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    Time to say goodbye fellow Alienware M18xR2 owners

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by ht_addict, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. ht_addict

    ht_addict Notebook Evangelist

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    So I decided it was time to move on from my M18x R2, and build myself a new desktop. The urge was to great.. I've always been a dîehard AMD fan, so my system is being built around that. Here's what i'm putting together.

    AMD FX 9590(5Ghz)
    Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula Z
    (2x)Sapphire FuryX 4GB Crossfire
    Gskill Trident 2x8GB(DDR3 2400mhz)
    EVGA SuperNova G2 1600watt Gold
    Dual Samsung 840Pro SSD
    Corsair 760T case

    Happy Gaming.

    Updated: Added a second FuryX. Scaling on these babies is amazing. Had to sell off a couple of my other toys to fund. Oh well. While I was at it, took advantage of a wrong price tag at my local CC store. Was able to pickup the PSU for $150 off as the tag was miss price. Gotta love it.
     
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  2. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I'm jealous of that FuryX
     
  4. vulcan78

    vulcan78 Notebook Deity

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    Well, I applaud your decision, having made the same myself in the summer of 2014, but I must ask if it is possible to wait say 6 months until early 2016? You say youre an AMD fan, so this may not be of import to you, but Nvidia's Pascal architecture will be out early 2016 and promises to be 100% faster than Maxwell. Yes. Wrap your head around that one. Imagine 2x 980 Ti performance on a single card. Or 2x Fury X on DX12 performance on a single card, same difference. Thing is, and I'm absolutely not a fanboy here, G-Sync is actually better than FreeSync and you could have 2x Fury X performance for the same cost outlay simply waiting to do your upgrade 4-6 months from now.

    I'm just saying.

    Everyone told me the same thing and I didn't listen and bought 780 Ti right before (as in 3 months later) Maxwell rolled out and although GTX 980 wasn't really any faster than 780 Ti right at launch, in 2015 driver development around the architecture widened that to the point that now a 980 is a good 25% faster than 780 Ti. Had I simply taken everyone's advice and waited a few months that would have been a 50% performance improvement for free (I went 2x 780 Ti SLI).

    I would wait, and I would reconsider the fanboyism, unless there are specific reasons for going with AMD over Nvidia. Right now I am enjoying both 3D Vision and G-Sync on my Asus ROG Swift and the occasional title with PhysX and Hairworks etc. I absolutely deplore the degradation in Nvidia driver quality assurance and trust me, having been banned from the Feedback Forum's over on Nvidia's Geforce forums, they know it. I am using Nvidia for the aforementioned features and that's it. If AMD could do 3D Vision and their FreeSync was as good as G-Sync I would consider their products. It's also sad that AMD has been so late with their product releases, Fury X is out now and on DX12 it is competitive with GM200 (Titan X, 980 Ti) at default clocks, but correct me if I'm wrong, GM200 is severely (no ridiculously) underclocked, as in factory boost clocks of 1100MHz whereas nearly all of us under water or AIO are sitting above 1500MHz on default voltage! And Fury X has no overclocking headroom. So yeah, it's a bit disingenuous to say that Fury X is as fast as Titan X/ 980 Ti, even on DX12, considering the latter are conservatively underclocked and that Fury X has no overclocking headroom (you can't even overclock HBM). Default 980 Ti/ Titan X Firestrike Normal is around 16-17k but these cards at 1500MHz are flirting with 22k GPU (bench in signature)!

    I want to be absolutely clear that I'm not a fanboy here, I've owned both AMD and Nvidia, if one product is better than the other, significantly so in fact, offering more features and considerably better performance for the same price, I would reconsider my diehard brand loyalty.

    I would only consider Fury X if I did not care about G-Sync (oh you better believe the hype) didn't care that it would rendered completely obsolete by similarly priced Pascal in 4-6 month's time and absolutely need the form factor.



    The Fury X IS an awesome card. I absolutely love it. It screams enthusiast grade kit with it's integrated AIO, HMB, and form factor and the fact that it's architecture was built around DX12 shows that forward thinking went into it's design. BUT IT'S ONE YEAR LATE. The Fury X doesn't really compete with full-die GM200, it competes with overclocked GM204, a.k.a GTX 980. Yes, that's the sad truth, AMD took too long to release the Fury X. Had they released it year ago, it would've been a grand slam out of the ball park but now it's only slightly competitive with 980 Ti at default clocks, has zero overclocking headroom, whereas GM204 under water or AIO can push 1500MHz with ease.

    http://www.maximumpc.com/gtx-980-ti-vs-fury-x-overclocking-showdown/#page-2

    If it were me, I would wait for Pascal.
     
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  5. Riddhy916

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    Well I still plan on to holding onto my M18x r2 till pascal mobile mxm 3.0 b releases. Also depends on some financial situations and hope it doesn't die till then.
     
  6. ht_addict

    ht_addict Notebook Evangelist

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    I live for today and not tomorrow. There's always something new on the horizion
     
  7. GodlikeRU

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    AMD should release something mobile based on Fury Nano and they would directly compete with Nvidia in laptops. As now there's no such a competition.
     
  8. ht_addict

    ht_addict Notebook Evangelist

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    Wether it will work in the M18x is yet to be seen. They did announce new cards.


    E8950MXM
    The new AMD Embedded Radeon E8950MXM Module is an incredibly powerful discrete GPU that is well-suited for GPGPU compute and built for 4K applications with support for 4K decode, 4K encode, and up to six 4K displays. This product is ideal for high-end casino and arcade gaming machines, medical imaging devices and military/aerospace applications. The MXM module is a smaller form factor solution than standard commercial GPUs, making it ideal for systems with small space requirements, such as airplane cockpit controls and ultrasound machines. Key features include:

    • Type B Mobile PCI-Express Module (MXM)
    • 32 Compute Units; 3 TFLOPS single precision (Peak)
    • 8GB GDDR5 Memory; 256-bit wide
    • <95W Thermal Design Power
    • Support for 4K hardware-accelerated decode and encode
    • AMD Eyefinity technology for up to 6 display outputs
    • Support for DirectX® 12, OpenGL 4.5, and OpenCL� 2.0
     
  9. GodlikeRU

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    It's some embedded crap for industry as it says. Also "<95W Thermal Design Power" doesn't sound good :(
     
  10. Juang1985

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    I wouldn't mind switching to the red team if they release something powerful enough to compete with the 980ms and doesn't have any throttling issues. Looks promising :) is there an ETA for this?
     
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    octiceps Nimrod

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