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    Nvidia 347.09 Beta

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by littleone562, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. Johnksss

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    Ask meaker to see if he will make the same changes that were made to his vbios.

    Also, 240W is not going to be enough for you to really go wild.
     
  2. godfafa_kr

    godfafa_kr Notebook Evangelist

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    I just removed my 780m sli and put 980m again.
    Installed the new nvidia driver, no throttle at all. Very impressive that a driver can fix this.
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    The desktop 347.09 mod doesn't play nice with my 980M SLI at all. What is interesting is the fact that the core does not throttle even with ThrottleStop turned on, but the memory drops to 799MHz and there is no ability to overclock. EVGA Precision and Afterburner crash and NVIDIA Inspector sliders are grayed out using the driver. It's impressive (in a very bad, evil kind of way) that NVIDIA has this sort of control over our hardware. It is also interesting that the memory clock dropping to 799MHz has an almost indiscernible effect on performance. Even benchmark scores are barely affected.
     
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  4. Peter

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    Haha i was waitin for someone to say first and i knew person got to be you. Yes core wont throttle with Throttlestop even if you do set overclocking as Bios. Hence, Throttling issue is due to nasty drivers. Even EVGA Precision refused to start, gettin error stop responding and overcloking is not possible with 347.09. I'm wonderin, do all these issues affecting desktop cards as well.
     
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    After tons of testing i discovered a few things"
    1. the driver randomly kicks from P0 through P1
    2. Once in P1 the mem will drop to match P1 mem
    Here is the sad part
    3. If you force a modded vBios with OC, no matter how little the OC is the Core will always revert back to 1126 and the driver will randomly stop responding (i figured out a way to lock the memory to stay solid on boost), it will also show you have hit max power no matter how high i increase the max wattage... (this is laughable).

    The driver is crippled, and seems to only allow the card to operate at stock and some sort of fail safe seems to be in place within the driver. I assume this is due to it being in beta and Nvidia just has not added the additional strings to thier .dll files, etc. But the throttling is gone at stock, that is at least an improvement for those casual users.
     
  6. Johnksss

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    So....Is it better than 344.75?
     
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  7. Peter

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    I think for Clevo 344.75 is better. On Alienware 347.09 is better option as it wont let card core clock to throttle but it throttles memory clock. John you got to clear your inbox m8.
     
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    Hummm, didn't show any real problems (344.75) on mine. It just didn't stay locked at high over clocks or on some test or games at stock.(M18XR2)
    Some would like this while others would not. Me, I locked locked at what I set. :)

    Already did.
     
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    for M17x users yes for M18x user... I would say no since the 344.xx drivers act alot better when SLi is active (it acts similar for M17x users with optimus since that is a type of SLi in a sense).
     
  10. Peter

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    Yeah as i said 344.75 works perfect on Clevo, sometimes it depend on rider too:thumbsup: I think for Alienware we got to wait for next release.
     
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    For me who took backstep to 780m due to 980m's throttle, there is really no choice but to use 347.09 driver.

    vram stay at 2506, gpu core stay > 1038mhz.
    I am happy with this.
     
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    that doesn't sound promising. hopefully it'll be fixed in the next driver.
     
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    You could have maybe just edited the watts to 120W/115W. This should give no throttling at stock. And off of +135/+400 it will throttle to like 1240 on core and no memory throttling. Speculation of course since I don't have an alienware.
     
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    Does the 347.09's OC disabling effects every mobile nvidia gpu or the 900M series only ?
     
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    :)
    Yeah I think editting power to 115~120w would help.
    Help me do that. or if you have a vbios that let me pull power up, I'd be glad to have one.
     
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    I think 2nd generation of maxwell or all maxwell.
    I OCed 780m with 347.09.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Johnkss do you know if the R4 works with the 330W PSU without having to do any mods or do you have to mod it with ID chip or whatever? Anyone knows this?
     
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    m17x R4 works with 330w.
    I have used it for more than a year.
     
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    Yes I get locked software overclocking with the latest driver too. It's fine with a built in bios overclock though.
     
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    How did you overclock using bios?
     
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    I am pretty sure he modded his own bios, and he has a Clevo, so you cant compare the results. Since 75% of this thread is jumbled up side talk be careful what you are reading because again lots of the info are coming from the Clevo guys that post information in here which is not relevant to your situation using an AW system.

    As for using a modded vBios download Maxwell Bios Tweaker 1.36 if you want to set your own clocks (update your sig to show us what system you are running)
     
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    This is with no modding? Has it ever pulled anything more than 240W doing so?
     
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    Ok, i've upgrade to this driver and my gpu doesnt hold 850mhz gtx 780m...until now it coulnd hold 850mhz, temp is 60degress,,,,but throttening...what driver shood I use?
     
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    Yeah 330w PSU is PnP to m17x R4.
    Yeah of course it pulled over 240w,.
     
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    That;'s R2.
    330w psu is recognized as 330w in m17x R4 bios without any mod.

    Actually 330w PSU can be also used in m17x R3 and it performs better with 330w than with 240w.
     
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    i am also assuming that it's also the case with the AW 17 / 18 that they don't need a mod to detect 330W PSUs?
     
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    I have tested 330w PSU in AW17 and the bios recognized the PSU as 330w as well.
    AW18, I have no idea but isn't the stock PSU for AW18 330w anyway?
     
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    sweet! though if i move to a 980m i probably won't need a 330w psu anyway.
     
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    I believe you will need one 330w PSU if you plan to OC the GPU once those power tables are unlocked the Watts go crazy. I just updated my OP in the 17x section, and once my 330w arrives i will be back at the chopping black, as of right now i have to lock games like Crysis 3 at 60fps or turn v-synch on to keep my PSU from hitting max power output forcing the clock to downclock back to 1126 core speed.
     
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    so you're saying that i would need a 330W PSU if i wanted to run games uncapped or a capped to 120fps (if i had a 120hz display)? but since I only have a 60hz display and I usually cap the fps to 60 anyway (even if it introduces input lag) then i would be fine with a 240W PSU?
     
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