Too much lags when I gaming on every moment loading texture, scene, etc...

First, sorrry for my english.

The symptom is like following

- temperature is totally fine. (repasted nicely with noctua)
- lag spike is happenning randomly when game is loading resource, even at changing weapon or punching specially on some new movement (just exactly same case with extreme low RAM system will have.)
- not any noticeble clue on resource monitor (CPU, HDD, Network, memory....didn't shaked at all, everthing was fine in my sight.)
- It seems disabling ssd cache is fixing this problem.
- ssd has 20% frag aleady.(datapart(D )

I doubt it is caused by ssd caching.
Every same games not having this symptoms with my old clevo gaming laptop(p170hm).

My alienware 18 is just 3 weeks old.
It was from almost first time when I recieved new one.
It's happening for every game ( All single player package game, not only online multi player game.)

It's 4700mq, 780m sli, 80gb mSATA ssd caching + 1.5TB RAID HDD model.
All the driver is updated as dell recommended version.
And anti malware, anti virus firewall is properly being used.
And not overclocked.

Any suggestion?
Thx in advance.

[EDIT] I just solved this problem by core unparking. no more lags with msata cache

 

Is this happening in a particular game? Or every game?

 

It's not only for particular game, just every 3d application has same problem in my alienware 18.

 

Maybe your CPU is running way too slow under load, as the factory BIOS settings for the CPU are really messed up. Have you noticed what your CPU clock speed is when this happens?

Use HWiNFO64 to output CPU information through RivaTuner Statistic Server (RTSS) and watch using on-screen display. You may be seeing lag from the CPU randomly dropping to like 800MHz or something super low like that. If that is the case, you are going to need to use XTU and/or ThrottleStop to correct the factory CPU power settings. Here is an example of the on-screen display that I am referring to.

 

The caching could be causing it, have you tried reinstalling the IRST and resetting the cache on the drive?

 

I've run into issues with the SSD caching before, especially if you're trying to run the caching on a seriously slow HDD (I think Dell uses some pretty low quality 5400rpm drives on these configs, I could be wrong though). If it was me, I would be going for a high quality SSD to run as my main disk as soon as possible.

 

Actually the 750GB HDD I received from Dell in this 18 are pretty decent 7500RPM drives. With caching, they appear to perform as well as SSD in benchmarks. I am running all of my Steam and Origin games on the 18 and my M18xR2 on SSD cached HDDs without any kind of lagging issues. I agree that a cached HDD, although far better than one that is not cached, is not a legitimate substitute for the OS drive. An SSD is the only thing I would recommend for the OS drive.

What Mr. Porras recommended about resetting the cache could help if that is the cause rather than the CPU clock speed plummeting to unreasonably low levels. After resetting it, be sure to choose "maximized" mode instead of the slower "Enhanced" mode (which is geared toward data protection instead of focusing entirely on performance).

 

It helped, but not 100% solved.
First 5 minute from cache accelation reset (after reinstall) was lag free, but after 5 minute, It seems lag spike starts again....

It could be from my fraged ssd? (it's aleady 20%...I even never used data part.)
I even turned off scheduled defragment for my ssd,

I think somehow my ssd is damaged by last 3 weeks my using without solving the problem.
in this case, I should defrag my ssd? msata ssd cache also going to be damaged by defragment or chkdsk?

Or I can format my ssd data partition just like formatting hdd?
I just want to delete all the cached data manually and start cleanly again..... (it seems both reinstalling IRST and reset cache accelation are not deleting cached data in ssd.)

any solution? Thanks in advance.

Thanks for your answer.

yeah, I use XTU.
I'm now with 4900mq and lowering core voltage to 1.175 and increasing processor current limit to 80000. (i didn't mentioned I changed to 4900mq from 4700mq just because 4700mq was also giving me a same lag)

just another question
If I'm still not getting stock cpu clock with above setting,
what should I do more in xtu and would you recommend some xtu setting for 4900mq?

it's almost staying 3.6ghz when gaming(even dual core only games are same)
I just want get stock cpu clock not the overclocking.

thank you

Thank you for answer.

yeah I just checked my hdd. it was WD company's one and 7200rpm. (this should be decent one?)

 

Try setting Processor Current Limit to either 95.000A or 112.000A and that may resolve it. 80.000A is too low for sure.

Do not use defrag for SSD. If you go into Rapid Storage Technology, you can disable caching and set the SSD to being available. You can format it and do a secure erase, then delete the partition and use Rapid Storage Technology to set up the cache again. It may not make any difference, but it won't hurt anything to try.

 

Same thing on my 2 month old AW 17 with 80GB mSATA + 750GB HDD. Starts to freeze up within 5 minutes in any game. Just running a lightweight game minimized in the background and the mouse cursor will jitter when moving across desktop.

Updated to newest firmware for the LITEONIT DMT-80M6M MSATA 80GB from Dell, Intel Rapid Storage updated, drive reset and set cache optimization to maximum. Mainboard bios and 780M graphics card drivers updated. Power settings set to high performance. No change. Then disconnected HDMI output to TV and a big improvement, now playable but lags still.

I come to think of first time HDMI cable was connected a Win 8 blue screen occured.. Could it be the graphics card not cooperating well or is it just the SSD mSATA cache that is to blame?

Specs:
4700MQ
780M
16GB
120Hz 3D screen (dedicated GPU only)

 

at least the lags not occurs while the cache accelation off for me.

still cannot find any solution.(did everything other user replied above)

I think it's happening for all alienware user who choosed ssd cache option.

just not noticing it because there is also many problem(fan table, cpu locked bios....etc) which is also making other type of lag.

Alienware is melting pot of various kind lags, stutters...

I miss my clevo p170hm....

 

just fixed this problem by core unparking. now lag is gone.

additionally, it helped to short some games loading time(i mean it's faster than cache accelated+parked cpu)

I don't know what's exactly conflicting between cpu unparking and msata cache,

but every lag is gone....

now I can enjoy my AW 18

 

Thanks for another nugget of info swapped mine over now.