread

The 2133mhz are pnp, if by pnp you mean plug n play. I have them in my system now and it runs great.

 

Hello everybody.

As the title says, I'm interested in the above RAM configuration for my m18x r2. Originally I was planning on using 32 Gb of Corsair Vengeance RAM, but then I heard bad stories about that memory, so I'd like to know if someone is running the above configuration with Kingston memory (using two kits with code KHX16S9P1K2/16 ).

Thank you very much in advance,

Andrea.

 

Hi Andrea - how's the beast? - hope she's going well for you.

Regards the ram, I don't think you will have a problem with that configuration. I like HyperX stuff and have never had an issue with it. The Corsair stuff did have quite a lot of problems a little while back but I don't know if anyone is successfully running 32gb of it now. Also, and you probably know this anyway, but you need Win 7 Pro or Ultimate to be able to use more than 16gb. I think ALL Windows 8 versions should run 32gb no matter what - if you are looking at upgrading.

 

Hi stevejones133, thank you for your answer. The mothership is going great (about to start a small LAN party at work with my employers ). Contacted a local Dell rep today to get the italian keyboard that I plan on installing (couldn't configure it at the time of order).

I know about the limitations of windows 7 home premium that I have. My idea is to install the ram now and then try windows 8 as soon as I can. If I like that OS, I will keep it, otherwise I'll get a copy of win 7 Ultimate.
By the way, the choice of 32 gb is both for extreme futureproofing and because I can benefit from that much RAM for my work, as I often use virtual machines.

Any other experience with these RAM configurations is more than welcome.

Regards,

Andrea.

 

I just installed this: Newegg.com - ADATA Premier Series 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model AD3S1600W8G11-2

DDR 1600 32GB, all is running fine and very inexpensive. On a new machine I would do a fresh install of windows 7 and dual boot windows 8. I don't think 8 is ready for prime time. Again these are just my opnions, as far as the RAM I am not sure on its overclocking ability. I never tried as the machine is very fast at stock speeds. I also went with 32GB of RAM because I am always using virtual machines. I also setup huge RAM disks for applications where I need like zero latency on.

 

Thank you teknikk7. I'm considering the Kingston memories because of their much lower latencies (cl9 vs cl11 for the memories you listed) even though they are much more expensive, but still it's very good to have other choices that are known to work.
I'm planning on a fresh install of the OS after I get an SSD later on (still running on the 500gb spinner). I haven't tried windows 8, so I cannot comment on it (yet). That's why I said I would try it and then decide whether to stick with it or move back to windows 7.

So, anyone else with experience with large amounts of RAM on the m18x r2?

Andrea.

 

Thanks for that lilone.

What memory did you have in your system before you upgraded to the 2133mhz and is the performance notably better?

 

If I have a I7-3610QM is it worth getting 1866(CL10) over 1600(CL9).

 

Unless you are going to upgrade to XM and start benching - not worth the extra cost, IMHO.

 

Well I have 16GB on my r1 and consider that a large amount. I'm not sure what you would use that much for but would be interested in finding out. Have fun with it and keep us posted. :thumbsup:

 

I am upgrading to a 3720 with unlocked multipliers and 8MB L3. Should perform along the line of the XM once i overclock

 

On the low end, yes....If you have the watts and amps to do so, then yes on the high end.

 

Has anyone got this and tried pushing it? I wonder if it can actually go past the standard partial OC of 400MHz?

 

Just purchased one off ebay. On its way from China right now. Should get it Friday.

 

Keep us posted, I'm very curious about this beast

 

You can choke on 16GB running multiple virtual machines, but for most of us the 16GB we have is more than ample.

 

I still tend to think there is no such thing a fully unlocked 3720QM with 8MB cache. I believe that is simply a misidentification of an early ES iteration of the 3920XM processor like the one Riri-Fifi had in his M18x R2. I seriously doubt Intel made a 3720QM with exactly the same specs as their Extreme CPU flagship. I could be wrong, but 2+2 does not equal 4 with that scenario.

