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    M18x US Launch Info

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by vzachari, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. littleone562

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    Makes no sense why they would charge about $350 more for the same upgrade as Sager and other similar manufactures from the dual 460m SLI to the 6970 CF
     
  2. Lp18

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    M18X price = This is MADNESS!
     
  3. JackEtienne

    JackEtienne Notebook Geek

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    Ok I just purchased my M18X! The dell order placement system was not 100% ready but with some work and a managers help it's booked in the system with an EDD of 05/24/2011.

    The total price of this system after EPP + other discounts that my sales rep found: $3,506


    Item Number Quantity Item Description
    225-0887 1 Alienware M18x Space Black Anodized Aluminum
    317-6854 1 Intel Core i7 2820QM 2.3GHz (3.4GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8MB Cache)
    317-6851 1 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz (2DIMMS)
    331-2428 1 MOD,ADPT,DLTA,330W,3P,WW,ANW
    320-2269 1 18.4-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 WLED
    320-2271 1 Dual 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon HD 6970M - AMD CrossFireX
    342-2626 1 320GB 7,200RPM HDD
    313-8791 1 AlienFX Color, Mars Red
    421-5099 1 Alienware Command Center, M18X
    421-1400 1 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
    318-0843 1 Slot-Loading Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader, BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW
    318-0770 1 Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
    430-4150 1 MOD,CRD,NTWK,6300,ANW,ROW
    330-6350 1 Automatic Updates: Critical Updates Only
    953-9080 1 Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year
    953-9100 1 Third Party At Home Service, 24x7 Technical Support, Initial Year
    994-3700 1 Accidental Damage Service, 1 Year
    950-9797 1 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
    421-1719 1 Soft Contracts Consumer Accidental Damage Agreement for Alienware
    421-1723 1 Soft Contracts Dell In-Home Hardware Agreement for Alienware
    994-3730 1 Warranty Support, Initial Year
    421-1586 1 Alienhead Chrome Red
    421-1359 1 World of Warcraft Preinstall Edition
    331-2425 1 Standard Nameplate
    Item Number Quantity Item Description
    225-0887 1 Alienware M18x Space Black Anodized Aluminum
    317-6854 1 Intel Core i7 2820QM 2.3GHz (3.4GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8MB Cache)
    317-6851 1 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz (2DIMMS)
    331-2428 1 MOD,ADPT,DLTA,330W,3P,WW,ANW
    320-2269 1 18.4-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 WLED
    320-2271 1 Dual 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon HD 6970M - AMD CrossFireX
    342-2626 1 320GB 7,200RPM HDD
    313-8791 1 AlienFX Color, Mars Red
    421-5099 1 Alienware Command Center, M18X
    421-1400 1 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
    420-9691 1 DataSafe Local BackUp
    420-9956 1 Vista PC Restore
    421-0092 1 DELL-DOWNLOAD-FLAG
    410-0548 1 Adobe Acrobat X Reader Factory Installation, CNB
    318-0843 1 Slot-Loading Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader, BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW
    421-1305 1 Roxio Creator Starter
    318-0770 1 Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
    430-4150 1 MOD,CRD,NTWK,6300,ANW,ROW
    330-6350 1 Automatic Updates: Critical Updates Only
    953-9080 1 Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year
    953-9100 1 Third Party At Home Service, 24x7 Technical Support, Initial Year
    994-3700 1 Accidental Damage Service, 1 Year
    950-9797 1 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
    421-1719 1 Soft Contracts Consumer Accidental Damage Agreement for Alienware
    421-1723 1 Soft Contracts Dell In-Home Hardware Agreement for Alienware
    994-3730 1 Warranty Support, Initial Year
    421-1586 1 Alienhead Chrome Red
    421-1596 1 Alienhead Chrome Red
    421-1359 1 World of Warcraft Preinstall Edition
    331-2425 1 Standard Nameplate
    A4869114 1 Alienware Orion M18x Backpack - TSA Friendly
     
  4. Zero989

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    holy crap that's ridiculous. im completely turned off the AW18x now.

    i could literally do Tri-SLI eVGA Kepler GTX 680 with a 4.5Ghz sandy bridge myself and get like 5x the performance if i waited 4-6 months.

    Back to M17x R2 until the price comes down.
     
  5. Bobhill

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    Wow. 3.544$ for a normal spec'd laptop if I chose basic setting + okay GPU ? are you kidding me ? Those price are so ridiculous. I'm happy to have bought the m17x-r3 !
     
  6. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    •Discussion of illegal activities such as fraud, software and music piracy and other intellectual property violations are not allowed. There is a zero tolerance policy for illegal activity being discussed.

