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    *Official* Alienware M18xR1/R2 CPU Overclocking Thread - Learn How and Share Tips Here

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by BatBoy, May 14, 2011.

  1. Johnksss

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    im noticing this myself.
     
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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    On the plus side though...he is throttling due to temps. Since I have my throttle temp at 110 and the CPU will shut down the system at 100c.....well you can guess what I have experienced haha
     
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    this is true...and he can run 45x with 10 vid / amps 112... it would seem. when temps are under control
     
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    Awesome thx guys and a special thanks to Johnksss who took me under his wing and we really got this thing on track, just need to stabilize my room temperature but Johnkss got me right on 45x and here's the CPU run

    [​IMG]

    We broke 28500 on Vantage which is about 1000 points more than I could manage on my own! (signature)

    The great news is that this thing was able to boot on a first try with clocks set to 46x apparently a big deal, so more testing to come soon.

    Johnksss man, thanks for the time and the help, clearly wouldn't have done it without you! +rep :D
     
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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I am jealous on that 46x part. My laptop just wont do it :(
     
  6. Johnksss

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    welcome to the 30k club!

    no worries. glad to help.


    side note:
    yeah sam, his just took without us doing anything..set and go. :(
    at 10 vid/112 amps, but we ran out of time for testing...
     
  7. Shaden

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    Oh god I can't wait to do this ... I want to break 30K total score though ... mmmmm 30K
     
  8. Xeneize

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    Johnksss,

    3DMark 2006 saw an improvement of 1000k over my past best mark and with no special room temperature.... Temps went up in the mid 90's during the CPU tests but held 45x most of the GFX tests.
     

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    you and me both!
    now that's what im talking about! nice job!
     
  10. Xeneize

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    lol right back at you... all i did is press a button, kudos to you man.
     
  11. Red Line

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    Congrats with the decent score, man :D For the conclusion, is that what u have changed in the bios:

    Performance Options:

    45/45/45/45 Flex Vid 25
    Override Turbo Settings maxed everything

    Advanced CPU Control (power)

    Everything Enabled by default
    Long Duration PWR Limit set to 99 (for some reason after saving it defaults to 0)
    Long Duration TimeWindow: 56
    Short Duration PWR Limit: 99
    Pri Plane: 900
    Sec Plane: 0

    Thermal Configuration (advanced)
    Changed throttle to 90c from 85c

    10 vid / amps 112 :confused: where did u set this?
     
  12. Johnksss

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    you dont see it in the bios, but the numbers add up to that.
     
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    What do I need to do to get my computer to run a consistent 4.0ghz when rendering without throttling, but I do not want to damage any components by running them too hard.
     
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    up primary plane to 900 and that's about it. maybe make another change or two.
     
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    What other changes? Should I keep the low fan at 75 or go to 100? What is the primary plane?
     
  16. Xeneize

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    I don't think the BIOS has full control of the fans, what John had me do is download HwInfo32 and control the fans from there, basically lowing the thresholds so that thy kick in at around 50c.

    Primary Plane is Amps, where 900 in Prim Plane translate into xxxx amps (Johnksss calculation... beats me) :D
     
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    Where can i find the primary plane section?
     
  18. Xeneize

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    you need the A03 Unlocked Bios. And you will find this under Power-Cpu Advanced options
     
  19. cookinwitdiesel

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    Plane current is in 1/8th amps

    So 900/8=112.5 Amps ;)
     
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    My mistake it was the wrong [pic I posted. The far right menu out of view houses the cpu power settings and on that menu you can go to 99 long limit.

    sorry here is the proper pic.

    [​IMG]
     
  21. residualvoltage

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    Overclocked Intel Extreme Edition Core i7-2960XM Quad-Core Processor (4.1GHz - 4.8GHz with Turbo Boost), 8MB Cache
    cheers its the exact same overclock they offered on the 2920xm i checked when it was there...
     