 

Well, as I said previously, there are two main reasons for my interest in configurations with 32 gb of RAM:

One is for work, where I routinely use virtual machines and also run large automated test suites, both of which require quite a lot of memory.
The other is for future proofing reasons: does anyone remember when Windows XP came out (in 2001 if I remember correctly) and the reviews stated that "128 mb of RAM should be enough to run XP, but 256 mb is better"? Well, try today running XP with 128 or 256 mb of RAM. As soon as you install a couple of applications on the bare OS, the computer starts swapping. Even 1gb can be somewhat cramped, and that does not even consider the requirements of later OSes (Vista, 7 and 8), just the increasing requirements of the applications. So I think that 32gb of RAM, while being overkill right now, can become useful at some point in the (not too distant) future. But this is just my opinion

...actually there is a third reason, and it is bragging rights

Anyway I'll report back when I have the memory installed. Before that, I'm currently waiting for my order for an italian layout keyboard, as it gets quite cumbersome when I have to type a character that is not on the keyboard and have to resort to the Windows character map. As soon as I have the keyboard, I'll place the order for the 32 gb of Kingston memory and then install both the keyboard and the memory in one go.

Anyway, keep them coming, anyone else with experience with large amounts of RAM on the m18x?

Andrea.

P.S.: it seems that the thread I opened was merged with the memory discussione thread. I knew there was one such thread somewhere, but couldn't find it! thank you to the moderator that merged the threads! :thumbsup:

 

Funny, I just got my 3820QM and it appears to be a ES version! I won't be able to provide any info on its OC'ing till I get a R2 mobo, which may take some time


Edit: never mind, it's QS, probably not gonna go more than 400Mhz above the stock clocks.

 

are you runnning 4 x 4gb = 16gb?

 

Sorry for the late response, but yes I am

 

Sorry for the late response, but before I had the 2133s i had the 1600s. The 2133s came out a week after I purchased the 1600s so I was able to return it. Also it was only a $10 price difference, so I figured why not. To be quit honest, I do feel a difference in speed.

 

Guys, a bit of help please..
this:
Corsair CMXS16GX3M2A1600C10 16GB Vengeance Performance So-Dimm 1600MHz CL10 DDR3 Memory Kit: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

or this:

Kingston KHX16S9P1K2/16 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 SODIMM HyperX Plug and Play Memory Module (Kit of 2): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Looking to max my memory out to 32gb and yes I do need that amount of memory..
My desktop has 32gb installed and I've already used 25gb of it according to the task manager.
If there's a way to get 32gb memory at 1866MHz on the M18x R2, somebody please let me know where to find it..

 

Here you go - link

 

Dude.....thanks a lot man....very much appreciated...

 

you are welcome, Bro. It came out today actually, at least on newegg.

 

Not out in the UK yet, gonna have to wait a few weeks..
could order online and have it shipped but dont wanna risk it in case I'll have to RMA it..

 

Yeah, don't rush. At this point I'd wait till the 2133mhz is available in 8GB sticks.

 

I need some help with the new ram i installed in my notebook. I purchased these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233243

And after installing them, i get a black screen. I booted again and set the frequencies from auto to 1867 and restarted then it started beeping (3x for memory).

CPU is an i7-3720qm

What's the problem?

 

I moved your new post into the correct thread for memory discussion. The NewEgg link and item number you posted are no good. What memory are you trying to use? Corsair?

I also see you posted memory questions in other Alienware sub-forums in addition to the M18x sub-forum. What Alienware laptop model do you own?

 

sorry here's another link

Amazon.com: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866 MHz (PC3 15000) Laptop Memory (CMSX8GX3M2A1866C10): Computers & Accessories

check out the feedback/reviews. it seems other alienware users are having problems with these sticks

alienware m14x r2

i filed for an RMA and the sticks came in today but they did not work. amazon sent me an email saying they're going to pull the sticks off their shelves and investigate the issue before stocking them again

What alternative 1866 sticks would you suggest? i was gonna go with the kingston's hyperx but they don't have heatspreaders in their recent designs and their timers are worse than corsairs

 

Sorry, yes the Cosair Vengeance has known compatibility issues with the M18x... not sure about the M14x R2. There are other posts in this thread about the issues with it. You can use Thaiphoon Burner to fix what Corsair did not get right.