    Any further posts implying fraud will result in infractions being issued and/or loss of posting ability.
     
  7. Räy

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    It sucks having to buy a year old clevo x7200 that is cheaper and offers more performance. As it seems though, Alienware's ridiculous prices are here to stay and there is no excuse in taking the premium for a laptop that is already 2nd best out of the starting block. The only potential that the m18x has is if it does support Ivy Bridge. Hopefully we can ask a Dell Technician about and get a straight answer about future cpu upgrades. At 18.4 inches you aren't going to be running on igp with a 3-5 hour battery so the only reason I can see why one shouldn't go with the cheaper clevo would be for the outer appearance. But is $400 worth it alone?
     
  8. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Why dont you all wait until it actually shows up on the website via the front page? Just a thought. Hitting the config page via an edited link doesn't mean its set in stone. Give it a day or so.
     
  9. Lickwidpain

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    No, especially for people who like the Sager's looks better. Fir me the premium is essentially for the warrenty but that us just too much for me to justify right now.
     
  10. KillerBunny

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    I'm not sure the mobile chipsets will support ivy bridge. I remember discussion the other day how it was limited to desktops, and then they had to get a new motherboard anyways. Getting a new motherboard would defeat the purpose, even if the chipset matched.

    After seeing the lack of 485m and price of 6970 CF, I'm confident in my r3 choice. Maybe not kick but performance, but it works for me.

    Pity though, was hoping the m18x would be able to compete with the desktop sager lappy. Nice to know the brand you support is the best, even if you dont have the best :(
     
  11. joecait

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    Do people think Dell staff reads this site? Maybe they are gauging the reaction to the pricing as we type. :)

    $300 more for +4GB upgrade to 1600 memory. $100 is the regular price on newegg for 2x4GB.

    Hoping they start the base system under 2k and maybe offer everyone 30% off that buys the first day. :)
     
  12. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    Even though your advice is sound, I would encourage discussion on the current pricing scheme specially on the topic of the high price mark. If prices happen to be lower on release day nobody here is going to be disappointed, I can guarantee that.

    Actually Dell might make even more profit if people get pleasantly surprised on release day.

    I think Dell-Alienware has a lot to learn from looking at this discussion. It will help them see what their customers are willing to pay for their systems before they actually fix their prices. Its like a free market research for them.
     
  13. raynefall

    raynefall Notebook Guru

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    need to remember this is their flagship, the top of the top AW.......you pay a price for that even if it is just for bragging rights. That is the way it works in cars, bikes etc........
     
  14. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    This laptop is overpriced.

    $300 for 8GB 1600MHz...Can be purchased for $100.
    $900 for 6970M Xfire? $250 upgrade for one on the M17x...I would think this would be maybe $600-$700 for Xfire.

    Also where are the display options?
     
  15. Comrade Ynot

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    I put one together, running into 5k, I showed my wife, she looked at me lovingly and said, "if thats what you want, order it, you put the money aside for it." Thats why I love her, but I cannot justify that kind of money for that, the prices are just too high and like Bat Boy said, perhaps these prices are off and when its actually released it will be cheaper. Oh well, back to the M17x R2. Though I do need an alienware with the wireless hd so I might grab the M14x.
     
  16. OoSchismoO

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    i dont know how reliable it is but i just spoke to a Dell Sales rep and they said those prices are final -_-
     
  17. Räy

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    Anyone want to ask a rep if the hm67 motherboard will support Ivy Bridge? Though I don't think any of the reps would probably know that.
     
  18. anodize

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    You def. not want to contact the sales for that.
     
  19. SOS4DELL

    SOS4DELL A Notebook Philosopher

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    You're totally right: I hope they are listening... I think to change my preferences toward the M6600... of course I will pay more but, at least, I will get an IPS RGB-LED...
    One question still disturbe my mind: Dellienware is intentionally commiting suicide? :confused:
     
  20. kunekaden

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    I'm quite shocked at the price of Avenger.
    Peoples over at T|I were all so excited, now you seem bummed out :/
    I hope, for the sake of all interested, that Dell decides to bottom out those prices in a big way.
     
  21. koag8087

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    i have a question. its not sarcasm or anything
    just pure question.
    why r u guys waiting for m18x when x7200 has similar spec?
    is it because of the design?
    ths configuration website do not have gtx 485m but x7200 does.
    if aw doesnt come up w gtx 485m, pretty much im going w x7200
     
  22. FXi

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    I'm waiting for 485/580. I think it will come, just going to take time.

    Discounts will come, again, the most rabid buyers are the ones first in the door and pay the most.

