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    Project Freeze(M17/Ocz Whitebook)

    Discussion in 'Alienware Area-51/Aurora and Legacy Systems' started by dondadah88, May 14, 2009.

  1. The_Moo™

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    nope the fan is to big needs to be less then 6mm

    i wonder if you cut the cpu heat sink in half then put that over the north bridge

    like make it into 2 seperate heat sinks ....
     
  2. dondadah88

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    that is what i was thinking.
     
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    forgive the crudeness

    [​IMG]

    it will fit if you cut the heat sink but i am unsure how hot the NB run and how much heat it puts out


    i posted the mini heat sink a page back :p
     
  4. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Lol. the guy on the overclocking forum had some good results. he was watercooled but the NB wasn't.
     
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    hummm i kinda think that heat sink will work ... the CPU is heating up the NB because its attached .. just not sure the mini heat sink will work fully

    the NB would then blow hot air every where .....

    that mini heat sink WILL fit where the Xfire controller is because my 50 x 50 x10 will fit
     
  6. dondadah88

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    well that is why we would make more holes for the NB. but the problem is cutting it and the liquid that is in the heatsink.
     
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    i actually wanted to cut off the gpu metal for the memory sinks and place ram sinks there but i want an extra one just in case that fails.
     
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    hummmm possible that would work better since the core of the GPU is whats heat up the most .....

    but with all that passive heat in there it would get hot. If you put all those passive coolers then ran a notebook cooler you would be bawlin
     
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    please someone clarifies me. It's REALLY an heat issue that causes shuttering???? is it confirmed? if we cool that region the shuttering is going to disappear? have anyone tried a stress test with a open notebook and a 120mm fan blowing to that region to see if the shuttering disappears?
     
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    well every one who has re applied past and the pads where they should be does nto stutter any more.... :)

    4 people have tried and 4 do not stutter any more
     
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    well but how pads and paste are going to resolve the shuttering issue? it doesn't give great improvements in temperatures... maybe the original pads were crappy and badly applied? I can't believe that only -5ºC difference solved the shuttering issue... it must be something more then that...
     
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    its the difference between life or death :p
     
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    this is what i was talking abot in the quad problem thread this is what im going to do this weekend
     

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    read through every thing Z and see what you think

    what do you think about the small heat sink ?

    cut the CPU heat sink and seperate the NB and CPU
     
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    you can NOT cut the heatpipes though placing anything on top of the pipes imo will not do anything. the issue is the nb soaking up the cpu heat

    and here is the way i modded my bottom panel sorry for the crude pics.. i dont have a camera right now
     

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    So the picture Im getting from this is that the northbridge isn't receiving proper cooling because the CPU is heating the coolant in the pipes too rapidly and sending it back up to the fans. If the machine is running hot enough the NB would essentially be on passive cooling.

    If that's the case then I'd think about adding surface area to the CPU and upper pipes so that coolant gasses are getting cooled faster than the CPU can boil them.
     
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    very interesting. i will have to look at my notebook to see what else can be done.
     
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    i know there is a liquid in there when you did cut you would have to seal it

    and putting a fan on the cooler would work my 50 x 50 x 10 fan droped temps by 10 c
     
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    Hi all,
    Thanks for the great work, I'v followed the whole quad issues thread and this one also. I have an M17 9300,and I too get the stutters sometimes, although not too much, when I do get it I unplug the power cable and put it back in which clears it up for that session as was mentioned in the quad thread.

    Why would that work as a temp fix if the lasting solution is to copper mod or maybe even just reapply better paste? I ask because I'm not too sure about my ability to do this without damaging the system :eek: , also any chance of AW doing something about this now you may have the cause and solution?

    Thanks for reading my 1st post!
     
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    congratz and welcome to the forums ... and Arima / Flextronics will be working on this

    also Guys is it just me or is the fan in the CPU heat sink HALF of the one in the GPU .... i mean it does not put out alot of air at all ....

    im sure you can see where i am going with this :D
     
  22. dondadah88

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    welcome to the forums i love people who put thoughtful in their first post. ok this is the thing we are coming up with ways to make our computer much cooler. thus the name project freeze was created. we are making mods not only that will cool your system but mods that will be on different levels. and you decide what is best. some mods can be as easy as sticking some more copper to the gpu hinksink and some will be as challenging as water cooling your system and still keep it portable.

    remember to do at your own risk. some of mods can be easily removed and put back to send your system back for repair and some mods be noticeable. so feel free to ask and type your input in any and everything.

    welcome to nbr.
     
