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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Mr. Fox, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Mr. Fox

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    Looks like GPU boost is still enabled, so am I correct in assuming that score is with stock 880M vBIOS? Once that it fixed, looks like it might be a great upgrade. A 400 point advantage is pretty impressive under the circumstances.
     
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    We shall see...remember, that's a 100 mhz faster than the 780m....but these 880M's if done right....will clearly surpass them.
    Can you do a run with 954/1250 single card 3dmark11...if you have time? Thanks.
    Boost is broken...haha
     
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    pidge Notebook Guru

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    Just purchased a refurb Alienware 18 from Dell (arrives next week) but had a quick question. How is the input lag on this laptop, especially with FPS games like BF3/BF4? Thanks.
     
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    That's sweet john!
     
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    Sure, bro. I am assuming you meant with the core actually running at 954 (rather than what the main GPU-Z window shows).

    Looking at your wallpaper, did you switch to Windows 8.1 or dual-booting with 7? This run is in Windows 7, with CPU set to stock 3.8GHz turbo-boost to match your screen shot.

    3,8-954-1250.jpg

    Now, here are identical settings with Windows 8.1 to compare. As expected, CPU performance is castrated by the "new and improved" Windows, LOL.
    Looking at the graph, the GPU core clocks also bounce around in Windows 8.1, but it's a solid steady line with Windows 7. Gotta love the "new way."

    3.8-965-1250.jpg

    Edit 1: I see they bumped the stock voltage from 1.000V to 1.018V on 880M.

    Edit 2: Uh-oh. Forgot I was running the new beta driver on Windows 7. Just to be accurate on the comparison, I updated Windows 8.1 to the same beta. Better results.

    3.8-965-1250-v2.jpg
     
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    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    This is not an alienware 18 but rather my little brothers alienware 17 that I picked up from the outlet for a slick deal. It came with 4700mq, 1080p FHD, 770m, 64gb Msata SSD, 750gb WD Black 7.2k rpm HDD, 16gb ram, and 240w AC adapter. Right away I fired up XTU and hit 725 points with mild settings. Flashed over slv7 bios and cranked the settings +220 mhz core and +520 mhz memory along with 50mv (settings credited to lm1z). How does this 770m perform overclock compared to a 680m. I was working with an extremely tight budget and needs something with lots of bang for not so much buck.

    http://hwbot.org/xtu/analyze/2491546

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...benchmark-thread-part-3-a-22.html#post9507631

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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Alienware 068R5X


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    JP7KP 1 Base,Notebook,Balanced Technology Extended,RANGER
    K972H 1 Module,Adapter,Alternating Current,240W,Delta - Ac Adapt World Wide
    N971H 1 Module,Cord,Power,125V,2M,C13 United States
    611P7 1 Module,Assembly,Base,Optical Device Drive,AW17R1
    3XWVK 1 Module,Cover,HNG-UP,Wireless Local Area Network Card,AW17R1
    NXGDN 1 Module,Software,W8H/P64,Digital Video Disk Drive,MUL24
    JC80D 1 Module,Software,W8H64,England/English,DAO/BCC
    7P3MG 1 Module,Processor,HSW,I7-4700MQ,2.4,17R1
    5C2R1 1 Module,Dual In-Line Memory Module,16GB,4X4GB,1600,DDR3L
    MDDF9 1 Module,Hard Drive,750,7.2,P11,4K,MX375
    RY98H 1 Module,Solid State Drive,64,MCARD,PM830,ISRT
    K68JV 1 Module,Dvd+/-Rw,Hitachi Lg Data Storage,BARE,Alienware
    YFWNC 1 Module,Card,Graphics,NV14E-GS,AW17R1 (770m)
    8132H 1 Module,Card,Network,BCM4352,World Wide,Artwork
    YXWJH 1 Module,Shipping Material,Notebook,Alienware,17,REGLR
    C112J 1 Module,Documentation,SERI/WSI English,DAO/BCC
    W753G 1 Module,Information,Direct Ship,Compal,TSINGMA
    RC4TG 1 Service Install Module,Software,BCM4352,Alienware,Logitech Dovebar
    68CGP 1 Module,Software,Microsoft,Gml Inc,Operating System,W8,Consumer
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    KHCK5 1 MOD,INFO,GNRC
    CXR80 1 Service Install Module,Software,Alienware,AW17R1
    WCRMT 1 Module,Software,Cyberlink,Suite,ESLS,Consumer,Board
    8RJV4 1 Module,Software,Windows,Live,Essentials
    J5V02 1 Module,Software,DSPRT-CTR,3.X
    CVYV4 1 Module,Software,DBR1.0,BASIC,CSMB
    NR5YV 1 Module,Software,Quick Fix Engineering,WIN8
    6WC8X 1 Module,Liquid Crystal Display,17.3FHD,AG,Legend,AW17R1
     