    As for Ivy Bridge, it may not work. But remember Intel smells money in the idea of maybe making it work, and Intel loves money. So there is a chance.

    EPP was offering only 2% on AW models last I checked. Was the phone call with the EPP rep better than that? I have word in with ours now to keep an eye out for this model is why I ask, so I have some idea what to expect.

    Clevo doesn't offer a mobile CPU and dual high end GPU's. If they do, AW is going to have competition breathing down their necks. The X7200 is more comparable to the R3.

    OH and I have to eat my hat if this is true and there is a single card option for the M18x. I didn't think that would happen and I have to eat humble pie since I was wrong. Just sayin.
     
  23. RRei

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    id love for the prices to go down when they actually release it. OBVIOUSLY.
     
  24. stevenxowens792

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    OMG.. 3945 for dual 6970s and Extreme processor at 4ghz. WOW

    Awesome config and even more awesome price.

    StevenX
     
  25. Lickwidpain

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    One word... warranty. Sager's after purchase support is abit weak. Even so, the the X7200 is looking appealing to me again. I am so indecisive! :(
     
  26. FXi

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    I tend to suspect as well that AMD's pricing is rising to meet 485M pricing rather than the reverse. Competition is what we need, but in this case I think they both charge what the market will bear and then discount as the demand goes down. /sigh

    Let's see what comes with final website "ready to order" stages.
     
  27. kunekaden

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    What are you talking about?
    Dell charges $250USD ($300CAD) for 1x 6970 (upgraded from 6870). What makes you think AMD has anything to do with the $900 upgrade price?

    I could understand at max:
    +200 for 1x 6970 since base is 460m
    +500 for a 2nd 6970
    = +700 for dual 6970
     
  28. redbalrog

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    Wow, pricey! I can expect at least $6k here in NZ then.
     
  29. MaynardLD50

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    Even with the insane hook up i'm getting at Dell this just made my mind up on not ordering this system. Anyone who orders this is out of their mind; especially considering you could build a ridiculous laptop that will destroy this for years to come for less than the cost of this with a decent spec.

    To the guy that said his wife approved a 5k laptop, dude Go build a fat desktop and buy an R3 also, like me. You'll be much happier and look fiscally responsible to your CFO :) (i'm married, I know they're our CFO's)
     
  30. issey

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    i dont see why everyone is shocked about the price of a maxed out m18x pushing above $4.5K???

    i just looked back on my receipt for my R2, which was maxed out and the price was $4.2K with discount and before taxes!

    This should be no surprise...
     
  31. issey

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    im reading a lot of ppl already saying they are turned off by the price of the m18x and they could buy a similar config laptop for less.

    KEYWORD here is SIMILAR CONFIGURATION! But no where close to being like an Alienware M18X.

    i can also buy and honda civic and put a 911 turbo engine in it and would be just as fast, or even faster than a real 911 turbo...

    come on, guys...theres a premium that you have to pay for if you want LUXURY quality. i.e. porsche, bmw, mercedes, and i could go on.
     
  32. Zero989

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    nah bro that price is ludacris, it's not justifiable in any way possible, i dont care what anyone says.
     
  33. coldcase

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    You sir are the perfect customer for the M18X then :D

    I'm not...
     
  34. sticky

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    I'm starting to think I should just stick with my R3 as well rather than return it.

    The only downside at least in my mind is no dual cards but if the R3 cards can be upgraded, shouldn't even be a big deal. Can I upgrade the M17X video card later though?
     
  35. issey

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    heres a couple of questions for u...

    does the x7200 look anything close to the m18x?

    does a supped up honda civic with a 911 turbo engine have the same quality as the real porsche 911 turbo?

    does the x7200 have an aluminum casing, or a better question, does it have any of the signature trademark which makes alienware so unique? i.e. aluminum case, lighting control, wirelesshd, and just overall cool factor.
     
  36. Lickwidpain

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    The look of Alienware's are pure subjective. I think they look like fisher price toys TBH. Especially when put side by side to a Sager. The 911 turbo in a Honda is an apple and orange argument. Only reason I was interested in the M18x over a second X7200 was for the better post purchase care but the premium at this point in time is on the steep side so I am back on the fence. At least for now.

    I got no problem blowing 4.K on a laptop but at least stand head and shoulders above the comp if you are going to do that.
     
  37. issey

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    dell or any large company which sells a product or service will set the price of their product according to demand of the market.

    obviously, theres demand for the m18x.

    im not denying that its expensive. compared to a normal laptop, yes, it is very expensive.

    i just dont understand why some ppl are surprised and shocked about the cost of a maxed out m18x...
    if you want the best, be prepared to pay top dollar for it.
     
