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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M18x Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by BatBoy, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    I'm downloading a bunch of games to run some more tests tonight. Hopefully, we can get a clearer picture of the performance.
     
  2. Shaden

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    but we will still need a basis for comparison .... 580 owners ????
     
  3. Xeneize

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    Running it now, just doesn't let me copy/paste (i get a black screen) give me a couple but the run was 80.2 with the same settings and full stock clocks.

    So less than the 6990 in this case.
     
  4. Xeneize

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    Here you go. Stock speeds.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Red Line

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    Need a better CPU, indeed)

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Xeneize

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    no you don't..... disable Ani lol
     
  7. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    I agree with "no you don't." There is not enough difference between the two of your benchmark scores to justify the difference in cost between the CPUs based on this benchmark alone. You could see easily that little bit of variance between two identically spec'd M18x laptops. Not that Red Line would not want a better CPU for other valid reasons, but I thought these were too close to call.

    Red Line - I look forward to seeing if you get closer or match with anisotrophic filtering disabled.
     
  8. Red Line

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    I agree too, xm CPU is not really relevant in Unigine) But in general for 3dmark11/Vantage it's the right upgrade :D

    anyway, got another 0.3 bump with total of 79.2 fps! nice)))

    edit: got to do a metro 2033 bench run now!
     
  9. Xeneize

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    only .4 with ani off?? that's weird... I would have thought you would gain at least 3-4 fps.
     
  10. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Thanks for posting that one up Aiki, Im about to do some stock bench runs on my new rig below so that helps out. Im still on Dell Drivers atm and managed to rattle off a quick vantage run with stock cpu/gpu settings. Score was about 23k. How does that compare I wonder....

    (That score was prior to putting my 16gb HyperX back in - Ive just done that so will do another run - still on the 320hdd too btw)
     
  12. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Great, when we are done, let's make a summary of benches (6990MCF vs 580MSLI). BTW, do you have a full version of Just Cause 2 (dx11)?
     
  13. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No mate. I was wondering if I needed the full version or could just bench it via the demo....
     
  14. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    that's how it works, man) it's just ani, not anti-aliasing! BTW, my Metro 2033 run:

    Stock: 620/1500

    [​IMG]

    OC: 750/1750

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Xeneize

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    Going to run it... as I remember i think I was getting 28-29 FPS with the .26 drivers...

    Are these stock runs Red Line?
     
  16. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Demo is DX10 I think that's y I'm getting 2x FPS, lol. Just a guess.
     
  17. Red Line

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    Yep, marked stock and OC'ed) are the setting i used good for the benchmark?
    enabling "DOF" is a bit of an overkill, never used it before...
     
  18. steviejones133

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    Ahhhh....gotcha. Mind 2x FPS is nice :p

    You done a stock vantage Aiki? - if so, what d'ya get?
     
  19. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Give it a shot @ max everything including DOF. I'll do the same tonight :)
     
  20. Red Line

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    here u go, bud :)

    Resolution: 1920 x 1080
    DirectX: DirectX 11
    Quality: Very High
    Antialiasing: MSAA 4X
    Texture filtering: AF 16X
    Advanced PhysX: Disabled
    Tesselation: Enabled
    DOF: Enabled


    Stock GPU's: 620/1500

    [​IMG]

    OC'ed GPU's: 750/1750

    [​IMG]
     
  21. steviejones133

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    Just wondering here but arent these Metro results gonna be slightly conflicting as Aiki has a 2960xm vs Red Line's 2630qm....Metro is a very cpu dependant game so results may be a bit hard to compare.

    From recollection, I was getting almost 30fps with the same settings when I had my 6970's / 2920xm. (posted somewhere in this thread!)
     
  22. Johnksss

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  23. Xeneize

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    Wow, so I guess his card is throttling free? And how the heck did he achieve those clock speeds with A1!?
     
  24. Johnksss

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    not sure exactly
     
  25. Xeneize

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    Metro 2033

    Resolution: 1920 x 1080
    DirectX: DirectX 11
    Quality: Very High
    Antialiasing: MSAA 4X
    Texture filtering: AF 16X
    Advanced PhysX: Disabled
    Tesselation: Enabled
    DOF: Disabled


    Stock GPU's: 620/1500

    [​IMG]

    Resolution: 1920 x 1080
    DirectX: DirectX 11
    Quality: Very High
    Antialiasing: MSAA 4X
    Texture filtering: AF 16X
    Advanced PhysX: Disabled
    Tesselation: Enabled
    DOF: Enabled


    OC GPU's: 750/1500

    [​IMG]
     
  26. Red Line

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    Xeneize, seems like we have almost identical results here! CPU power is kinda useless in this particular game)

    BTW, updated benches in my sig...
     
  27. Xeneize

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    Does anyone know what "throttling removal using the blind flash method" for the M17x R3 580M means?

    widezu69 is the one that made the comment.... sorry I never look at the M17x forums so completely disconnected.

    Johnkss... I guess that would do it, if we can remove the throttle then we're all set, then again I suspect you already knew that and your point is that they found a way before us :(
     
  28. Red Line

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    here 10char
     
  29. Johnksss

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    the process seems to be different for the m18x
     
  30. Xeneize

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    I think this may hold true for most games... it's synthetic benches that CPU has an advantage, pretty useless in real world gaming.
     
  31. Syrious

    Syrious Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am new to the Alienware scene, and Benchmarking in general. I scanned the forums for similar system setups to see their benches but thought I would just ask here if you guys think these scores are normal/average.

    I used the free version of 3DMark-Vantage, and am just going to copy paste the results from their website. Thanks for any input, and I hope you are all having a great week.