 

i'm not entirely sure on how to use that program. do you think the latest bios would help compatibility for the m14x r2? also, do i need to enable XMP? the sticks advertise plug n play without changing anything in the bios, but i don't want to miss any angles

i'm about to dish out $55+ for the kingston hyperx 8 gb 1866 mhz sticks C11 for barely any improvements over my current hynix's (1600 mhz C11). Not sure if this would be worth it, but im not sure what else to upgrade

 

I am a member of NBR for awhile and altho not an avid poster I do follow the threads.

I tried to post this to a reputable member in PM in an effort not to alarm or incite members in the open appropriate forum but, was unable to. Thus,

I purchased a M18R2 in middle of Nov 2012 and had it spec'd to a 3840QM, SLI 680M, 2x256 Samsung 830 SSD in Raid0 and 16GB 1866 Memory.

The problemss i have had have been with the 1866 Memory. I have repeatedly contacted AW Tech Support on at least 5 Memory related problems: Memory (1866) only registering at 1333. I was told that there must be a prob and I have repeatedly been sent replacement 1866 memory, which i have installed. I have also been told that the Bios (in this case A08) would register and utilize that 1866 Spec). I have repeatedly run various tests aganinst that 1866 memory to show no speed increase, and all testing showing/resulting in 1333. I have related this to AW and asked for appropriate settings (XMP Profile, 1 and 2 and also for setting for the Custom panel). This was escalated to L3 where several Dell Connect and Teamviewer sessions were made.... all to finalize that "1866 is NOT supported at this time".

This issue has been escalated to "Engineering" for resolution/synopsis/corrective action.

Although XMP Profiles and Custom settings were entered, no change was actually made, although the settings were accepted and passed in the BIOS.

(I have a listing of those techs I have spoken too).

AW Tech is swapping my 16GB 1866 for 32GB 1600 Memory.

My question here and to you AW Tech 'Guru' contacts is: Is this true, or what is the proper way to have the 1866 Memory recognized and utilized; or is it as L3 said, not recognized/useful.

Thank you.

dcroller

 

I have the Kingston HyperX 1866 PnP memory in my M18x R1 and it boots and runs perfectly at 1866 without any changes to BIOS settings or manual intervention on my part. This RAM does not have support XMP profiles, and manually setting them in the BIOS does nothing. Those settings are basically ignored, and they revert to defaults when re-entering the BIOS.

I had 16GB of standard Dell 1600MHz memory before and there is no perceivable difference in overall system performance between the stock 1600 and my Kingston 1866. It made a few points improvement in a couple of benchmark scores. So, the memory upgrade was mostly a waste of money. I thought that might turn out to be the case before I purchased it, so it was not a huge disappointment even though I was hoping for more of a noticeable improvement in performance. Next time I will spend less buying standard memory modules.

 

What has to be done. Is program free

 

Mr. Fox,
You are correct in that there does not seem to be Any appreciable speed/performance increase between the various memory specs 1333/1600/1866... they all run at the base JDec 1333, at least under the A08 BIOS. PC Checkup and CPUz shows 1333... Certainly they are accepted at BIOS (no matter what settings) and passed along for a normal POST, but the 7C75G 1866 4 x 8 are a waste of memory at the moment. It will be interesting to see what Dell does with correcting this ticket as there are Many peeps who paid for the increased spec chips. Possibly another BIOS Update (whoopie do) where it is either corrected or the Memory Tabs are removed along with some sort of exchange. Waiting on my 32GB now. Cheers.

dcroller

 

No, but it is inexpensive... like $22. I don't know how to use it simply because I have not found any need to take time to learn how. Johnksss and several other members of our community have taken the time to figure it out. They did so to mod "normal" memory for overclocking, rather than fixing the Corsair RAM. The Thaiphoon Burner web site also has an instructional video on how to fix the screwed up Corsair Vengeance memory. If it were me, I would just RMA and get a different brand or a refund. Although, the how-to knowledge would be nice for my inner geek, LOL.