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    don what do you think about the gpu fan being put into the cpu heat sink ? :p
     
  24. dondadah88

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    very interesting. but even if it were to fit. the gpu's will suffer the worse. i posted eariler if we can find fans that will fit at hhigher speeds and use the same or less volts, but it was never truly searched out. we can posibilly try this for testing purposes but also it is not a pernament fix if it works. i am at work right now so i don't have my notebook with me. can you post or take a picture of the two fans and we can go from there.
     
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    no we need to get a new fan lol if we put the cpu fan in the gpu heat sink our cards would fry ......

    we need to see if Z can get them i can't mod until Z gets back to me about the bottom :p freakin AW
     
  26. HaloGod2007

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    No way it will fit
     
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    Moo what are u doing with ur bottom?
     
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    cutting vents for CPU and possibly mount a mini fan ... my CPU doesn't need cooling though ..... the vents will be dont for sure gotta figure out the fan part on my own ... and the passive coolers as well :p and copper mod

    so here the Moo's list

    CPU vent
    mini fan
    copper mod
    passive heat sinks
    ram sinks
     
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    For the vents I drilled one sixteenth inch holes in a circle where the cpu fan is...I drilled a bunch then smooth them out
     
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    moo i got the part number finally and i fowarded it to the sales dept ill have an answer as soon as i can for you.
     
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    i did that and then did the one large hole and it made a 3-4deg difference over the small holes..
     
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    i have a mixture of both. lol. i should do what zfactor did. i just have to buy the mesh for it. i have a car grill but the holes on it is very big.
     
  33. zfactor

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    i used the stainless mesh window screen i got from home depot and sprayed it very lightly with flat black paint. then use a few very tiny dabs of ca glue to hold it down from the inside works awesome
     
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    how big is the hole zfactor...and is it right in the center of the cpu fan? pics?
     
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    sucks but my wife lost my brand new camer at bush gardens last week so i am camera less right now. i did 2 2" holes one for each fan and centered them under each fan. you probably could go smaller but that was the hole saw with fine teeth i has sitting here at the time id say even 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 would be fine also.. as long as the hole is the size of the actual opening in the fan itself you should be fine
     
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    yeah i would be mad if that happened to me.
     
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    ok i re applied some thermal paste to the cpu and cut the pad some but here is what it says under the fan
    Deilphi
    sample (0181)
    h4214f05hp
    3fv4shx
    5VDC 0.44A
    made in china
    h346d5g
    a001001
     
  38. zfactor

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    seriously i would not worry about the fan.. it seems fine i dropped a total of almost 10deg with the copper on the nb and the air holes for the fans its running great
     
  39. dondadah88

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    ok i haven't done either but those sound solid and easy to do.

    what do you think about the axman's job on the gpu's? i think if a cooler where to put there it will provide better results. but otherwise what do you think.
     
  40. HaloGod2007

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    yea im thinking of getting the ram spreaders and the heatsinks for the gpu...but i wonder if those really help the gpu or not
     
  41. dondadah88

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    well axman said that it made his gpu temps go down 7c but he also had a cooler and i don't know if that was with or without the cooler.
     
  42. zfactor

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    hard to say i dont really think it would make more than a deg or so myself but worth a shot i guess..imo the cooler is what made the biggest difference. i can try it on sunday i have a bunch of ramsinks sitting here ill cut them down tomm ill let you know exactly how much it drops and i have spare heatsinks coming from ocz so i can always drop a new one in
     
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    ok great. we are slowly progressing but we are getting somewhere. we have ideas just need to organize them.
     
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    im going to also try to get a few spare bottoms for those that want to mod them. i think ill get maybe 5 or 6 in case anyone needs them ill sell them at whatever i pay for them plus shipping..
     
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    you already know i'm in. :)
     
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    yeah gonna order them up monday
     
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    yeah ill def take one too
     
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    i may try to get more. i have 5 people already that want them lol.. i think ill see if they will sell me 10 or more. parts are limited from what i was told right now because they want to cover any warr issues but ill see for sure what i can do
     
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    that sucks ASI needs to get goin. How much longer on them >
     
  50. dondadah88

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    yeah we haven't heard nothing from them. i hope and pray that they are going to be a better company then ocz.
     
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