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    Here's a quick comparison, not scientific but ballpark: Result Comparison - Single 680M versus Single 770M

    680M has roughly 1,000+ 3DMark lead on 770M in the above comparison. 770M is in the middle between 580M/675M and 680M ( comparison link)... 680M falls in between 770M and 780M, but seems to be a little closer to 780M than 770M in the range between the two 700M series GPUs.
     
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  8. faiz23

    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    Thank you for that link and is that an overclocked 680m or stock setting. I wanted to get him close to stock 680m performance for the price of 770m.

    Samsarulz`s 3DMark - Fire Strike score: 4303 marks with a GeForce GTX 680M

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's hard to tell because the actual clock speeds are not displayed. I just picked one that looked reasonable searching on Futuremark. It's not my score. Based on what is available, 770M was a good option without spending a lot of money. It should game nicely for your brother.
     
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    The actual core speed drops to 888/1250 or 888/405 and bounces around. It never seems to want to run at 954/1250 or 993/1250

    This time it did not drop....
    [​IMG]
     
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    Can anyone comment on the LCD input lag/response time? Is it ok for FPS shooters? Ordered a refurb Alienware 18 w/ 770m SLI GPUs and could not find any info on the monitors input lag. Still have time to cancel if it is not very good.
     
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    I have not seen any evidence of input lag with the Alienware 18 LCD. This 18 has 780M SLI and does a fantastic job of playing FPS games.

    As a matter of fact, I have never seen any evidence of LCD input lag with any Alienware laptop, 18, 17, M18xR1/R2 and M17xR2. All of them are marvelous FPS gaming machines.

    Cool! So, we can say with a degree of accuracy that it is at least as good as 780M and has 8GB of vRAM so that's awesome. If you're still using the stock vBIOS with all of the expected NVIDIA performance impediments that should actually improve with tweaks and end up being better than 780M. Great news! I was kind of worried the increase in vRAM might hurt it the way Dell 680M cards with 2GB of vRAM always performed better than 4GB Clevo GPUs.
     
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    Mr. Fox, I just noticed you managed 20k GPU in 3DMark 11! That is amazing, did you do it with two PSU's? You got me thinking about upgrading to 780M again, hopefully the prices come down with 880M about to come out.
     
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    Testing the memory over clock...
    5vwe.jpg
     
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    Looking pretty nice, Brother John. That 880M memory overclocks well.

    With and without dual PSU, depending on which way it is done. Just letting the CPU run full blast from the start, yes with the dual PSU is the only way to keep the machine running. If using ThrottleStop to manage the CPU clock speeds it can be done with a single PSU.
     
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    Indeed Brother Fox. So now all the naysayers can beat it!. :D :D
     
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    I feel prety bad now and think to upgrade ... my GTX 780M dosen't take more then 954MHz at the stock GTX 880M Voltage. I have try with 1.025V and 1.037V too :s.

    JohnKsss do you think you can push the core more or it the limite stable ?
     
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    This card with the svl7/johnkss vbios mod has all kinds of room.
    But in the words of htwingnut. It's not mine to break. :D
     
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    So what, you think to have anothers 50 MHz to squeeze again easy and 100MHz for bench only maybe ?
     
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    100 mhz? Im pretty sure it will run just like the 680 and the 780 did...With the same or higher clocks....Depending on user
    5zbw.jpg
     
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    Dang, look how many watts the 4930MX draws... 139.5W at 4.5GHz. That's just crazy for a mobile. But, 330W AC adapter with 780M SLI is "enough" according to the experts, LOL. I guess 880M SLI won't need any more than that either.

    139.5W.jpg
     
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    Not really...the 2960/2920xm could draw 122W to 130W constant.
    Try that running cinebench. it will give you the true all the time watts. Put it in window mode and have your watts monitoring software right next to it.
     
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    Only 128.5W with Cinebench... guess I forgot about my 2920XM power demands since my 3920XM draws so much less.