Be advised that if you purchase Thaiphoon Burner it is not "portable" and requires activation. Once activated, it is tied to your hardware hash and will not work if you install it on another system. It will also stop functioning (requires a new activation) if you make any significant hardware changes to the machine on which you are running the program.

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UPDATE to my 1866 Memory Not Registering in my M18R2:

AW Tech Support sent me 32GB of 1600 Hynix 4x8 as an agreed upon exchange in lieu of the 1866 Kingston 16GB which after 3 16GB sets from Tech Support only registered and performed at 1333 (which btw uses Hynix chips).
The 1600s were immediately recognized by the system and Registered as 1600.

FWIW, Members and readers who have recently received a new M18R2 with 1866 Memory Upgrade, and are still under warranty, should check to see IF their machines are in fact registering their upgraded memory from 1333. This occurs even if the settings in BIOS have been set to Auto or if the memory spec has been manually inputted. AW Tech Support is aware of the problem and will exchange your memory for workable 1600 sticks.

Cheers

 

Hello, i'm an owner af a M18X R1 with 4GB of memory, i would like to take an upgrade, these

RAM SO-DIMM DDR3 Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL10 Unbuffered 1.5V are ok?

i dont't remeber if superiors ram clock speed like 1866 should give any issue on R1?

 

say, does anyone know where I can buy a single 8GB HyperX 1600MHz stick? tried searching on Ebay, but no luck, they're only selling them in pairs... and at over $100, they're a bit hideously priced for me at the moment. with 8GB RAM I'd be a happy camper, as my current 6GB doesn't quite cut it, but I want to leave my options open i.e. I don't want to buy 2x4GB; if for any far-off reason I want to add another 8GB, I want it to be quick and easy

p.s. - has to offer shipping to Europe

 

Directly from Kingston

 

I see on Amazon the Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB kits for $109. Quite a bit less than Kigston Hyper X. I know there have been issues documented with the M18x. What seems unusual is that there are curremtly 306 reviews with a 5 star rating. When I do a search for M18x in those reviews NOT a single hit. I thought at least the bad ones might come up.....There are a handful of Alienware users but NO M18's. I am thinking of ordering at least 1 of the 2x8GB kits soon as I expect my laptop by around 25th. I have seen only a couple peeps here that even get the corsair to post. Anyone order Corsair Vengeance 1600 or 1866 in the last month and have it work as labeled??

Thanks,
Brad

 

I just upgraded from 4x4 Corsair Vengeance 1600 to 4x8 Corsair Vengeance 1600. I tried some Geil memory off ebay but it had issues so got Corsair Vengeance.

 

Haven't found any 8 GB HyperX sticks, at least not in a overclocked version. That being said, 16 GB should be enough to any computer? I have 16 GB Hyperx PnP (CL11), easy install and running. I can see there is CL12, would love to true them.

 

I have the memory here 8x2 16gb corsair 1866 just waiting on the m18x to get here (supposed to be tommrow but has not shipped as of this post) I will let you know how it goes if I have any problems I might have to RMA them and get the hyperx ....

 

I have 4x4G Corsair Vengeance im my M18xr2. I invested the $16 on Thiaphoon Burner and corrected the SPD Bug Issue. Now my memory runs at 2133mhz with ease.

 

If I run into the same problem .... Anyway you could post or email mewhat changes you made ? Also what settings are you using in the bios to get that speed? Please

Email : [email protected]

 

You need the program i mentioned to add the XMP profile for 1866,2133 and Cas8,7 support

 

I have the software ( the 16 dollar one ) allthough I had no problems with the 2x8gb kit from corsair I have it curently running at 1866 with just changing it in the bios... I have used CPUZ to verify this as well