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    Check out here: The OverClockers BSOD code list

    Posted by HaMMeR=GoM=
    The OverClockers BSOD code list


    BSOD codes for overclocking
    0x101 = increase vcore
    0x124 = increase/decrease QPI/VTT first, if not increase/decrease vcore...have to test to see which one it is
    on i7 45nm, usually means too little VVT/QPI for the speed of Uncore
    on i7 32nm SB, usually means too little vCore
    0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
    0x1A = Memory management error. It usually means a bad stick of Ram. Test with Memtest or whatever you prefer. Try raising your Ram voltage
    0x1E = increase vcore
    0x3B = increase vcore
    0x3D = increase vcore
    0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary, can also be unstable Ram, raise Ram voltage
    0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
    0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
    0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
    0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
    0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r

    BSOD Codes for SandyBridge
    0x124 = add/remove vcore or QPI/VTT voltage (usually Vcore, once it was QPI/VTT)
    0x101 = add more vcore
    0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency add DDR3 voltage or add QPI/VTT
    0x1E = add more vcore
    0x3B = add more vcore
    0xD1 = add QPI/VTT voltage
    “0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances”
    0X109 = add DDR3 voltage
    0x0A = add QPI/VTT voltage

    Please feel free to comment, advise, correct, and add to this list. I am not the original author and will not take credit for it. I simply thought that it should be posted by itself. I am only repeating the info that I got here and at OCN. This is currently for Intel i7 systems, but I would like for everyone to help me set it up for other systems as well. I will update the list as new information is received.

    Thanks, just giving back,
    /eVo/HaMMeR=GoM=


    Cheers guys I posted these at T|I but theres multiple bsod codes for needing a voltage bump 124, 3b etc just read link above. I personally have run into these four myself and the voltage increase made them go away which were 3b, 101, 124 and 1E
     
  23. residualvoltage

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    Guys why go on about 4ghz whatever quad core as a limit. The true limits are around here at 1.5vid but with the given cooling of this laptop I can only peak for split seconds or insta-shutdown due to reaching my shutdown temp. But you see you could set a short time limit of a few seconds and peak there for sure... but it isn't logical since your long-term speeds would be half of what a more reasonable vid would give.. ie in the 0-25 flex range... not 50flex which is what I was running for this... obviously I couldn't run a wprime 32m at this or anything more stressful like prime95... but you get the picture. With extreme cooling and enough voltage... I proved 99flex is the highest the unlocked bios allows and will show a pic if necessary. Cheeres isn't this just awesome. So I think the 2960xm can reach the same levels making I think the only difference the stock speed. So if you got a 2960xm for the same price we got the 2920xm's then good for you... but if you paid more you shouldn't have.

    5000mhz 8threads 50 50 50 50 w/50 flex 100bclk (in bios... 99.8 in windows)
    (i don't remember the amps or watts I had set) Needs high amps though!

    Notice at the light load of this utility it only took 85watts. 8threads @ 100% load... throttle stop never lies atleast without a doubt on the core load.

    [​IMG]

    BTW i have had decent benches on stock bios... Thank you Johnkss your too kind. My best time with stock cooling and fans at max I can only get as low as 168secs on wprime 1024M. But recently just for s single bench on the wprime 1024m i used an air-conditioning underneath it and got 167.02 or something i'll post it later today here. Barely under Johnkss's score. But so far that has been the only run I did with an air-conditioning... i don't own one i had to use my parents. So anything I have posted so far was only using fans at max and before the bench I cool off using throttle stop... lock at 800mhz and then set cmod or chipmod under 100% which will help bring your pre bench temps down a tiny bit more.. I posted that too in my guide at Tech | Inferno.
     
  24. residualvoltage

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    Screw Origin... we can set about 4.6quad to 4.8 or 4.9 single core so easily. Just the higher you set the single core speed the more voltage will be required.. so I don't recommend reaching for too high a single core speed for a 24/7 overclock since it will cripple you quad core speeds. so as you raise the single core speeds there will be too much heat for your quad speeds. Find your best quad speeds and only add more single core speed till the voltage required for your quad speeds isnt enough to handle the single core speed you set. Then go back to the highest single core speed that was stable while using the 4.6quad speed without adding more voltage. Now I am not saying you can use 4.6ghz for long term... you will need to adjust the long term limit watts to a level that under worst case scenario temps wont thermally shut you down or throttle. Happy testing. I use intel burn and prime to determine what I can set my long term limit to.