    9.65.jpg
     
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    Flash to the svl7/johnksss vBios, Put fans on full 100%, Set at 1.1 vGPU, with core at 1000. Should go to 1100 core on 1.1V. vMem is a crap shoot. Just leave that stock for npw
     
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    Yep, that's why the 3940/3920 are not fully performing....they need to be in the constant 120 to 130 watt max...not 105W max class
     
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    That could have a little something to do with why the M18xR2 handles 780M SLI so much better than the new 18 as well... especially since the 18 can't take advantage of the dual AC adpater. That 20-30W extra might make a big difference and become a more serious problem when you've barely got enough to function.
     
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    Yes, i fully concur Brother Fox.
     
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    Thank you very much. I was concerned because it has been a while since I last purchased a gaming laptop.
     
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    Finally managed to break 13k on 3DMark2011 yesterday. Just got a 17.5k graphics score out of nowhere so I thought I would post. I thought it was pretty good for my weak little 4700mq.
     

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    Maybe johnksss can update the leaderboard post on page 1? Since my score is stock, it's interesting to see what a non MX/XM CPU can do and over 13k sounds pretty good actually...
     
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    so ivy xm are under performing? i was almost certain 100-110 watts sounds about right cause thats how desktop ivy chip compared to it's sandy chip, less watts at same or higher clock.
     
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    Yes, 100W up to a max of about 110W is about the most you'll see out of Ivy XM. And, that's will a pretty heavy OC.

    It's does not really help anything for the 4930MX to draw as much power as it does with all of the overheating and throttling that accompanies it. If you're not using Liquid Ultra for the 4930MX it's really pathetic how poorly it performs due to heat.
     
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    Full on Brother Johnksss. Almost 11k from a single mobile card is crazy stuff.
    Your GPU score is 11,000. When I had 7970CF (R9 m290x lol :D) OCed I couldn't break 13,000 GPU score.
     
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    Thanks Brother Tbone. :)
     
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    message me
    brother jonhksss i have a question..
     
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    Liquid Ultra still working like a champ on this "fire breathing" 4930MX blast furnace. ;)

    FFXIV-17848.jpg
     
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    Hey all. I have been away for a bit. I got some new bench marks for you to look at. Let me know what you think.

    The first is my XTU settings.The second is my score online.

    The 3rd is my Vantage score. It has jumped 1000 points. Vantage.jpg

    Here is one that is at @4291 GHz after playing a game for a wile. Dont know what is up with that.

    Anyway let me know what you guys think about my settings. Should I be using Throttlestop?

    I just bumped it up to 4.1 last night. I will upload those soon. Thanks
     

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    Good job, pa2806n. The XTU score is right where it should be for 4.0GHz. Using ThrottleStop should help 3DMark11 and Vantage, but it might not make much difference with XTU. It probably won't lower the XTU score. You should try it and see.

    Try a wPrime 32M test and see what the results look like. I just ran this one at 4.7GHz. No special cooling... just the CPU fan and Liquid Ultra. Flex was set at 75 and Pri Plane at 180A (would be 1440 in BIOS) using ThrottleStop.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Those temps are amazing for 4.7 Ghz and only manual fan control. I want to try Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra but I wan't to see how long this stuff lasts first. I don't particularly enjoy constantly taking my laptop apart, I can put up with maybe once a year or so, that's kinda the reason I went with IC Diamond. But now the performance of this new stuff is really enticing. Going to wait and see.
     
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    CAn you redo this exact same test, but this time 1024? Thanks
     
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    Here is a 1024m run...
    1024m.jpg

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    Looks like the 880M is capable of new world records....
    gm5p.jpg
     
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    interesting. what about a test with 3dmark11?
     
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    You get a negative point for not scrolling up first. LOL
     
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    oops my bad. :D
     
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    It has been a month since I repasted with Liquid Ultra and I can tell you that it still cools almost as well as the fresh application and better than a fresh repaste with IC Diamond. See temps in post #845. I'm still a fan of IC Diamond, but this Liquid Ultra stuff is superior and more durable. I don't know that I will use it on my GPUs because they don't have any cooling issues with IC Diamond.
     
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    One for the Firestike boards: 9661 - Shame I can't break 10k. Being nuetered by 1 PSU.

    9661.jpg
     
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    I don't think 1 psu is the problem... :)
     
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