  38. WaR

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    Ouch! Insane...
     
  39. MaynardLD50

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    Can you please stop thread pooping back and forth? Bottom line is that you both are right, sort of... The price of the M18x, for what you're getting, is inflated. Bottom line. Pain is right, you can get a x7200 with a desktop processor and warranty substantially cheaper. The argument of "It looks better" is a fraction of what matters here too, I know because I'm using an R3 coming from a Sager W870cu that is staring at me across the room. Am I amazed by the pretty lights? Yes. Do I love the screen? Yes. Is it better looking? Well, only because of the lights really. One thing remains though, when I boot up my game if it runs good and fast I stop caring how my laptop aesthetically looks and this is why it is hard to justify a $1100 premium to have a 10 - 32% bump in performance with crossfire. Also, you have to consider the potential headache that Crossfire can produce and do the math for the $ your paying per % it becomes worse. I have a crossfire desktop and trust me things don't always work as you would hope, but I only spent $600 on 2 video cards that beat the crap out of anything available today. Why would Dell think ANYONE would be dumb enough to pay $900 for something that barely equals a 6970?

    Bottom line: This thing is inflated and I wish people would choose not buy it to show Dell their mistake and they would be forced to and hopefully do a price drop. This is what we COULD do as consumers, rather than take your approach and "I GOT MONEY, CONFORM CONFORM CONFORM! WASTE WASTE WASTE". After all, I am the consumer and I allow the pricing or change it ultimately.

    great, now I thread pooped.
     
  40. bifnewman

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    I just chatted with a dell rep about the M18x. I asked him if the price was set in stone and he replied with "Yes, $2019.00." I also asked about the 32GB RAM upgrade and he said that there was only up to 8GB but it seemed like he was just looking at the configuration options. I still have a hard time believing the price for this thing. The main reason I wanted this was because I thought it would provide the performance of the X7200 but better battery life because you can turn off the discrete graphics in the BIOS. With the price that high, now I'm not sure what to do....
     
  41. Cerberus

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    That is so well said that I would've repped you if I could.

    Issey obviously you know nothing about business, and can you plz stop the car analogies for a moment? Comparing 2 markets that have absolutely nothing to do with each other is plain stupid, stick with the laptop market and try to think this over.

    Of course we want a laptop that looks good, but what is a "good looking" laptop? To some people Alienware is the best looking, to others it's way over the top, and some people just don't care about the lighting, and seriously when gaming what do you care about? the lights coming off your keyboard? or the frames you game is producing? NOTHING can justify that big of a premium!

    The premium is already in the starting price because the looks are not an upgrade, you get that not matter how you configure you machine. So saying that Dell can charge $900 for Xfire 6970 and justify that by saying you pay a premium for the looks and having the best? Sorry to tell you that from a business and logic point of you that doesn't make any sense what so ever, why should a company charge so much more than another company for the same upgrade? That's boredering on "stealing", and please don't use the looks and "paying for the best" argument, the starting price of $2020 already took care of that, it's already been paid for.

    And if you think Dell will make big profit out of the M18X with these prices then you're as out of touch as Dell.
     
  42. jubbing

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    Omg so expensive holy omg panic panic! Or rather than that I'm just not going to buy an M18x.. seriously.. my config came up to over 4k! Think 6k in Australia.. The config that costs 4,233.00 USD when converted is3,877.41 AUD (Australian Dollars).. the sad part is Dell will probably charge 6k for this model...
     
  43. alienair

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    I think during the launch the presenter mentioned something about Alienware guaranteeing the 4.0Ghz factory overclock, so that might be the reason.
     
  44. joecait

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    It's strange that they would choose a 2019 price point (any significance in this number?) when the 1999 would sell more product. Sounds like it'll be released sooner than later. Too bad you can't get the 6970 yet as the single card option. (This could all change as well).
     
  45. amosingh

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    its sill way cheaper than uk price.
     
  46. Cerberus

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    Im sorry, im dumb but
    is there any specific reason that m18x does not have 16gb dual channel ddr3 memory when m17x has it?
    does memory matter when you play games?
     
  48. Cerberus

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    It should have this option when it officially launches
     
  49. redbalrog

    redbalrog Notebook Consultant

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    How does the 460M SLI compare to the 6970M CF and to a Desktop 5870?
    And are the 6970Ms worth $700 over the 460s?
     
  50. Hunter_Zero2006

    Hunter_Zero2006 Newbie

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    This is...this is.. not what i expected.*faint*
    So i guess no alienware for me.. i'm so poor.
    Gud luck to u guys. i'm out.
     
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