    I guarantee its the same thing with origin... so they set 4.1 quad I say 4.6ghz... so perhaps for long-term limits you can set enough watts to allow over their 4.1 quad but with the way I described you can then peak at 4.6ghzquad etc... my 4.6ghz quad is based on my own testing and Johnkss testing we both found 4.6ghz to be near thermal quad limits for tests or loads that are as long as wprime 1024m.
     
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    So besides primary plane to 900 wat else should I do. I have my core ratios as 40 40 40 40. Oh and i do have the unlocked bios.

    Should I change the long duration to 80 (for some reason it maxes out here) and the short duration to 99?

    And should i disable the turbo power limit msr lock?
     
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    well, before going on...you should make sure it runs at 40x all 8 threads...
    so open throttle stop and wprime155. run the bench 1024 (set threads to 8 then save) and see if your temps and turbo cores hold at 40x the whole time.
     
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    Should i get throttlestop 3.00.1 or 3.4?
     
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    3.4 will be fine
     
  29. Side-Swipe

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    What should I select on both kind of a noob here
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

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    When we say 40x on all cores, we mean 40.00 anything less (39.9X) is not what we want here. It wont seem like much but you WILL see a difference in the performance due to this, the non exact value means that your cpu speed is rapidly changing and not stabilized
     
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    Why is 900 the magic number for primary plane?
     
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    i got 252.797 seconds. The cpu was at 3.8 then 3.7 then throttled to 3.5 like a quarter of the way through.
     
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    Exactly since 4.0ghz 8threads is able to be sustained for very long periods with ease.
     
  34. residualvoltage

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    see this pic its just above the pic i posted before if your not in "advanced cpu control menu" you can't go over 80watts long in the normal overclock menu but in the unlocked bios if you go to the menu in this pic you can raise long to 99watts in the unlocked bios.

    [​IMG]
     
  35. Side-Swipe

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    So should i disable vt support enable mac cpuid and enable c7?


    I currently have my settings set like residual voltage's in his screenshots, except for primary plan which is at 900.
     
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    don't take this wrong...but um...did you do the testing we are all waiting on???????????? :D :D
    once your stable...you can go back and get fancy. :D
     
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    I did and i posted the results up top but for some reason after I set residualvoltages settings i am no longer getting my screen to work. It is not powering up... I think im boned and its bricked.
     
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    no your cool.
    just unplug power and pull battery...wait 10 seconds...then plug it back in...all good.

    side note:
    oh yea...what were your temps for that run?
     
  39. Side-Swipe

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    In the beginning of the run, cores 1-4 were in the high 80s and the 5-8 were in the low 90s, then they came down to 76ish and 81ish respectively.
     
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    So i unplugged the cord pulled battery and still no screen.
     
  41. Xeneize

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    Did you put the battery in?
     
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    that's because throttle kicked in and dropped them. temps to high
     
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    Yeah i did :( bricked.
     
  44. Xeneize

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    Wow that's very unlikely man...
     
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    no you didn't. now unplug the cmos battery. sorry but you're very very very far from bricking... :)
     
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    We Have Screen!!!!!!!!!!!! Reps For Everyone!
     
  47. Xeneize

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    Johnksss Word is the sh-it-zu :D
     
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    Ok so running benchmark again. temp for core 1 and 2 is stable at around 80, core 3 and 4 are at 86/87 with cores 5 and 6 being 1 degree higher and 7 and 8 are at 83/84. CPU started at 3.7 and eventually dropped to 3.5 .

    The final time is 255.081 seconds.
     
  49. Xeneize

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    Did you change the trottling from 85 to 90 in the Thermal Options on the BIOS?

    Keep in mind that temperatures are your worst enemy, if they hit throttling at any point the clocks will be scale down to 35x or lower, the idea is to find the right Amps/Volatage balance that will sustain the multiplier you are aiming for (say 40x) for a good stress test, but if your room temps are high you wont achieve this. Also if you're like me and never done a re-pasting job we run at a disadvantage as well.

    I have no issues with 40x, with 45x i just can't sustain a whole Vantage/3DMark run unless I'm in the freezer....
     
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    cool. told you things were not as bad as you thought. :)
    :D thanks!
    lets start farther back

    set everything to 37x and go from there.
     
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