m18x to get GTX 560m and 'other exciting GPU options' in June

Eric (who was on the leading edge of m18x announcements) has noted that new options are coming for the m18x, including the GTX 560m.

From fully reading the discussion on this post it looks like early June.

I am now thinking if holding out until June, its 3 weeks.

 

What lol? A GTX 560M is considered exciting...?

The 560M is merely a slightly overclocked 460M, both which are still much slower than the currently offered 6970M on the M18x.

So Dell's basically just adding in an option between 460M / 6970M and calling it "exciting"?

 

great news man GTX 560M

 

some people want nvidia and some people want ati. some people want the fastest. who knows.

 

With every electronic device you buy there's always that "waiting game" like a devils contract if you fall for that you would never be satisfied if you wait till june next set of Intel's chipsets are set to be out by july , then more graphic card options in a month or so from july , R2 version so on and so forth.Get what you can today trust me it would NEVER disappoint you

May the force be with you

 

However some folks are waiting for some faster Nvidia options, which are probably coming. Have to see. Next gen Intel chipsets are a lot longer ways away than June.

 

People don't generally post things that they find exciting wanting others to reply telling them theyre wrong for being excited about it sheesh, this is good news to some, and others could care less.

If some get their jollys from a slightly faster next gen gpu, then more power to em I'd say though that June isn't all that far I you want to wait and see. If you ordered now, chances are you won't be getting it till June anyways, so it'll be in your return period.

Who knows, a screen change could accompany the new GPU's, just depends on which route Dell decides to go with. And if you wanna keep waiting lol

 

Meh. Just an overclocked 460M

 

Is a 560m better than a 485m?

 

No, its just an overclocked GTX460M

It won't even be close

 

"Other" exciting GPU options...hmmm

GTX 580M, 6990M? now that would be exciting...

 

I'd be more excited about a 3d panel, but that's just me.

 

The NDA on 570M and 580M is up in June.

 

Probably a GTX 485m SLI config would be my guess. Nothing else would be exciting as everything else is far weaker than dual 6970 mobilities. . . . . SLI GTX 470m's would be interesting. Equal performance to the 6970 CFX but NVidia instead of ATI.

And I wouldn't get your hopes up on a GTX 580m. If it hasn't been announced by NVIDIA, then there's no way Alienware is going to be the company to introduce it . . . . also something would have been leaked by now in China.

 

Like this?

 

PWND lolol

 

Oh Please let there be a decent Nivida solution. Ati's always give me trouble.

 

id like to know where this proof is though of the revision in june?

 

SLI 470m is far weaker than 6970m Crossfire, what's equal to them is 485m SLI.

 

things is most ppl will take a performance hit to avoid the headache of ATI cards. we just need a better option than the severely outdated 460s.

 

GTx 470m SLI is about 5-10% weaker. GTX 485m SLI is about 10-15% stronger.

 

And yes something exactly like that. Knew it'd be from China hahaha. Very interesting. It does look nearly identical to the GTX 485m going off of those limited specs. That GTX 570m looks interesting though.

 

Not true, in some games 6970m crossfire are better, in others 485m SLI are better, and in the rest they're equal, so all in all they are level, whereas 470m SLI is 15 to 50% weaker than 6970m crossfire depending on the game.

 

Agreed. The main advantage of stronger Nvidia cards would be for CUDA or physx

 

A new AMD card is also coming out, do you think it is probably worth just returning this now, and buying it with the new GPU options in June.

 

All good things come to he who waits.

....but for how long of a damn wait?????

 

By that time you'll probably want to return that laptop aswell because of Kepler, which promisses a massive increase in power, and by that time amd will also have something new...

If you are not into physx or 3D then the current amd xfire set up in the m18x should last you a very long time. You won't notice any real gameplay difference (except in metro or something like that).

 

Nah, I understand your point but having new options literally 1-2 weeks after your receive the latest and greatest (on a brand newly released system) is a bit overkill, when you could have just ordered with them and had the latest for a good 6 months.

 

The 560M will be a bit better than 460M. New architecture and GF116 core which should be interesting.
If you look at the following chart you can see that it features the same shaders as GTX 460M, but it is clocked higher. Look at the GFlops. The same as 480M.