    Score: P22101 3DMarks

    AMD Radeon HD 6970M video card 3DMark Vantage benchmark test score
    Name

    (I have dual 6990ms, or at least that's what I ordered; seems they only show up as 6900 series anywhere I look, so I am not sure why they show up as 6970s here)

    Description Processor
    Intel Core i7-2820QM Processor

    Processor clock 3090 MHz
    Physical / logical processors
    1 / 8
    # of cores 4

    Graphics Card

    Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6970M

    Vendor Dell Computer Corporation

    # of cards 2 SLI / CrossFire
    On

    Memory
    2048 MB

    Core clock
    715 MHz

    Memory clock
    900 MHz

    Driver name

    Driver version
    8.851.2.0

    Driver status

    Not FM Approved

    General

    Operating system
    64-bit Windows 7 (6.1.7601)

    Motherboard
    Alienware M18xR1

    Memory
    8192 MB

    Module 1
    4096 MB Hyundai Electronics 9 @ 667 MHz

    Module 2
    4096 MB Hyundai Electronics 9 @ 667 MHz
    Hard drive model

    500GB WDC WD5000BPKT-75PK4T0

    Detailed scores

    3DMark Score
    22101 3DMarks

    Graphics Score
    22431

    CPU Score
    21169

    Jane Nash
    65.6 FPS

    New Calico
    65.82 FPS

    AI Test
    2938 operations/s

    Physics Test
    27 operations/s

    Settings

    Default settings used

    Yes

    Preset
    Performance

    Width
    1280

    Height
    1024

    MSAA
    1

    Texture Filtering
    Optimal
    Anisotropy
    1

    Texture Quality
    Performance

    Shader Quality
    Performance

    Shadow Shader Quality
    Performance

    Shadow Resolution Quality
    Performance

    Post Processing Scale
    1:2

    PPU Disabled
    true

    PPU Used
    false

    Disable Bloom
    false

    Disable Streaks
    false

    Disable Anamorphic Flare
    false

    Disable Lens Flare
    false

    Disable Lenticular Halo
    false

    Disable Motion Blur
    false

    Disable DOF
    false

    Disable Fog
    false

    Disable Color Noise
    false

    Flush On Low FPS
    false

    Fixed Framerate
    false

    GPU Count
    2

    Most of this is Greek to me, I understand what it is supposed to represent, just not if the representation is good, bad, or average. Thanks again for any input, everyone, and have a great week!
     
  32. steviejones133

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    They seem about right to me. Ive just got my new system and have run stock vantage too. With this run below, everything remains at factory settings with factory drivers. Only difference is my 16gb ram. Stock score a bit over 23k but then my slightly higher score can be attributed to cpu mainly and a tiny bit 'cos of memory, maybe. Dont worry about your gpu's showing on Futuremark as 6970 - they havent been able to read/display the 6990 correctly for some time now....in fact, since they were launched, I havent seen one bench from FM with 6990m displayed correctly in the results.

    Stock Vantage / Dell Drivers / no tweaks - result.
     
  33. DR650SE

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    insane .... physical mod though, out of reach of 99.9% of people :(
     
  35. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Yea, I was reading it over at T|I. I'd love to do it to my dual 6990's but my PSU/mobo would throttle like crazy.
     
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    Thought I should throw my hat in the ring. :D

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for for the awesome, and quick reply, I really appreciate it!
     
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    great score!

    but im thinking...this time next week..shaden will be crown holder of this benchmark.... :D :) at about 9k over all... :D


    dr650se:
    was checking out the mod myself...only problem is...if you mess up one time...your done and have to buy new cards. also..was wondering if pencil modding could work instead of soldering...
     
  39. Flashpoint

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    Can't seem to find the original source/diagram but if its just connecting two pads or shorting a couple of resistors together, a solder pen should work if the pencil doesn't (pencils seem to be hit or miss lately as they put a bunch of extra crap in the graphite).
     
  40. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Afraid of some soldering John? ;)
     
  41. Johnksss

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    hummmm, i have plenty cards modded..how many you got.. ;)


    now if that worked..that would be great news..since software can just about accurately monitor the voltage. no need to solder read points either.
     
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    Hmm, never heard of a pencil or pen. Time for moar research!
     
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    Is it possible to undo any work with it? Wash it off? I may use it instead of pin modding my M11x R1 if it is possible.

    Also, on the CPU, where the pen has been used at the edge? what was the point of that particular mod?
     
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    On most of them they can be cleaned with rubbing alcohol (just don't apply a trace sealer as recommended).
     
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    mharidas VLSI/FAB Engineer

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    You can use Pin grabbers which are effective in clinging onto chip legs if the spacing between each leg is sufficient enough.

    [​IMG]
     
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    bclk adjustment.
    http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/340961-trying-overclock-core-2-duo-e4300.html#post3980490
    i concur.
    you know we are talking about a laptop right? :D
     
  48. mharidas

    mharidas VLSI/FAB Engineer

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    Chips for VRM's come in all shapes and sizes. I haven't looked at the chip in question here, if the spacing is sufficient you can use this. :) Those grabbing points are very small once they are retracted into a tight vice.
     
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    And Oh boy am I looking forward to it ... if these pens and such work though, the next step might be modding ... I am actually considering it now :)
     
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    yessir.... kind of hard explaining extra solder on your cards for rma. and most people will try to rma it. also has a 50/50 chance....they take it or they void ones warranty and send it back as is or ask you to pay for new cards...all depends on what tech is working that day.


    hummmm..like to see how your going to put that on a m18xr1 gpu pcb with the laptop closed up. but hey...you are the man if you can! :D :D
    good for testing...but if it slips off and hits a component..there goes your 3k laptop. me...i did that with a 600 dollar desktop card...
     
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