 

Eric has added info on the new GPU's as bearing the code names,

"2x AMD codename BlackComb XTX
2x NVIDIA codename N12E-GTX2"

Considering the 485M is N12E-GTX then the Nvidia option could be GTX580m

 

580M will be interesting. I found this from a chinese site. Says Q2 2011 release which fit what Alienware is planning

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1014866044

 

The 560 will probably be be offered instead of the 460 at the same price IMO. This just seems logical as the leap from the 460 to the 6970 in performance that at least keeping up with competition but offering a reasonable alternative without making it a waste to opt for a 460.

 

That makes sense, it'll update the line to the latest generation of GPU's

 

BlackComb XTX?? Now that's interesting!

 

Probably the layout will be:
560M 1 or 2x
Blackcomb 2x
580M 2x

Call that middle to end of June before you can get it in all locations, because there is usually a bit of lag, much like we were all waiting to buy the M18x after it was announced.

While I won't argue technically faster, if a 6970 is 10% slower than a 485M, I consider that roughly equal in my mind. 5-10% is really not something most folks will notice unless it's on the border of stuttering or something influencing CF or SLI performance in a bad way. I tend to think at that close a level, just referring to them as "approximately equal" makes sense. I'd take 10% weaker performance to avoid ATI gpu's myself, but ymmv.

 

I came across this link with the same info:

Alienware M18x - New Graphic Options Available soon! | Tech|Inferno

Will this mean a different expansion slot ? Or will I be able to upgrade myself ?

 

Was this document retrieved from Bin Laden's hard drive?

The GPU is turning into quite an arms race. I would take the plunge for a nice set of 485M SLI and order the M18. That would spank any games on the market and see me out for the next two years.

For me its squeezing longevity out of the rig , so timing is important.

 

Michael made that post. He's friends with Eric and got the confirmation from him directly. Anyway, blackcomb XTX, if real, could be the 1120 shader version that ichime has. Or it could be an OC'd 6970M depending on what nVidia does with 580M. I don't really care about slightly faster graphics options, what concerns me is if Dell pushes out RGB LED with these new graphics options. That will surely upset many people (myself included).

 

Well im glad i waited now. I was gunna settle for the 6970 xfire but i definately trust nvidia way more. aaaaaaaaa dual 580s :drool:

 

1120 shader 6990M rumor came from China a few months ago. Eurocom also claims to have had engineering samples of the chip, since March.

 

No kidding, especially after having payed this much.

 

Well we know the part is real since we have benchmarks for it already. The question is whether or not AMD will push out a mass produced version or go the cheaper route with an OC'd 6970M.

 

I don't see AMD pulling an Nvidia. If they decide to release, it will be the proper chip we expect.

I'm more concerned about the 6990M and 570M/580M prices, and whether I'll be able to sell my 6970M.

 

Agreed. Will you be able to return the current laptop, pay a little more Im guessing and get the "upgraded" m18x?

 

You could do that. Then what would happen when they unveil the XTX x2?
You may find yourself in a permanent order stasis.

 

Ya, def don't want that. Was mainly referring to the possibility of the RGBLED screen.

 

Yeah, the RGBLED screen is the only one that would concern me. But the better question is, how many 18.4" panels out there do support that? 18.4" isn't exactly common

Oh and the GPU stuff isn't a big deal to me. I'd be more peeved if 28nm GPUs were coming out in a few months, not minor refreshes on the same process

 

Yeah, wouldn't Dell have to essentially find someone to actually make an RGB for that big a screen versus just ordering what's already out there?

Seems like it would cost Dell a lot more $$$ to go that route, and knowing Dell, they don't do "a lot more $$$" unless you mean the consumer paying that.

On that end, I don't see an RGB happening. Hopefully I'm wrong, because if not, I don't know if I'll ever be able to upgrade from my R2.

 

I think they have already considered this, but to save face they are going to entertain everything that has a majority consensus to plz the consumers where public relations is concerned. I do however believer when it comes time to release the next generation, things will be better. And that's usually how I see the models with AlienWare.

 

I was excited bout mine but the thought of rgb led coming by June dampened it.